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He has quite a severe case of gay lips
This is what doing no sports as a teenager then hopping on gear for pure hypertrophy reasons and doing strict rigid contraction movements to grow the glycogen and water reserves and barely any dense tissue does to you.Most roiders are full of water and sparkle especially if they're machine hoarders, even powershitters or powershitting adjacent bodybuilders manage to keep some beef after hopping off
>>76636160He was always a grifter insecure anxiety son of a bitch.
>>76636160yet he is rich and he won
He said like 6 years ago that he trains for like 20 minutes 2-3 times a week because lifting makes him tired and he wants to focus on his businesses He also said he's never really enjoyed the gymHe basically focused on businessmaxxing
>>76636194ok then why take all the steroid if you hate training? you arent making much sense. its like saying you hate skateboarding so you bought a 10k skateboard to show off while you skate..
>>76636220Because he's not one of those roiders who LARP about how training hard and long hours is why they're jackedHe's always been in the extreme outlier position of a roider where he admits steroids literally do everything for you and training is optional
>>76636229but thats not what mike israetel says at allim so confused, how effective are steroid? seriously there are lot of /fraud/ /cbt/ roided body that look completly dyel. no idk much about steroid because im natty and im fine with being natty
>>76636235If you go to a gym frequently and for long enough you can spot a certain kind of roider exceptionally easy:>Capped delts, huge traps, red grainy skin, skinny calfs and ankles, vascular, lean, huge, possible bacne>You only ever see him lift pussy weight or do circuit trainingYou don't need to work hard on roids at all to get great results
>>76636166lol he does kinda look like that billy harrington guy, or whatever the fuck his name was.
>>76636260Thank you for those tips, i mainly do group bodybuilding (we are a class of 20 people with 2 coach) and i don't think any of us use steroid but I will pay closer attention from now one
>>76636270>... or whatever the fuck his name was.nice save
>>76636260>roider>skinny calfs and anklesSo you mean niggers?
>>76636323No
>>76636260and then you stop seeing him for months because he hopped off and stopped training altogether
who is this?
>>76636260>>Capped delts, huge traps, red grainy skin, skinny calfs and ankles, vascular, lean, huge, possible bacneSteroids dont grow calves for some reason
>>76636220Gays take steroids so that they can look good at the gay cruise pool party. They barely train hard.
>>76636160>prematurely aged himself just to end up with the physique of a casual natty lifterHuge L for roidcucks
>>76636235Mike Israetel is deeply delusional. He may be well educated and maybe even fairly high IQ but that does not protect against delusion. He uses his high degree of knowledge to be able to twist and cherry pick facts and research to justify his delusions. I hope he gets better but with all the roiding and surgeries and insistence on competing in bodybuilding that doesn’t seem likely.
>>76636160I unironically like this guy
>>76636170hey look, it's the "not doing sports as a teenager" schizo again
>>76636441Calves won't grow if you don't train them
>>76636160Derek has always been a retarded grifter. He convinced a bunch of young gullible children that he was an expert on health and fitness because he blasted gear and read a few pubmed articles. Now that he has a critical mass of followers he can live off shilling shitty supplements to those same children. If you've seen him train you would think this guy never picked up a weight in his life. He only ever had an "impressive" physique because of his drug use. I put impressive in quotes because really the only impressive thing were his delts. Which muscle group grows the most from anabolic steroids? You see my point. Guy has no real concept of how to train, how to use drugs effectively and how to diet.
>>76636617I literally get all my info from him. About to hop on finasteride. What do?
>>76636549thank you for the good reply, mike israetel did say in a video that people who roid have to train harder than natty, in the same video he mentions the importance of sleep being better than steroid. its all incorrect?
>>76636549PhD absolutely does not mean "well educated".t. I'm friends with a large number of PhDs and post-docs.
>>76636623I would advise you to not go on finasteride because of the chance of permanent symptoms in a condition called post finasteride syndrome. Derek actually touches on post finasteride syndrome (PFS) in a couple of videos and once again you can tell his knowledge is so limited and he did surface level research. His conclusion is that PFS is caused by low androgens after getting off finasteride but this obviously proven false by the huge number of people with PFS who have tried IFBB pro levels of steroid cycles to try to improve their condition. The problem with finasteride is that it doesn't just inhibit testosterone -> DHT (DHT being the most androgenic hormone in the body) but also disrupts the synthesis of five other hormones including allopregnanolone. You can look up how important alloP is in the body. Finasteride and other 5ar inhibitors will turn you into an old man with dementia. Your brain, penis, gut will get fucked by these drugs. There's a reason it's the number one drugs trannies take. It takes you away from being a man.
