how the hell do natty people manage their fatigue when doing PPL?
What do you mean? Its different lifts on different days LMAO
>>76621052Don't lift wieghts too much. Simple as.
dont go to failure every set
>>76621058it's still six 1 hour sessions every week, PPL usually has a ton of volume to make sure everything is hit twice. it's a program that doesn't sacrifice anything at least the ones I've seen
>>76621240>PPL usually has a ton of volume to make sure everything is hit twice.Not always. I do PPL 6x/week. I prefer it to any other program because daily consistency is my jam (I actually will keep going a lot of the times without a break day until one is forced upon me; for example I'm on day 9 PPL and today is a rest day because I've got plans). If your volume is too much to even do 6 days/week, its not a good program.
>>76621052Its more about what you do outside of the gymGet as much sleep as you can and try to stay relaxed throughout the day. Breathing exercises like 478 help to get into your parasympathetic nervous system
I didn't last long on it. Too much wear on my joints.
>>76621052Maybe if you're doing a bodybuilding PPL, fatigue on powershitting/weightlifting solely focused on strength and compounds is very manageable with PPLYou have like 4 days at most and sometimes i throw in an arm day if my legs or back are still sore when the week has already rotated
>>76621052stop bein a bitch
>>76621240just take more days off
>>76622702>>76622719the duality of mani was trying to do 90min session PPL, 6 days a week, started strong but only got about 6 months in before i had to start adding a lot more rest days, then started to get less consistent in frequency from fatigue (being a bitch ass nigga)i liked it and made a lot of progress, but had to switch up to an upper/lower that has only about 45min to 1hr sessions, 4 days a week plus an arm isolation day for funkeeps all the same exercises from my PPL so I can stay consistent that way, and so far has been easier to stick tohope I can keep making progress this way, PPL was pretty legit
Simple, just skip legs
>>76621052I eat and sleep
>>76622676>I didn't last long on it. Too much wear on my jointssupps like glucosamine+chondroitin+msm help with that.
>>76621240Each workout can literally be like 12 sets and take under 30 minutes where did you get the 1 hour minimum from?
>>76623319>>76623374Based. This is the meta
>>76621052the same guys who run PPL full time are the same nobody normies you barely remember from the office. They have no career or social aspirations beyond the bare minimum. Sometimes they're students or just straight up NEETsConsequently they have no struggles with recovery, their lives are go to work, go to gym, prep for gym, rinse and repeat. For everyone else who actually contributes to society, PPL is too much. >>76622696 makes a good point that powerlifting PPL (and powerlifting programs in general) are easier to recover from. But in general PPL is not a good program unless you can go tryhard on performance and recovery for weeks at a time.
>>766210523 days hard, 3 days less hard but still stimulating.
>>76621052I'm a NEET so I go gym in the morning and take naps in the afternoon, lol. It is physically exhausting, but I also focus on my nutrition and sleep to recover. 6 days a week, by the way.
>>76623591Why do you believe 1 hour a day every three days out of four is a big investment? Are you working 16 hour shifts at the pizza shop?
>>76623612>1 hour a day every three days out of foursuch a cope way of framing PPL. you're lifting 4/5 days of the work week, that's a relevant time frame.Also it's NEVER 1 hour a day. 15 minutes to get ready, 30 minutes to go/return from the gym, 15 minutes to get cleaned up, 30 minutes to make a decent macro-friendly meal (or waste a weekend afternoon just to eat 5-day old meal prep slop), etc. Minutes make hours.I can guarantee you spend more than an hour per day on gym-related activities. When you work a serious job, there's an expectation you work off the clock to improve your skills and do some research. The mental and physical energy is just not there for PPL nearly every day. No Raj your IT/sales/retail wagie job doesn't count as serious. I'm talking about doctors, lawyers, real engineers, etc.
>>76623663>whines about meal prep>calls me an IndianStay mad faglord
>>76621052Do an asynchronous split, PPL-off and repeat. That's completely fine, anyone who is autistic about it having to be twice a week can go suck a dick
>>76623679so you are brown
>>76623695I'm more Anglo than the King of England and as white as they come, but that has nothing to do with your whinging goal post moving. You're bitchmade, and that's nobody's problem but yours, no matter how much you shitpost on a Mongolian throat singing support group.
>>76623663wtf is taking you 15 minutes to get ready for the gym. You putting on your make-up or something?
>>76621052They don't work very hard. Getting 20 sets a group per week isn't a big deal when it's all 2-3 rir. To put that in perspective that's 8-12 to-failure sets, half of which is accessory stuff. (if you believe the effect reps model) which I think lines up with the most amount of work people can usually sustain without injury, burnout or deloading
>>76624087>Getting 20 sets a group per week isn't a big dealIt sure as hell is, unless you want your sessions to take 90 minutes.
