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went from beign a chronic drinker (1/2 bottle of whiskey every day) to smoking weed
upgrade or downgrade?
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At least eat or vape your weed so you dont fuck up your lungs. Id say daily alcohol consumption is way worse for your body than daily weed use (if vaped/eaten at least) imo.
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when you say 1/2 a bottle do you mean a 300ml bottle or a 700ml bottle (or more)

150ml isnt terrible. maybe like 3-4 pints of beer worth
if its 350ml thats like 8 drinks of beer which is BAD

And if its half of a litre bottle youre a deadset alcoholic

Regardless of the bottle size, even if it was the smallest size, so 3 drinks a day x 3 = 21 pints of beer a week. Thats bad, you will likely get brain damage from that over time

Weed is probably safer but again its gunna make you a bum. Pick your poison
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>>76636480
yeah, i did get myself a vaporizer
> Id say daily alcohol consumption is way worse for your body than daily weed use (if vaped/eaten at least) imo.
thats an upgrade then which is good for me
one step at a time
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>>76636469
Alcohol, most definitely. It really fucks up your body's homeostasis which is essential for recovery and energy.

Weed, as far as I'm aware, doesn't affect your metabolism that much and can actually help you rest a little better. Granted, it will affect your lungs and VO2max which will effect your gains. Also, people are prone to eat like shit when they smoke, so try to pay attention to your nutrition, pal.

I wish weed was legal where I live, the street weed varies so much, can't be arsed to buy either straight up psychedelics or just some poor ass weed which you have to smoke half a gram in order it to do something.
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>>76636486
I drank about 300ml-400ml a day
but it didn't even feel good anymore, it felt like nothing, but made me incredibly tired
so i did not have the good feeling of alcohol and on top was just tired all the time
so i said fuck it and so far (5 days in) stopped drinking
surprisingly enough, no physical or psychological side effects (im build different lol), despite me doing it for idk 5 or so months at this point
>Weed is probably safer but again its gunna make you a bum. Pick your poison
i take the safer drug then until i can start living in this dogshit ass world without
what do you mean it makes me a bum, financially?
i am already not well off, but at the pace i am drinking weed is less expensive surprisingly
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>>76636493
thanks for your input, it is actually kinda uplifting
>I wish weed was legal where I live, the street weed varies so much, can't be arsed to buy either straight up psychedelics or just some poor ass weed which you have to smoke half a gram in order it to do something.
i agree, back when it was illegal i never got my hands on it because i do not want to approach some random junkie on the street and ask for drugs, thats sketchy as hell
but ever since its legal and you can just buy it at the pharmacy and shipped to your doorstep i tried it and i like it
i know i won't be able to come off the alcohol without something else to numb me so i thought i stop alcohol, vape instead and eventually, if i am possible, i stop vaping weed and just rawdog this dogshit ass existence
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>>76636469
Alcohol fucks up your sleep the entire time your body processes it and your sleep is the most important part of recovery and being prepared for the days to come.
Weed makes you docile and complacent, which fucks up your future.
Alcohol is bad for the gainz, weed is bad for the soul.
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>>76636498
Alcohol addiction isnt beaten in the first few days, its beaten in the weeks and months when the boredom kicks in. You were addicted to alcohol because of lifestyle most likely. Boredom, stress, loneliness.

I was as bad as you if not worse and it was because I was living alone and had no outlet to socialise at the time so drinking filled the void

If you want to stay off the booze you need to work out why you feel the need to self medicate. In these instances I usually look at the usual suspect which is loneliness.

400ml of alcohol a day is really bad. You will get really bad depression and brain damage over the years so make sure to stay off it now. Youre likely addicted to alcohol nwo meaning if you started drinking again youll find it hard to not slip back into the routine of drinking everyday. So stay off it for good
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>>76636505
>actually kinda uplifting
Just keep in my brother that daily weed smoking ain't good for you either, perhaps leave the weed only to the weekends or something. There's a quite heavy correlation with daily weed use and some extreme mental health issues. It's certainly not good for one's health. I know plenty of people who have struggled with weed, to the point they've had psychosis or just ruined their life in other ways.

Try to focus on the issues which make you want to smoke weed or drink everyday.
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>>76636514
However last night I had three beers and walked the 2 miles back and forth instead.
The walking must've engaged my parasympathetic nervous system and started the rest-and-digest process which helped out it seems.
It's a once-a-week sort of thing, I go to the bar with boomers and shoot the shit and eat some pizza. Only one slice, didn't want a heavy meal.
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>>76636469
both are bad but alcohol at that dose is probably worse
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>>76636469
Alcohol by a factor of 10 trillion

