What's so bad about PPL for say someone who's at 1/2/4/4.5 ? Why is everyone shitting on it all of a sudden ?Doesn't help that literally every program is just slightly skewed PPL
>>76626938>someone who's at 1/2/4/4.That someone isn't you.Those are powerlifting lifts/standards so...Basically you have no clue what you are doing if you have to ask this question and I don't feel like explaining shit in detail for every tourist every day or so.Just Google "Arms lagging ppl" and you will see one of many problems, throwing Tris after chest+Delts will result in shit triceps and throwing biceps/forearms after tons of horizontal and vertical pulls will result in shit biceps/forearms. If you are dead set on ppl for whatever reason just swap bis to push and Tris to pull so you can hit them fresh and they will actually grow.>T. Big tricep haver
>>76626956That's why push legs pull arms is goated
Extra effort for no extra gains
>>76626960This. 6 days a week for just 2 times frequency when you could accomplish that with UL or torso limbs push pull with quads on push and hamstrings on pull or even 3 times frequency with a 3 day full body. It's reddit personified in a split.
>>76626960>>76626971>he doesn't enjoy working outGanna continue to enjoy lifting as much as possible while you try to avoid it and cry post about not seeing gainz cuz of the jews.
>>76626956That's literally me >>76626971You can literally just do ppl day in day out and you'd be barely training 4 days a week
>>76626956>>T. Big tricep haverPost physique you wont
>>76626938It's fine, literally most programs will work as long as you're training with intensity and eating and sleeping properly.
>>76626988I always had long skinny arms, it's the whole reason I got into the gym 18 months ago. I just want big arms, big forearms and a six pack.157lbs to 188lbs
>>76627005Your arms are lagging tho. And it's not because of PPL.
>76627010You
>>76626938>1/2/4/4.5That's not a measure of PPL tho. Why are you mixing the main four with a volume-based routine?Don't take me wrong, I love PPL and is the routine that mostly work for my goals. Only during winter time (because of more food ingestion) I dedicate two months to strength exercises.
>>76628150>>76626956Why are you all retarded. OP is clearly talking about PPL as a powersharting routine.It does make sense because who in their right mind would squat and deadlift on the same day if they're chasing PRs unless you're on PEDs
>>76626938U/L is a powerlifting split, unless you are focusing on the big three its not really for you.Brosplit is useless for natties and its 5 days a week.Full body 3-5 times week is good, you'll just need to manage fatigue and lower the intensity.PPL is also good, no need to do it 6 days a week, it can be or PPLxPPLx or PPLxxPPLxxYou will still be hitting each muscle group, at least twice in 7 days.Consistensy matters much more than training split and you can modify your based on your preferences.
>>76629147Bro split gave me and everyone gainz for football doing 3x20
>>766269381/2/3/4 is an ancient memeIf you care about ACTUAL fitness and meaningful strength, it's0/0.5/1/1.5/2/2.5/3/3.5/4/4.5/5> 0pl8 LEG RAISE with your feet touching the bar with 45 lbs in between them (spinal flexion) > 0.5pl8 BARBELL UPRIGHT ROW OVER HEAD till lockout (upward pull)> 1pl8 OHP (upward push)> 1.5pl8 ZERCHER JEFFERSON DEADLIFT (spinal extension)> 2pl8 BENT OVER BARBELL ROW (horizontal pull)> 2.5pl8 WEIGHTED UNDERHAND PULL UP until the chin rests on the bar (downward pull) > 3pl8 CLOSE GRIP BENCH PRESS with a small arch (horizontal push)> 3.5pl8 WEIGHTED DIP (downward push)> 4pl8 Barbell Lunge (Lunge)> 4.5pl8 ATG HIGH BAR SQUAT (squat)> 5pl8 DEFICIT DEADLIFT (hinge)0/0.5/1/1.5/2/2.5/3/3.5/4/4.5/5 is:> beautiful > simple> succinct > actually a good measurement of general fitnessSo next time you hear someone mention 1/2/3/4 - just say "try 0/0.5/1/1.5/2/2.5/3/3.5/4/4.5/5 pussy"
>>76626938What a shit cringe picture. Why is he punching down to the chest area? Shithead never took a boxing class once in his life.
