No animals on the planet has a fixed sleep pattern. Animals sleep when they want. Healthy sleeping pattern for humans is identical - sleeping and napping whenever you feel like sleeping. Fixed sleeping hours exist solely to cope with wage slavery and living around the clock.
>>76609447>here is my shit opinionno one cares about your half-baked thoughts
Circadian rhytm is real.Humans can't sleep on demand. Humans have much more brainpower and needs a reset daily to function.Animals are stupid, they don't need the reset as much and are designed to sleep whenever possible to survive.
>>76609447>Fixed sleeping hours exist solely to cope with wage slaverythat's the world we live in, so what's your point
>>76609459Humans have more powerful brains and therefore need...less sleep? Very logical
>>76609467>Humans have more powerful brainsIn your case, no
Animals aren't known to be healthy
>>76609447Noooooooooooooo you must follow a cult like sleeping pattern to support the 9-5 work slaverace control paradigm just see these studies: nvi.giv/gooberschnitzelsleep
>>76609511Yeah because staying up all night is good for youLmaoThe work slaverace paradigm is built around our sleepschedule, not the other way around
TRVKEwhen you look at tribal peoples there is almost NEVER a point in time where the whole tribe is asleep. People have extremely varied sleeping times. As this was evolutionarily advantageous for the tribe. A sleep schedule is a product of industrialized society and is one of the things that makes civilization so oppressive
>>76609516we are neet gods, we have all the freetime in the world to pursue REAL passions instead of wasting our lives like wagies. For me, it's anime, vidya, and online racism
Massive cringe
>natural = goodSays the guy sitting in his airconditioned room, vaccinated and doctored on to max health since his birth, living in a hyper hygienic and clean society, having a good full sleep every night and waking up rested every morning
>>76609447whosagoodboywhosagoodboywhosagoodboywhosagoodboywhosagoodboywhosagoodboy
>>76609569you have to go back. 4chan is a primitivist community
>>76609569i'm into trump, I don't beliee in vaccinations and hygiene
>>76609569>airconditioned room Never had one I live in a cold country>vaccinated I have like two inoculations that were done to me against my will when I was a child>doctored on What does it even mean>hyper hygienic and cleanThis isn't a good thing, most people in first world societies have compromised immune systems cause we sanitize everything>good sleep every night I dont, my sleeping time is very erratic I just dont beat myself over it
>>76609447The goal is to become better than an animal, anon.
>>76609584>what does this meanIt means the healthcare system was at work to keep you away from becoming an infant mortality statisticPart of it is the inoculation that you're against, good thing they didn't listen to retard opinions and just gave them to you
>>76609614i'm against all authorities and science,except if the authority is a strong male authoritarian leader with fascist leanings. Simple as.
>>76609516no, isn't. i've never met a single 9-5 worker who was happy with the impact job has on sleep. not one. it's completely unnatural the entire workplace hierarchy is the most illogical cuck simulator one could possibly create i say this as a person who had never been unemployed in their entire life
>>76609652So? Has nothing to with your sleep scheduleWhen I was a neet I would go to sleep at 12 and wake up at 8Because it feels good to do itJust because someone is a mess from 9-5 lifestyle doesn't mean its the fault of the sleep schedule and its much more likely the fault of the shitty job lifestyle
>>76609467retard
>>76609478topkek
>>76609667you claimed that work is geared around our sleep schedule and it isn't. humans are not best suited for machine like routines. work robs us of spontaneous events and shoehorning them in actually makes things worse not better. humans are not meant to serve a hierarchy and we should destroy the powers keeping us collectively enslaved. you're lucky i'm apolitical or i would form a lynch mob against the perpetrators of the human race
>>76609447My dog sleeps around 9pm, gets up around 23:30 for his night time walk, then goes back to sleep until 9am.Every day.
>>76609447>No animals on the planet has a fixed sleep patternIf thats the case then why do most animals sleep when the sun goes down? Why doesn't everyone sleep during the day and be active at night?
>>76609698Sleeping at night is the most natural way for us to sleepThis is why the workday is scheduled around that, if you have a problem with society that's entirely different
>>76609726I too would shift to a very vague non specific argument upon realizing I'm completely wrong and utterly retarded
>>76609722>why do most animals sleep when the sun goes down?>While most birds are active during the day, many insects and around 70 percent of mammals are nocturnal
>>76609731My argument is still the same, work is set around our sleep scheduleRetard, you just dont have a counterpoint because you can only speak in schizo conspiracy terms
>>76609741>work is set around our sleep scheduleRetardSo what's it like to not actually have to do anything
>>76609752Can you elaborate on your schizobabble?