>>7662413890 minutes is fine i do PPLPP cause fuck double legs and usually its 75-90minutes per session
Did you PPL fags ITT start out with PPL or did you start with SS?I tried PPL 4 day split with minimal leg work and didn't make any decent progress so switched to SS with a few accessories 7 weeks in btw
>>76624396>I tried PPL 4 dayppl is 6 daysi started it 2 weeks into gym because full body sucks. progress fine many months later. the only drawback is going to the gym every day IF that's a problem. you can adjust volume to suit recovery needs.
>>76621052I skip legs and just ride a bike instead.
>>76621052eat more
>>76624520Riding bicycle is cardio, not strength training.
You know if you’re lifting more days per week you can do fewer lifts per day right? The fatigue is exactly the same. PPL is just what you do if you like going to the gym more often.
>>76624867Have you seen the legs of a mountain biker
>>76624867>he doesn't know you can increase the resistance
>>76621052I'm doing 7x/week upper lower. It's not that bad, I've just had to learn to not go to failure on every exercise every workout otherwise I'm just totally drained 24/7.
>>76625024What's the fucking point? Other than to waste precious oxygen in the gym
>>76625024why do you do this? im currently doing 5 day upper lower and i hit pretty much everything twice, what do you need those 2 extra days for?
>>76624374I dunno, man, I do PPLUL, and only my upper day is 90 mins, and that's because I do isolations to get that volume up. The other days, I got compound lifts that drain me pretty quickly, so it's 70 mins tops
>>76621052By getting a desk job
>>76621052PPL is garbage if you don't do it for 6 days a week. If that's too much either do some kind of A/B workout twice a week (so 4 days) (could be upper/lower or torso/limbs or some kind of hybrid), or a full body 3 days.
>>76625279>PPL is garbagefull stop
>>76624066I have to wear business professional attire so yeah it takes some time to hang everything up correctly, wipe my face, etc. But let's say it takes 5 minutes...you're still spending a good chunk of time just getting ready to lift. unless you have a god tier home gym or something
>>76621052Upper/lower >>>>
Monday push>06:30. I am starting my first set at this time>07:30. I’m finished, off to workTuesday:>Up at 07:45 to work from home>walk in the evening (3 miles)Wednesday pull:>Same times and routine as MondayThursday:>Same times and routine as TuesdayFriday legs:>Same as Monday/wednesdaySaturday and Sunday:>Absolutely nothing Gyms dead when I go. I don’t care about having a shower afterward, I work in a filthy environment. You’re over thinking it
PPL is a huge waste of time, just so upper lower or full body
>>76621052I run it as an 8 day program sometimes. So push pull legs rest push pull legs rest if I’m not recovered. If things are going good, I’ll run it was a 7 day program.
>>76621052Not so much frequency on your large muscle groups. Do this for a 5 day week:PushPullPushLegsPush
>>76624867Counterpoint: strength training is not necessary for legs
>>76623663>15 minutes to get ready>15 minutes to clean up>factoring in meal prepOkay now you’re just saying a bunch of shit that you have to do anyway. Turns out my PPL workout is 10 hours because I have to sleep for 8 hours beforehand. Actually it’s 19 hours because I have to go to work to afford my gym membership.
>>76624914Finally someone with IQ above room temp.
>>76627116>Okay now you’re just saying a bunch of shit that you have to do anywaynot if you just run upper/lower and save two an extra two days while still hitting everything twice a week
>>76623319Yep
>>76623663Home gym gods just keep winning
>>76627272The price of home gym is 150 dollars and it saves you commute. But in real gym you can make friends and talk with someone.
>>76627130>not if you just run upper/lower and save two an extra two days while still hitting everything twice a weekULfags are always so frustrated. Must be how shitty it feels to do all your important lifts at once. If time is a restraint you could do pull days with three dumbbells, two light and one heavy like 25 and 50lb.curls lightbent over supported row heavydumbbell face pull lightreverse fly light
>>76623319Honestly insane how long it took me to realize this.
>>76627925ok do a Upper/lower/arms. Still saves a day. But sure if you have no life then PPL is great
>>76621052In my case by hardly going to failure.If we split in a 5 or 6 days per week, just by going full heavy and finishing the set properly is enough.>pic for attention.
>>76621115Dyel take
>>76623663When we talk about time, we mean since the moment you start the exercise.Have this in mind from now on. Nobody cares if you take two shits before lifting or you commute 3 hrs when returning home.Seriously.
>>76623319>>76623587>>76627255>>76627962based bros. I at least cycle/run fairly often to justify myself skipping legs. but if you guys just completely skip legs with the full intention of letting them wither and shrink with no need for a cope i respect that even more.
>>76628171>When we talk about time, we mean since the moment you start the exercise.NEET luxuries. come back when mommy and daddy stop wiping your ass
