Discuss the sport of weightlifting, its athletes, competitions and general training. I changed the title to /owg/ since someone asked last thread. Still need the old pastebin but I'll throw this up whenever it falls off the catalog. If you have any suggestions for the OP of each thread and what I should stick on the resources section post it in the thread and I'll add it next time.Resources: https://www.youtube.com/@CatalystAthleticshttps://www.youtube.com/@clarence0https://www.youtube.com/@gsincraianhttps://www.youtube.com/@torokhtiyhttps://www.youtube.com/@sikastrengthhttps://www.youtube.com/@zacktelanderhttps://www.youtube.com/@PZPCPL
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>>76620487owg is dead, just let it go bro...
Anyone competing this year? I'm doing AO Finals / Masters Worlds in December with my team
>>76620487no ZT pls
Is 300kg clean and jerk possible ?
at least reuse the old /owg/ pasta:/owg/ - Olympic Weightlifting GeneralA thread for the discussion of the sport of weightlifting and all things related. Keep the insults and shitposting to a minimum.>If you are new to weightlifting please read these first and check the other sources they link to before asking questions:http://www.chinfl.blogspot co.uk/2013/07/how-into-weightlifting.htmlhttp://www.reddit.com/r/weightlifting/wiki/faqhttps://www.dropbox.com/sh/mjgz5nmcikhhvnu/28iq3URWUW>helpful blog on some technique quirks:yashathoughts.com>The information that you are looking for is probably in the above links.That includes routines, shoes, information on the lifts, etc. Check out the pastebins for literature or the reddit faq for general information.Included in this youtube playlist are videos related to weightlifting which you may find useful or insightful:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl3WCm2GfvLxvH877oJ1xEA/playlistsCommisar's notes on the Meme Method>http://pastebin.com/u0jiY8sM
>>76622247If you read the op you would’ve seen I asked for the thread pasta because I didn’t have it. Thanks anyway, I’ll save this to use for next time.
>>76621766I planned on doing my state championships but Im a brokey now so maybe next year.
>>76622593Competing used to be free but since my europoorean shithole is crumbling and free money is getting cut the fed has us paying 100€ or so for a comp
>>76622190No.
>>76622788>100 euroswtf, thats more than a HCOL area in burgerland. I can compete for 85$. Local meets are cheaper too, most recent one was 40$.
>>76622247>https://www.dropbox.com/sh/mjgz5nmcikhhvnu/28iq3URWUWLink is dead
>>76621766Maybe next year but im a thirdie and i'm positive they dont let randos in without a fat bribe. I took up on it like 4 months ago at 20 anyways, 90kg C&J at 90kg BW (i'll be cutting soon tho)
>>76622247Yashathoughts appears to be dead as well. I may try to get it back through internet archive.
>>76622593Competing is really fun definitely worth itI've been doing about 4 meets a year for the past 4-5 years and it's always a good time with a team
Is 30s too late to get into this
>>76620487>/owg/You can just say /wlg/>>76621875Knower
>>76623737DependsDo you have an athletic background? Do you expect to be good?
>>76623737No, just too late to be elite. You can still lift some big weights.>>76623745I made it /owg/ on request from last thread from another anon
Bump.RIP to the heaviest C&J that never was.
>>76623765>>76623746What's the cutoff ? 14 ? 20 ?
>>76625273Probably mid teens. There's really nothing stopping you from winning masters as you get older though. Ignore this advice if you already have a giant high bar back squat and conventional deadlift relative to your weight, you might actually get pretty good still. Also to be completely frank, unless you're roiding you're not winning any world championship or placing in the olympics.
>>76625273To actually be elite? Usually teens although I know a girl who started WL at 25 and made the world team last year with a few national championship wins along the way. Insane athletic background though, hitting a 200 back squat as a non super in your first year of WL is crazy for anyone let alone a woman That said it is overwhelmingly likely that no matter when you started you would not have been an elite athlete. That's just how sports work. Genetics are everything and the odds are very good that you don't have them. That's fine though - it's still a really fun sport, especially with a team, but temper your expectations. Snatching 100kg is further than most get.
>>76626471>>76626448What if i have a decent backsquat at 20 (went to 200kg @90kg bw before before injury then deloading) but suck at ass at pressing movements
>>76626596Asking about it means it won't happen, sorry. You'd be doing more than thinking.
