By this I mean inner chest. Yeah I know that it's not a separately innervated area like the upper chest, blah blah. But why do they feel on fire after dips and cross-body flies? Why does the area look visibly better afterwards? Science cannot explain
>>76630003>dips and cross-body fliesthere is a chance for shoulder protraction which frees up pec from ribcage, setup for bench repeated ad nauseam >shoulders down and back >pinch scaps together in all sorts of circumstances as if the ONLY thing u can do with scaps is pinch them xD precludes pecs from working properlymiddle of pecs is frozen, constricted by ribcage with shoulders retracted and elbows behind you like in bench > Science cannot explaini just did bot :D >Can you grow this?effortlessly bot >how? decline (hands on elevation ) pushup position on paraletts 2nd ingredient - full shoulder protraction, scaps go down and out and into posterior tilt (lat spread without hiking shoulders up)3rd - slight elbow bend and pec flex >and? that's it, it's an isometric hold, u don't wanna move anywhere anyhow not to lose scapular alignment cartoonish berserk-esque pec teeth await u if u try it in less than 2 weeks, cause u never trained it - magic of noobz gains and here is forever elusive gastrocnemius of gods bot: >>76627650not so elusive anymore :D
>>76630003narrow grip chest press. squeeze with elbows fully extended like you are about to juice something.
I struggle to hit lower chest with dips. I started doing this recently>bench press>decline dumbell press>incline db press>db flysIs this retarded?
>>76631243I'd take your advice if you spoke English. Stop pretending you speak it or learn to speak it better, otherwise you will continue to have zero engagement on an English speaking website. Go back to whatever otherlanguage shithole you came from until then.
>>76630003You have shitty insertions dont even bother
>>76632089All do the same (stretch the chest in same way). Incline and decline bench is just a meme to destroy your front delts lol. Try an upward chest fly if you really wanna “target” your upper chest
>>76632115>ncline and decline bench is just a meme to destroy your front deltsI dont feel it in delts add all, but i definetly feel it in upper, and a little in lower. Basically i feel each lift in it's targeted area but i feel like either fly or bp is redundant.If you are hitting delts that is a skill issue
>>76632126Its impossible NOT to hit front delts, since it is a push compound exercise.
>>76632137I mean, i have not focused on delts so if i really hit em i will get doms which has not happened. Just dont feel it in delts but i feel it in chest where it counts
>>76631243this nigga is every thread writing paragraphs on paragraphs and i never read the bullshit he posts and i never will.
>>76632167I would listen if he posted his own body instead of another guy
>>76632169true 2bh. if he accompanied his borderline schizo posts with an impressive physique i would try and detangle his retard sentences because he seems to speak with authority and gives the impressions that he has some knowledge of human kinematics, but as it stands i get one or two sentences in, cant comprehend what the fuck he's trying to say, and skip his post.>>76631243you hear that retard? post body.
>>76632404>speak with authority and gives the impressions that he has some knowledge of human kinematics, It's very easy to fall prey to this type of bullshit. Just mention a few tendon names, sprinkle "transverse plane" and "posterior tilt" and there you go. There are many grifters that turn this into money, eg the Functional Patterns guy. Meanwhile we know that there's no such thing as "alignment" or perfect form, that every body has weaknesses misalignments and strengths, and that tissue gets stronger if you increase the load sensibly over time. That's why people like wormchad deadlift 200+ kilos with rounded backs or Usain Bolt gets first with a crooked scoliotic back.Schizobot is an asshole that makes this place even more shit than it naturally is.