I do PPL 3x a week and its been fine so far. I specifically avoid the 6x a week version because my shoulders started to feel too tired
>>76629938he's punching a midge in the head
>>76626938>tucking his thumbs
>>76627005Ur way 2 small 2 be speaking so authoritatively on the subject of arms.
>>76626938>all of a suddenIt was always considered inferior.You end up going to the gym every day, and not doing much. So you waste a lot of time getting there and warming up, but not too much sweating.Good for normies that have a social life at the gym, bad if you care about your time.
>>76630015>t.
>>76626938>Why is everyone shitting on it all of a sudden ?Demoralizers and wage copers. You can make any routine that's 2+ days a week work, and PPL (6 days) is easiest if you don't mind gym trips. Half hour a day, stay fresh, adjust volume for recovery.
>PPL (6 days) is easiest if you don't mind gym trips
>>76629944>I do PPL 3x a week and its been fine so far.That's the same thing as saying you do "full body" and only once a week. Minimizes gains. Take supplements and stretch and choose the right exercises to save your shoulders.
>>76630284Can you do 55lb single arm ohp for 10 reps?>noStop defending your bullshit routine then.
>>76630286How many lifting days do you think are best
>single arm ohp
>>76630276>Half hour a dayBarely enough for a single serious lift including warm-ups.I understand not everyone trains that way or wants to. My current routine is as minimalist as possible to align with my goals; I do 6 lifts in total split over two A and B days. I did this to reduce my gym time down to about an hour. >Can you do 55lb single arm ohp for 10 reps?No idea, why would you do meme lifts over the real ones? I shoulder pressed the 80's for sets of 10 today tho
>>76630037>You end up going to the gym every day, and not doing muchYou're an extremely low iq individual
>>76630293>How many lifting days do you think are best6-7 depending if you need a day off for rest or to do something else. After a while you get a feel for how much volume you can recover from, could be one hard set.>>76630294>single arm ohpIt's better at building strength than barbell. Know how everyone complains that they can't increase ohp? There you go, idiot.
>>76626938There's absolutely nothing wrong with it. /fit/ has just become a bunch of whiny fucking babies who think you cant recover with one day of rest. >>76626956>>76627005I do PPL and my arms mog you. Sounds like a personal problem to me>>76629944>>76630284>>76630308See babies >>76630287Are you trying to brag about lifting 55lbs? Please kill yourself
>7 days lifting Kek body with timestamp I need a good laugh
>>76630297>I shoulder pressed the 80's for sets of 10 today tho>I can type literally anything I want and you'll believe itI won't.
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>>76630319>Are you trying to brag about lifting 55lbs? Please kill yourselfSingle arm ohp, 10 reps, almost no one on the planet can do it. >I can use my entire homosexual body and jerk it up That's not pressing.
>>76630328I was waiting for you to post some shit like that just so I could mentally mog you too
>>76630323the fact that you believe a lift like that is unrealistic at all for people who lift seriously tells everyone all they need to know about your legitimacy to form strong opinions on lifting
>>76630345Post a video of your 80lb dumbbell ohp. I'll wait.
>>76630333>still trying to act like 55lbs is heavyYou need to find a rope, now. The world record is over 300 pounds nigger. 55lbs is nothing
>>76630335You guys literally look exactly the same tho...
>>76626938You mean brosplits?I've always shat on brosplits. Full body 4 life nigguh.
>>76630362>You need to find a rope, now. The world record is over 300 pounds nigger. 55lbs is nothingYou must be thinking of jerk, not press. Like circus dumbbell. Shows how much you know.