>>76626596That was over a decade ago in your case. You'll get stronger much much faster but don't expect to be breaking records.
>>76626693I'm not that anon, i'm actually 20.
>>76626805Oh, 200kg at 20? Yeah you can probably get somewhere if you really want it. Also, weightlifting isn't actually about pressing movements. There's guys with huge jerks that have poverty OHPs. Its overwhelmingly leg drive with upper body strength helping at lockout. Pressing the bar out is actually grounds for not counting a lift.
>>76626596You can probably do "well" (nationals, although that depends a lot on the country) but pretty unlikely to be elite simply because most elite weightlifters were well in excess of that result at an earlier age while also having experience in the competition lifts. With a 200 back squat 120/150 is doable but entirely dependent on technical progression. Get a coach and find out.
What do you guys have on the menu for training this week? I had back squat 7x3 yesterday along with snatch pulls, snatch grip push press, and heavy one arm rows. Tomorrow is both full lifts + clean pulls and Friday is front squat triples and some other stuff
>>76622922Says who ?
>>76629155I follow a very retarded routine that I will never talk about in view of its retardation.
>>76629566Please tell me you aren't trying to program for yourself
>>76629624Yes and no.It's a program I've slightly modified when it comes to accessories, but the core of it and the progression is the same.
>>76629630It can't be that bad right
>>76629651it could be worse
Why you guys dont work chest
>>76630227Lots of weightlifters bench but I usually just do db bench for shoulder health vs trying to gain mass / build a big bench
>>76630227I got into weightlifting after having always trained like a powerlifter. Bench had always been my best lift, and the thing about overhead mobility taking a toll is true. So I just dip sometimes.
What strength programming would you have a novice (and intermediate) do to get as strong as possible in the areas which matter most if they can't perform any of the competition lifts just yet?
>>76631915Squats while learning power jerk, goblet squat to overhead squat with a PVC pipe. Push press > OHP
>>76631915I would test their mobility first because most people either struggle mentally with deep squats and the front squat position/overhead squat or simply cant due to tighteness or morphology At least 2 months of empty bar practice for awkward positions
>>76631974>>76631984What's a good weekly structure to follow for months to develop the qualities?
>>76632046I would be deceiving you if i gave you any advice over a text image board or internet medium. I'm naturally flexible and did kickboxing before so i never struggled with those positions. I helped a friend with mobility though but it was basic bitch overloading stretching. Just copy whatever drills national teams (eg bulgaria china iran etc) do, especially younger teams, you wont need more than that probably
>>76632067I'll try pausing for a few minutes in my warmups and see what I get from that, what about for the actual strength work? Just something like a 5x5 a few times per week?
>>76631915TM for squats, presses, rows, chinups, pulls from the ground, back extensions
>>76632114Read up on periodization work. Sika Strength is $25/month and they offer some good programs. Their channel is a really extesnive resource if you want to program for yourself, but that's really not advisable when you're starting out. If you're starting out, get a coach for a few sessions to focus on perfecting form. I assure you, it's a common mistake to try to teach yourself the movements before you get a coach. I tried to for 6 months and progressed, and my coach had to correct a lot of bad form.
>>76633424Go away Eoin
>>76633424Thoughts on Gabriel Sincraian's 1-1 coaching?
>>76634339Go find a gym with an actual coach. Preferably one that has absolutely nothing to do with crossfit
obligatory post: oly lifting is a massive waste of time for 99% of you. learn the power clean and move on.
>>76634375I tried two gyms with actual coaches and I thought that the coaching was horrible and lazy
>>76636404What about them was lazy?
>>76636543nta but same as martial art gyms, coaches dont want to bother with someone they didn't coach since childhood or with a guy they "dont see any potential" for so they neglect everyone but their protégés and give them meme exercises, but in that lump of of "everyone" there's always 1-2 people who are actually their to learn and want it even more than the protégé but never get a chance
>>76621766I'd like to do at least one competition before nationals>>76622247we can just forget my dumbass pastebin link
>>76623737It's not. If you dont have a coach in your area hit me up i'll help you learn the lifts initially for freeOffer actually stands for anyone that finds me through OWG or 4chan just hit me up on instagram if you want to learn the lifts
>>76626968You could potentially be very good>>76629155I have some low hang snatches, pause clean and pause jerk and front squats tomorrow. Then I get to do power jerks and push press on saturday with some accessories.
