>>76631491
you either do the work or you don't.
it's your choice if you still want to be a shitcase in 10 years

>>76631491
>time to give up because someone else was born with better genetics
How has this mindset benefited you?

>woe is me
eat more you retard. ngmi

>>76631504
Some cryptobro bollocks.

>>76631499

Not that simple tho is it chud. Doing the work clearly didn't do fucking anything. I'll always be a shitcase anyway

>>76631500

I am completely self-aware of it and tried to escape it this year but it just didn't happen. I don't see the point in getting advice from people who've never had my struggle. I am naturally weak and frail, so why bother?

>>76631491
>Its taken me till this age to join this site.
fuck off to redit bro we dont give a fuck
you either say something stupid to get some hahas here or post a disgusting image

>>76631491
it'll take longer than 3 months to look good
you already said you felt better so idk your issue

>>76631491
>Openly admits diet was shit
>Openly admits only trained for 3 months
>Intensity and programming was probably shit too because you clearly haven't done any research into lifting
Did you gain strength anon? You said you could only bench 50kg but if you started benching less than that you still made progress, even without knowing how to train.
Now imagine if you learnt how to train and stuck to it. Your body didn't change because you only worked out for 3 months, and neither cut nor bulked.
Train well for a year and then tell us if you're actually doomed or you were just bitching out.

>>76631491
Dude shut the fuck up. You need to get out of this defeatist mindset. You are the only person holding you back, you can't be ok with that. 25 is still young enough to get your shit together and sculpt your dream physique. Just go late at night or early in the morning. Guarantee nobody will give a fuck about how you look, if you're in there training that's all that matters

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>>76631509
3 months isn't "doing the work", improving yourself, including lifting, is a lifelong process, the struggle doesn't end until you are dead

>>76631491
You're focusing too much on the result, not on the journey.
Just fucking go lift. It's fun.
In 5 years you'll look back and see your a completely different person, but that's not the point

>>76631509
You're 25, giving up this early into the game is retard shit. The only serious problem I see here is you being retarded enough to think working out for 3 months would fix all your problems, life is a series of problems and struggles if it wasn't there would be no purpose. You have to keep working, there won't be a day when everything better but one day you'll reflect on the past with embarrassment because you almost gave up.

>>76631513
I got banned from reddit for being too right wing brother. I would absolutely love to be the powerhouse unit that I am supposed to be for my political beliefs.

>>76631524
Realistically it was because nothing else in my life changed as a result of working out. I did the whole thing as well. Two days of pull and push and two leg days to try and fix my shit pogo sticks.

It was sort of working. But lack of social life made me think there was no point

>>76631596
You are a beginner. No need to go to the gym 6/week, that will lead to... Exactly what happened, you'll think the juice is not worth the squeeze.
Just fucking do Starting Strength, and report the results in 6 months.

>>76631530
For the intensity I do not know what I am supposed to say really. I slowly pushed the weight up on everything. Could only deadlift 70kg because I ran out of room on my cheap ass barbell.

I ended up slacking on reps sure. I enjoyed the feeling after working out but I hated how it felt. All this cutting and bulking bullshit is what it is. My body is horrific with no muscle mass. It wouldn't have mattered either way. Yes I did start with barely lifting 5kg dumbells and 25kg bench press. If I really pushed it I probably could have done a few reps of 60kg.

But still it felt pointless. Bitching out or not, all the macho stuff doesn't work on me mate

>>76631545
I worked out at home in my garage with a cheap bench and weights. Had enough that it was a struggle. I tried and failed. I don't know what else to say really

>>76631547
Cookie cutter nonsense. I tried to improve and nothing improved as a result. Still had no fucking women in the DMs lad.

>>76631581
Is it fun though? I fucking hated it to be honest. Moving my body in ways it barely could and then feeling bad about myself when I couldn't do it. Explain to me how that's supposed to be fun? Feeling hot, sweaty and gross.

>>76631586

Well I'm autistic so I am a bit retarded mate. I thought when I am struggling four days a week three months I'd at least see an improvement in some aspect of my daily life. Dating didn't improve, found no new people to hang out with and certainly didn't get any closer to my dreams.