>>76636654grim
>>76636627Yes, it is incorrect. I guess Mike's point was that sleep is very important and he really tried to make it stick in the audience's minds but it's not true. His main issue is that he's a piss poor communicator with a huge ego.
>>76636188you're autistic
>>76636675okay thanks, but i still find it weird that he insisted that people who roid like him dont take the easy path, claiming it was hard and brutal part about never stopping lifting and getting angry, lot of mental fatigue, etc. then he said natty was like the easy path to lifting while roid is hardocre. guess, like you said, he is delusional and doesnt't want to admit that he is a poor responder to steroid and he cant train properly?
>>76636654>dementia>This register-based prospective cohort study in Sweden comprising 2236876 men found that, while 5-ARIs were associated with increased risk for all-cause dementia, Alzheimer disease, and vascular dementia after the start of treatment, the association became statistically insignificant over 4 years of exposure. There was no association between 5-ARIs and suicide, but both finasteride and dutasteride were associated with an increased risk for depression.Please stop lying anon
More plates more big ass heads
>>76636623Don't trust Derek in regards to Finasteride. Post-Finasteride Syndrome is very real and there are men who have killed themselves because they were tricked into taking that poison.
>>76636732WHAT SYMPTOM SHOULD I EXPECT?SERIOUSLY, I TOOK IT TO PREVENT BEING BALD, LONG TIME USER...
>>76636593>Hey look it's the common sense Chad ill just brush off as a schizo because i have no counter argument
>>76636744Just start wearing dresses and makeup already and get your package of estradiol pins
>>76636744anecdotal reports of people having side effects long after they stopped taking fin, but still it's like 2% chance to get side effects
>>76636288You sound Indian.
>>76636787Because I joined a bobybuilding group class at my local gym?
>>76636800What you've just said is exactly what an Indian would reply
>>76636809I'm sorry english isn't my mother's tongue but still I don't regret joining the class, i saw lot of imrpovement and now i can bench press 3 plate !! i would have never being able by myself, please be kind, i cant lift alone i find it too depressing, in a class setting its very fun and we encourage and give tips to each other to see lot of improvement
>>76636160Link?
>>76636220he loved the attention from other guys and sometimes girls. Fag admits to blasting solely to look dry before house parties
>>76636235very effective if your training and diet are good. Otherwise they still work but aren't worth the side effects
>>76636166>gay lips*** lips, they do be tending sodomite often though >>76636194>lifting makes him tired and he wants to focus on his businessesloves money, hates honest work - you, it's and ***>>76636441>>76636598but it's enough to walk to get calves on roods, this nigger*** is however THAT lazy :D >>76632910
what programm to look like derek?did derek ever did a competition?
>>76636654>There's a reason it's the number one drugs trannies takeNot really. Troons take spironolactone. How do you suggest people stop their DHT from raping their hairline then?
>>76636654This is complete garbage. I swear to fucking God there are bald assholes on here who say dont take fin/min because they are pissdd they waited too long. As someone who's on it I can only say I wish I started sooner. Most people have zero sides and see moderate hair regrowth. I wish I had started in my 20s.
>>76636184This all starts to make sense when you realize he was in the PUA scene.
>>76638369I took finasteride in my early 20's and got gyno and then stopped taking it and and never even went bald, it has been 10 years and I am norwood 1, I just over acted about the transition from my teenager hairline to adult man hairline.
>>76638539I've never even heard of that as a side. But that's fine if its not for you great. Still most guys have zero sides and hair regrowth. Its not some dick breaker magic pill or whatever the fear mongers keep saying.
>>76636166it's really odd how he only speaks from the lower jaw now too, he looks like he's constantly jutting his jaw forward and barely moving his face
>>76636170He wasn't your typical ectomorph though. He was a fatguy, which is strange, because usually fatties that lose weight later on are quite robust from carrying around all that weight for most of their life.
>>76636220He took Dbol to look good at parties he did it to get bitches and stopped roiding primarily for his hair he was the OG looksmaxxer.
>>76639248>he was the OG looksmaxxerPeople forget this but Derek really was the first looksmaxxer
>>76636441>Steroids dont grow calves for some reasonThey have a much smaller concentration of androgen receptors.
>>76636549>He uses his high degree of knowledge to be able to twist and cherry pick facts and research to justify his scamsI wonder (((why)))
>>76636166Turn your monitor on.
>>76636270Sleep tight Aniki we never 4get
>>76636160This is what happens when you don't at least build a natty base for a few years first.
>>76636170Thanks for that comma after "hoarders".
>>76640082Should be a comma after sparkle and a period after hoarders thougheverbeit