>>76609757your conclusion can only be reached by a total loser or a trust fund babby simple as
>>76609763Well I'm not, I work 9-5 cause I run my own business and I set those terms cause they are the best time to conduct said businessI was also a neet before, studentI've had my working class experience too worked daytime and nightshift Daytime workhours were are the way they are because being awake during the day is the natural standard for humans
>>76609777>I run my own businessJust like I figured. You don't actually have to be subjected to the shitcockery of the workplace hierarchy. You're not accountable to anyone. Your opinion is literally worthless.
>>76609792Okay, but even then it has nothing to do with sleepscheduleIf your job sucks because society is shit then its not the fault of working during the daytime
>>76609796yes it is actually the entire problem is the fixed and authoritarian nature of work. natural human sleep is none of these and is more akin to slavery than anything else
This is probably one of the dumbest and most pointless discussions on the board right now.Whenever a dude comes up and says>Why do humans do X when animals do Y!?I immediately check out, cause it's not even worth my time and I am a NEET who browses TikTok 8 hours a day.
>>76609849how do u spend that much time on tiktok? its novelty wears off pretty fast
>>76609447In nature there is no artificial light, when the sun goes down it's pitch black. You don't use artificial light and stay up past sun set, right?
>>76609447>No animals on the planet has a fixed sleep pattern.Pretty much every animal on the planet has a fixed sleep pattern. They bed down before sunset and wake up before sunset. Nocturnal animals do the opposite.
>>76610718>wake up before [sunrise]
>>76609478jej
>>76609447What about the cock ?
>>76609447>Animals sleep when they wantAnimals don't consume stimualnts everyday, don't stare into a screen 14 hours a day and don't have artificial lights.
>>76609447Retard, most animals on the planet are light sleepers and can get by having multiple sleep sessions throughout the day. That doesn't apply to us, almost al other primates, and a bunch of other mammals, we need one long uninterrupted sleep sesh.
Animals have sleep patterns as best as they can maintain, they just operate on different schedules than you.
>>76609447Sharks never sleep!
>>76609447>Fixed sleeping hours exist solely to cope with wage slavery and living around the clock.All self improvement exists only for becoming a better cog in the machine.
>>76609544This study where they put monitoring smart watches on people from 3 different tribes seems to say otherwise - if I remember the details correctly, pretty much all the tribe members slept at a similar time, from a variable amount of time after sunset (depending on night length) to right before sunrise when the night temperature hit its low point >Natural Sleep and Its Seasonal Variations in Three Pre-industrial Societieshttps://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(15)01157-4BBC article on the study:https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-34544394.amp
>>76611572big if true
>>76609447>The human brain is highly resource-intensive, using roughly 20% of the body's resting energy, despite being only 2% of body mass, a far greater metabolic cost than in other primates. This is due to its high number of neurons, not extraordinary density, and this high energy demand may be offset by the energy conservation provided by non-REM sleep.
>>76611938Can't believe it took 52 posts to refute OP with basic scientific facts/fit/ braincels on full display yet again
>>76609447>my pet dog who isn't in an environment anything similar to the wild has naps during the day so sleep science is all wrong
>>76609447For some people their circadian rhythm has them locked being nocturnal or in some cases waking up super early. DSPD/DSPS is Delayed Sleep Phase Disorder/Syndrome and has people staying up and sleeping later sometimes to the point of being nocturnal. ASPD/ASPS is Advanced Sleep Phase Disorder/Syndrome where people sleep and wake earlier. Some people also sleep multiple times a day which is called Biphasic sleep and others have a non 24 hour circadian rhythm and internal clock so their sleep and wake time shifts and loops around the clock. This is well documented and is now considered a disorder but in other cultures or in past history was normal and is still beneficial in some cases such as defending from dangers, keeping fire lit, emergency night shift workers or people doing important work overnight. Even napping or sleeping throughout the day is a way some sleep.
>>76609447Do sleep restriction for a week with a 5.5 hour window and tell me how it goes retard.
>>76609447>muh natureI am man. I am above nature. God Himself gave man dominion over nature, because man is not natural, he is divine.
>>76609447my dog sleeps from 9 to 7 like clock work
We live in a society
>>76609459>Circadian rhytm is real.Not in the way you think.
>>76615068>I am...le above nature!*has microplastics in his testicles*