I was just left with backne and a slightly stronger feeling body. Still weak as a twig

>>76631602
I don't have the resources for Starting Strength, I looked into it but I don't have a squat rack or enough weight to do it properly.

>>76631491
Looks like you aren't particularly smart, aren't beautiful, aren't athletic. Probably shouldn't breed. There is nothing for you to live for, except (if you are native) seeing your land returned as the sole domain of its people. So work towards that, and earn your place in Valhalla.

>>76631887
>>76631887
Lmfao I was waiting to meet one of you. I am blessed to be in the presence of a true 4chan cunt like yourself.

>>76631491
take mind altering drugs
I've heard that LSD can cure autism (not the rain man kind tho)

>>76632034
Well by that logic I should be cured already genius. I did it years ago and had a great time. But I've experienced it now.

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>>76631491 I'm a year behind you as a failed male twink. Frankly bro, you're being a bitch. I don't have a garage or a social life and I'm still doing it. Only difference is though is that I didn't stop at 3 months. You also keep going back and fourth with enjoying it or not so you're not really worth responding to but i'm gonna anyway because I wana feel above you. Faggot pussy. Nigger retard.

>>76632037
did you do it around other people?

>>76632006
Looks like you're a toxic resentful runt then. I don't care about you and no-one else will, you feeble LOSER.

Sounds like OP will make an excuse no matter what you say to him.
I'm 29, spent the last decade smoking weed all day every day and doing other drugs. Sitting in my room playing video games and ordering take out the whole time. Diagnosed with high functioning autism+ADHD. Absolute hyper manlet. Been lifting and running for 4-5 months now and feel way better. If you do everything right your body will change, but it's a long process. The whole draw of a nice body is the exclusivity of it- if you could get it in 3 months everyone would be walking around ripped.
To get girls you need to talk to them in real life. In 2025 they're impressed that someone will even approach them. Other than that you just need to be confident. If you want friends from lifting you should go to a public gym, scope out who the regulars are, and start some conversations with them after a few months. You need to go outside.

It's mainly your mentality that's fucked. If all you think about and focus on is how shit you are it's going to be easy to just give up. You need to focus on what you do have going for you, and look towards the future. It takes TIME, you have to keep thinking positive until you build the life you want. I bet any disadvantage you have, I have; we're on a similar level, except my trajectory is slightly upwards and yours is down. What do you think the difference between us is going to be in 3 years?

Of course if you want to sit in your room and spend the next 5 years the same way you spent the last 5, be my guest.

>>76631592
>I got banned from reddit for being too right wing brother
lol, lmao even. reddit bans anyone with a pulse, that doesn't mean anything.

>>76632045
This site hasn't failed to impress. I love you people lmao. I am not a nigger though.

>>76632062
Yeah did it with a mate at the time. Then microdosed several times at college and at home etc. It was interesting and I did get productive but I cant do it again.

>>76632070
Yeah of course I am, why do you think I am here?

>>76632116

I only make excuses when it's generic advice. You've made it clear you have similar struggles so I am more inclined to listen to you. It's strange that you've actually took the time to speak like this. Ngl I am enjoying the toxic negativity I was expecting here. But I do appreciate the things you've highlighted so cheers. I do a few things with my time that get me out the house which I will keep private. I know my mentality is fucked. In a way it's due to not knowing where to start. What did you actually do to get out the mindset?

>>76632136

Fair enough

"hypermobile" makes it sound like you're running around like a kid on a sugar rush

>>76632158
Nah I wish it was, it just means I am naturally weak and I'm double jointed and uncoordinated.

>>76631491
When I first started lifting, I was able to bench empty bar and deadlift around 40kg. I could only do sumo because I was unable to get in the conventional position. It was 5 years ago and I was 29 years old at the time.

Right now, 5 years later, I bench 95kg for a set of 10 and deadlift 190kg for a set of 5, conventional, no straps but mixed grip. I am bigger, stronger and have a better physique than ever.

3 months of lifting is nothing, you probably still lack the required skill and practice to do the movements correctly.