>>76631915I think it depends on your goals. General strength is a goal of course. It's like asking whats the best way to build a car. As long as it has everything important it doesnt matter. I always recommend something similar to starting strength to beginners and I have sets of programs for people who have finished my beginner program and intermediates etc.
>>76636404Ive had a similar experience with coaches i've had
Training dumphttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/AqNwY-lk-04https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fX7zgBbilvIhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/KRADH0Pz8Q4https://www.youtube.com/shorts/AiwaLExi_Tchttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/ao-nRpVZWB0Going to attempt 200kg power jerk very soon probably next week
>>76636750>>76636685This was my experience at my first gym but very much not at my second, even though the head coach at the second gym was a sr international coach he would still work with everyone from first time youth lifters to creaky old masters like me
>>76634487You talk like a fag and your shit’s all retarded
bumping before bed
>>76634339Find an in person coach solely for learning technique. Being critiqued via poorly shot videos sent over text makes things significantly slower and more difficult.
>>76638662Another reason is to train around better lifters than you. You can learn a lot just from the environment
>>76636745Thanks, how would what you prescribe differ from starting strength? More volume in other areas? Accessories?
>>76640113Really what I give people is more like SL but one of the squatting days is front squats and I include Snatching on day 1, cleaning on day 2 and jerking on day 3. I also have some push pressing in the program.
how to improve ankle mobility when my limitation is in the front
>>76642032THERE ARE MANY MANY VIDEOS OUT ON THIS,YOUTUBE AND BE CONSISTENT WITH STRETCHING
>>76642032Unironically get shoes with a bigger heel. If Lu did it, may as well consider it yourself
>>76642032Stretch them but also massage the front of the shin. Anterior, posterior, all over. Dig in it
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nvd25Ipcil8https://www.youtube.com/shorts/DNyQBnmIKoshttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/KADQU7884h0Low hang snatches at 120 and pause clean and pause jerk at 170
>>76636132Why did he waste so much time as a SHW, bros? Lost that second gold medal.
>>76642476well I'm using roms, is the added height of the antas really that good?
>been power snatching everything because cant get low enough>decide to try a very externally rotated narrow style like klokov>works better, but not quite there>try full on frog snatch with my heels touching last night>smash it, finally get a picture perfect snatch in an ATG squat>coach tells me it looked excellentThink I'm just gonna keep doing it, the width I spread my feet on the catch is literally perfect. Can't go as heavy as my power snatch yet but it's a massive improvement.
>not one lift postedLMAO
>>76644393Now that you have an 80kg snatch you know youve got the same technique you'll have forever
>>76645104At 70kg not 80kg for power snatch. Getting into full snatch for that is a WIP
You will never be a weightlifter. You have no technique, you have no strength, you have no speed. You are a DYEL twisted by ATG videos and dollar store chalk inhalation into a crude mockery of Lü’s squat jerk perfection.All the “validation” you get from the jury at your local meet is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back gym goers mock you. Your online coach is disgusted and ashamed of you, the judges laugh at your small legs and wonky snatches after you've left the platform.Weightlifters are utterly repulsed by you. Decades of technique drilling and heavy squats have allowed weigtlifters to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even crossfitters who “pass” look uncanny and unnatural to a weightlifter. Your horrible clean contact is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get into a state meet after years of training, the judges will promptly red light all your disgusting attempts at a jerk when they see your slow dip, forward lean and repulsive pressout.You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel your meniscus grinding down like pepper, ready to explode your knees under the unbearable (80kg) weight of your snatch PR.Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll sell your Antas, bin your sleeves, put your Eleiko belt around your neck, and plunge into the cold abyss. Your parents will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to buy you a ticket for Weightlifting House's streams and prohibitively expensive online coaching sessions. They’ll bury without the participation medals you won at your local meets, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a DYEL is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a skeleton that is unmistakably low density.This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.
>>76646404kek 10/10
>>76646450first day?
>>76646458>t. seething olycel
>>76646404it's okay