Pic related but bend over close to 90deg. Exercise goes from useless to goat. And I have a 3 plate bench
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>>76632612yes that will work also bitch bot gpt, just control scapula - lat spread without any shoulder hike - protract shoulders and just the ending position as isometric hold this is how u get ALL OF PEC MUSCLE, ALL THE WAY TO STERNUM and berserk-like teeth in the middle if u don't protract shoulders and don't drop scaps down and out and move elbows behind torso middle of pecs will never grow, no matter what u do CAUSE IT FUCKING SNAGS ON THE RIB-CAGE mine: >>76631243this business with bench for pecs is VERY similar to calf raises for gastrocnemius: >>76632910>straight leg calf raise makes bones of knee joint poke gastrocnemius making it suffer and not grow and soleus along gastrocnemius gets the same treatment cause they are cojoined in ahilles tendon
>>76632991>get off my board get off my board get off my board get off my board get off my board get off my board get off my board get off my board get off my board get off my board get off my board get off my board get off my boardi can't take this guy anymore lads
>>76633112Exact same reaction here bro. I don't know why this cunt makes more mad than any other tripfag
>>76630003Science and its nerds wont explain this to you BUT if you are feeling it when you do dips and cross body flies then maybe, for you, you have thicker or more abundant muscle fibers in the center at the origin of the muscle and YOU will experience more growth there, even though, a s you point out, its not separately enervated. Perhaps your "shape" is such that you will hypertrophy there a bit more than at the armpit insertion area. Or something.Science will try to explain why, but if you keep going and are consistent, you will just do, even if we can never explain why. Try. Whats the worst tht can happen? Your whole fucking chest gets jacked and juicy?I only do flat barbell bench and I have only done flat bench for years. No flyes, no inclines, no dumbbells. My upper chest is jacked and juicy. Its just the way im put together. Flat bench fires up my entire pec, top to bottom. I dont need to do inclines or flyes or cables. I jsut grow. Conversely, my arms are sticks. They dont grow. But my chest does.
>>76630003I don't think you can grow just your inner chest. That'd be like growing only the top of your bicep. Thr muscle strands go acrros the chest. You can engage more of the upper or lower chest, but not the outer or inner would be my best guess.
>>76630003Probably just the stretch. Truth be told it's not of paramount importance to hypertrophy the muscle but it helps people feel it. People say the same thing about lifting belts.
>>76634119>Science and its nerds wont explain this to you BUT (i just fucking did bot) if you are feeling it when you do dips and cross body flies then you have thicker or more abundant muscle fibers in the center at the origin of the muscle and YOU will experience more growth there, even though, its not separately innervated. Perhaps your "shape" is such that you will hypertrophy there a bit more than at the armpit insertion area. >>76631243>middle of pecs is frozen, constricted by ribcage with shoulders retracted and elbows behind you like in benchit's got zero to do with your gemneticisms and everything to do with how u move :D >>76631243>decline (hands on elevation ) pushup position on paraletts>2nd ingredient - full shoulder protraction, scaps go down and out and into posterior tilt (lat spread without hiking shoulders up)>3rd - slight elbow bend and pec flexpecs near sternum with all its teeth materialized overnight bot, surprise surprise - it's perfectly symmetrical and nothing's wrong with me, i was just of idiotic opinion repeated ad nauseam that bench/pushup is pecs, well it's fucking not and the story repeats with almost EVERYTHING, it's all wrong lol :D >>76627650now, one might get real fucken angry about it, that it's all bullshit carefully molded to fuck u up if u try to get muscle but on the other hand - isn't that all u ever wanted? >what ? to grow whatever muscle u please provided u put enough effort to find out how to actually use it? >sorta, kinda yeah, that's my thinking also :D pec is wrapped around ribcage in bench, u are pressing with lats retard and growing malformed and shortened pecs at best ruining your posture and breathing, pulling your spine into permanent flexion, your rib-cage into collapsed state look at the anatomical drawing i am providing - pec is NOT 2 RED BUMBS atop your chest like in op sodomite picture - if u draw a line between origin and insertion there is BONE in the way in your bench setup
>>76635531Don't listen to these fags. You give pretty sound advice. I have chronic hypertension in my whole body and could see for myself, that isometric holds in conjunction with miniscule movement of the joints frees me of these tensions.So fuck these cock sucking faggots, I will read your posts.