>>76632155
(1/2)
Honestly I started going to therapy. Describing how I lived to someone else and giving them updates every couple of weeks made me want to change much more(verbally saying something to someone else makes it much more real in your own head). I had a fucked up childhood and I went to my first session ready to tell him all the traumatic shit that's happened to me. He listened and said "You're making yourself sound like a victim. You're telling yourself these stories and re-enforcing an image of who you are. It doesn't matter if the stories are true, you need to start doing things different so you can start telling yourself positive stories".
After that, I spent a long time trying to get rid of my addictions. I was playing vidya for 8-12 hours a day, smoking 2-4g of green and vaping nicotine constantly. I was even wanking up to 3 times a day between all the gaming and smoking, had a massive porn collection. It took a long time and many tries to cut all of those habits, but eventually I got there.
I also reached out to anybody I hadn't burned bridges with. 2 years earlier I ghosted everyone I knew with no explanation. People were calling my family to make sure I was still alive. It took a lot of humility but I reached out to my friends and to my utter surprise they weren't mad and were happy to hear from me. Loneliness is an absolute killer and it'll eat you alive, and if it wasn't for me knowing that fact I wouldn't have had the balls to get back in touch with them.
Exercising is also a no brainer. Our bodies are simply made to do a lot of exercise and not getting it will lead to a lot of problems. I've suffered with Anxiety(and depression) my whole life. My anxiety had become crippling and I could barely go to tesco. Since I started exercising it's become much more manageable. Of course I started and quit the gym many times before I actually became consistent.

>>76631491
You gave up too quickly. You’re fat so you have to catch up to normal fitness standards first. Ignore what you read on the internet: 100kg bench is very good so 50kg bench is not bad for 3 months if you started from scratch. It takes years to get to a place where your body is considered good. This is why some guys roid.

You should just develop a strength base and do some accessory work for hypertrophy. GZCLP is a good routine for this. Only do 3-4 sessions a week to ensure recovery and to increase your work capacity. Also you need to find exercises that work well for you and you can progress on. There’s no one exercise you HAVE to do. Just do a variation/alternative exercise for that muscle group that doesn’t snap your shit up. Now just go and do it

>>76632155
>>76632221
(2/2)
Exercising also goes with healthy eating, which will also have a huge effect on your (physical and mental) health.

I would also recommend laying back on the social media/tik tok and getting yourself into reading. I was spending up to 6 hours a day looking at right-wing videos on youtube and just hating people. I still totally agree with all the shit I watched, but honestly engaging with this stuff constantly just pulls you into a mental cage. No one in my real life knows who Hasan Piker is or makes tiktok dances about Charlie Kirk's death, so why am I sitting around getting so angry about it? Reading is great for improivng focus and helps calm you down.

Something that held me back for a long time is thinking that I knew better than everyone else. I always thought everyone's advice was too simple and too stupid. 'Exercising isn't going to fix my depression, I'm depressed because the world is going to absolute shit', is the kind of shit I would think when I got advice from people. I'm about 2 IQ off of joining mensa, and that has often lead to me thinking I should rely on my brain to figure out what's best for me, but as I get older I have had to recognize how much I don't know, and how wrong I have been about how I should live life. The mind is an excellent servant, but a terrible master. Most good advice is painfully simple, blatantly obvious and cliche. Humans have been around for thousands of years we basically have this shit figured out. Stuff like 'eat well, get sunlight, go in nature, get exercise, spend quality time with friends, talk to someone, get your head out of your phone, get off your PC, don't do drugs, get a fulfilling job/hobby' is all retard 12 year old level advice, and it's all tremendously effective.

>>76632185
I disagree with this, I spent weeks trying to get form right (especially deadlift). It basically forced me to do it properly. Constantly getting random feedback on why my deadlift was crap etc. Looking into not injuring my back yadda yadda. I really tried in this regard.

>>76632230
I did the same exercises weekly since I had limited equipment so it was structured. The one I hated was lunges/split squats. Due to carrying so much extra weight it made them a pain.

I gave up in july btw. So its been ages since I started again.

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>>76631491
>I couldnt do boxing! my body is too fragile!
you fucking nigger. I was 300lbs when I signed up for boxing and I'm now thereabouts 214lbs and i'm my coaches pride and joy because of how much weight I lost and how much I improved mentally through boxing and subsequently lifting. it was glacial at times, yes, but that's how it goes sometimes - you just have to stick it out and believe in yourself and make no excuses. honestly, you're 25 years old and still making excuses? grow the fuck up.

>>76632221
Must've been nice for someone to care that much to call your family. I don't think you get it like me. You seemed to not be as off the edge as I am.

>>76632270

I was totally relating to your advice until you said "I am 2 IQ off joining mensa". I disregard any advice you give me now.

>>76631491
>In the uk
LOL BONGFAG!!!!

>>76632318
Look jigaboo, you're probably 6 foot 1 with good bone density anyway. Thick wrists etc. You're never going to convince me unless you were physically weak. But I'll bet even at 300lbs you were still not fucked with by anyone were you?

>>76631491
>"Oh just get a trainer bro!" In the uk they're shit people. Always drug dealers, criminals or just bullies. Even if they pretend to be reformed they'll go back to it the moment you get into an argument in traffic.
Dang, so bodybuilders and gym bros have a bad boy criminal reputation in the UK?

>>76631491
Become a security guard or something, it's an easy job

>>76632342
>6.5 inch wrists
>couldnt even squat/bench/DL a plate when I started
>only recently unlocked the ability to do chinups after 6 months of back training 2 times a week
i'm still weak but I'm stronger than I was and that's the important part. you're only lashing out at people because of your frustration with your sedentary and unfulfiled lifestyle, I've been there. get smart and get moving.

>>76632339

If I say too much I'll be arrested for talking so I better be quiet

>>76632344

It's probably like that everywhere, maybe it's a cultural thing. But I've never met a gym bro here who wasn't a giant cunt. (I am one myself)

>>76632354
How am I supposed to be a security guard? I'm barely 5 ft 10 and resemble an unathletic fat guy who looks disproportionately skinny and fat. I am not putting any fear to anybody palo

>>76632382
boomers are scared of ya

>>76632116
Great post. Saved.

>>76632360

You would be absolutely correct, I imagine for a lot of loser people, this is what they do. I can only listen to people who have been in my position. If you got good grades, socially healthy and are 6 foot plus with a good job. I don't want to fucking hear about your "struggles". I am extremely angry that I am stuck like this. Especially since I am right wing and literally spend my weekends watching combat sports. I act like a liberal but talk like a conservative. You know what I mean? I am supposed to practice what I preach and wholeheartedly believe. The only productive thing I did the past few years is learn to drive and get a car.

Buy a home gym for 100-150 dollars.

>>76632398
What would that include? I've got a bench and a bunch of shitty weights that leak sand everywhere. Saw a squat rack for 100 or so.

>>76632322
I lucked out and met someone in Uni who's actually just a stand up guy, which is rare. ATM he's married and getting a mortgage so he can settle down and have kids and I'm unemployed living with my parents, and he's still taking the time to hang out and rooting for me. 99% of other people in my life totally ditched me when I had a mental breakdown a few years ago. They realized it wasn't worth the effort to be associated with someone who always has something wrong with them.

>>76632335
I got an IQ test when I was 25 because I was struggling so much at work and in life. I thought I might be a little retarded because I saw so many people pass me by and excel in life while I could barely get the simplest stuff done. It turns out raw problem solving ability is not much use. It's better to be a little bit smarter than average and charismatic.
Usually the smarter someone is, the more inclined they are to shoot themselves in the foot with arrogance that they know better than everyone else. Most of the smartest people I know excel in one aspect of their life(usually their career or a particular field of interest) but the rest of their life is totally fucked up.
I also realized how small the difference is between 100 and 140IQ. If you have average IQ and you're in the room with a literal genius, he's really not /that/ much smarter than you.

>>76632155
>What did you actually do to get out the mindset?
Not that guy, but for me it was: I let myself know that enough was enough and I started grinding slowly to victory at age 33. Not working on myself became a greater pain than working on myself.

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>>76632342
Did you come here to actually seek advice or did you just want validation for being a pussy?

>>76632491

I wont get an IQ test because I don't think my ego could handle it being 90 or lower (I have long though it is around here). I have skills but when it comes to even basic maths my brain is permanently fogged up. I can't really relate to you however. But thanks I guess

>>76632592
Requires equipment I dont have

>>76632546

I am pissed off honestly. Because I am meant to be doing more and I know I am.

>>76632631
No it doesn't.

>>76632598

Why am I a pussy? I think I know the answer I just wanna know lmao

>>76632639
Your indecisiveness and lack of willpower are showing, you are turning to 4chan to provide you with the action impetus that must come from yourself because you need someone else to tell you what you need to do. Life doesn't work that way. You can't rip parts of yourself and give them to other people. Intrinsic motivation or bust. When I got back into lifting more than a year ago I didn't need to come to 4chan, it was entirely an internal matter and continues being so. I'm here for minor wrist pain management and some workout advice. Now get to know your body if you care at all.

>>76632808
Its called autism buddy

>>76632411
>What would that include?
Pull up bar or station with both pull up and dip bar
one adjustable dumbbell
>I've got a bench and a bunch of shitty weights that leak sand everywhere. Saw a squat rack for 100 or so.
Bench and squat racks are for powersharters. Stop powersharting. Do weighted calisthenics + dumbbells.
>shitty weights that leak sand everywhere.
Buy iron dumbbells, not sand/concrete.

>>76632636
>Because I am meant to be doing more and I know I am.
Let me share something that will change your perspective.
Nobody cares about you. Your inner workings are no one's business. Your hopes, dreams, wishes, nobody, NOBODY (except you!) will be able to be responsible for them before. When you were a kid, you were hooked up to your parents' dopamine generators, now you are hopefully no longer; if you still are, then it's way past time for you to get away from them emotionally. You aren't meant to do SHIT. Nobody will slap you by the hand saying "Anon! You are falling, jesus!! Pull yourself up!!" You will be kicked as you fall and blamed for it. Only if you start taking responsibility for your life, to the best of your ability, will people start loving and respecting you. Nobody can construct you back. Get that "meant to do" shit out of your head if you cannot do it NOW.

>>76633013
>Do weighted calisthenics + dumbbells.
This. Recommended and approved by this ex-fatty here.

>>76633013
Its all I can afford rn. Cant go buying iron weights if I just fall off the wagon again. Idk where the fuck I'm meant to put a pull up bar in my house. How the fuck am I going to do a pullup anyway? I have the upper body strength of a child

>>76633024
But it comes from a place of wanting more for myself which is why I made the post. It wont change my mindset because I am stuck in it anyway. Idk man

>>76633029
>This. Recommended and approved by this ex-fatty here.

Who was probably already genetically powerful so the advice you give is as worthless as a chocolate kettle

>>76633045
Okay mr. obstacles, this is how I did it
-assisted chin-ups with a stool where my legs actually did most of the work
-jump and slowly descend when you can manage it semi-controlled
-jump and lock arms mid-descend at about 90 degrees to see that you are actually making progress
-after a while, hang down on bar, tuck legs a bit if bar is too low, then swing yourself up
-repeat with proper grip pull-ups
there you go, if you have a doorway and some peace, you're golden

>>76633055
i was so genetically powerful that my knees hurt from doing pull-ups, see:
>>76633060
But this didn't come from nothing, at first I accepted myself as who I was, fat with no chance of ever being fit, weirdly, only when I completely gave up on myself did I finally have the unshakeable drive to slowly work my way up.

>>76632166
no it doesn't
i'm hypermobile it just means you can more easily sprain yourself and dislocate stuff because your joints have an abnormal range of motion

>>76631491
Nigga your brain is COOKED my guy fr fr

>>76632382
You just described most security guards
T.security guard

>>76633045
Ok I didn't know you are fat. You won't do pull ups then.
Use dumbbells then but also weighted push ups and some other calisthenics. You don't need a gym.
You can find exercises here: exrx.net

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>>76631491
> 0 actual impedance in life
> but hey pls feel bad for me lol
Peak black pill faggotry

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>>76632631
lmao. classic. Go to the met thread, they got you covered

>>76632185
based 30 yo go getter

lurk 2-3 years before posting

I couldn't be bothered to read any other posts but calisthenics are the way to go for you

DIY a half rack and cement plates, might be an enjoyable project.

>>76633521
Why?