t. neuroscientist
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>>76636469
Alcohol by a long shot. Not even the same ballpark
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Not OP, but it's wild how every anon here unanimously agrees that alcohol is not only worse than cannabis but also by a long shot.
Meanwhile in my country cannabis is illegal with severe prison punishment and at the same time alcohol is legal and everyone 40+ is a borderline alcoholic. So weird.
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>>76636636
same here (shitaly). Weed can be very bad don't get me wrong, but boomers here demonize it to a ridicolous degree while getting shitfaced on booze every week
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>>76636469
I tried all kinds of substances, the only one that make me feel good are caffeine, MDMA and speed. Weed? Makes me sleepy. Alcohol? makes me sleepy. Coke? I'm kind of active for 30 minutes tops then I get sleepy. Phenibut? It used to make me feel great but it doesn't work anymore.
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>>76636684
Just to properly reply to OP: alcohol is objectively worse for your fitness life and for your life in general. I'd rather smoke a joint a day than drink a pint a day.
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>>76636684
have you tried shrooms or LSD?
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>>76636711
Yes to both, I liked them but I'm not a fan of hallucinating. I'm normally super chill so I like it when something gives me energy with no immediate "side effects". I've heard of people seeing things with MDMA but it's never happened to me, I just get more social and I feel like doing stuff. I might have some legit mental issue I need to get checked lmao
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alcohol kills your liver
weed kills your lungs
both kill your brain cells
choose
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>>76637055
I choose life
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Weed. It turns you into a bitch
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>>76636469
I wouldnt even start with weed that shits gonna make you gay bro my homie went from being the straightest guy you ever met to dressing up like a girl and jerking off for who he thinks is old ladies on the internet.
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>>76637081
That's Discord and porn, not weed
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>>76636469
Alcohol.
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Personally I think weed is worse because of its demotivating quality. Yes alcohol directly fucks with protein synthesis and makes you more estrogenic. But alcohol is also kind of motivating in the sense that people who go out and drink have a reason to try to look good because they are austensibly talking to girls and shit. The weedcel becomes complacent in his socially isolated routine and typically loses all motivation to work out entirely. Weed is also a literal appetite boosting drug so its going to make most people fat as fuck. If you are a skelly mode with no appetite I can see it being good for you though.
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>>76637084
No im not even fucking around we would be gaming all night just talking about life and the first time we went into his moms bathroom to smoke a little bowlski bro would start feelin me up and shit yo. Thadly now got new buttcheeks and some of the nicest tits ive ever seen, shits tragic. He still has a beard so he can keep up appearances but he legit yo looks like a supermodel at the beach when we go to smoke a joint and remember the times when wed go hang out and play video games and call people n word and fuck the same girl and slap nuts sometimes and laugh about it.
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>>76636469
weed will turn you into a burnout that can't remember anything and has no personality. It's fun for a long time. Hell, it's fun even once you've realized what it does to you. That's why it's dangerous. It's insidious. If you can smoke once or twice a week and maintain that, then I think it's okay, but many fall into a lifestyle of getting high too frequently and it has bad outcomes
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>>76637139
>weed will turn you into a burnout
Alcohol will turn you into an alcoholic.

I've never seen someone shitting their pants blackout stoned from smoking too much weed on a bus in the middle of a weekday like I've seen with drunks.
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>>76637110
>people who go out and drink
what is this, the 1930s?
People drink at home, doing shots with their favorite internet friend-simulator.
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>>76636480
Yeah daily alcohol consumption is way worse for you than daily weed consumption. Alcoholism takes much more a physical toll on the body than weed addiction.
But you should not get addicted to either, of course
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>>76637151
True, but your bro that's 32 years old and lives with his parents working a shitty job with no future prospects absolutely must unwind with some weed after a long day working at rent-a-center, and he will never come to terms with how shitty his life is because smoking a little weed makes things seem bearable for a while
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>>76636469
>1/2 bottle of whiskey every day
Absolutely insane that zoomers think that this is normal but then act like smoking half a joint more than once a week is a degenerate dangerous unhealthy addiction.

>>76636480
This. Edibles all the way. Smoking or vaping anything is bad for you.
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>>76637055
>weed kills your lungs
what about edibles
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>>76637113
You slapped nuts together while fucking the same woman and you think its the weed that made your friend gay? Kek
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>>76637162
smoking deepens the voice. It was the one redeeming quality of the weedcel
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>>76637155
Tike to go to the fuck festival maybe ill meet my wiyfe dancin there, shell liyk muh hootenanny swing n muh square dancin
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>>76637162
Vaping in the true sense of the word means you are using precise heat to vapirize thc while limiting the amount of plant matter being inhaled
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>>76637161
Yeah thats the trap with weed. The addiction is mostly unseen or not as dramatic looking as alcoholism. But if you dont control your weed intake you can absolutely turn into a burnout stoner loser.
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>>76637173
None of the frickin vapes get to a high enough dang temperature son
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>>76637162
Weed definitely takes longer to get out of your system. Alcohol is a day or 2 weed is at least a week until you feel straight again. You take one hit of this shit and tell me you dont even wanna fuck me at all. You must have one of the highest tolerances to this shit in all of history because im already high but all i can think about is boobs balls and benis.
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>>76637184
If you are using a handhelp vape this can be a problem. Because of the size you are limited. If you want better hits, go with convection, if you want better flavor go with conduction. Some do both. If you get one sits on your counter for not too much more than a lot of handheld vapes then you will get fat tasty hits.
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>>76637168
Youre bound to slap buts at some point what do you mean ''I'm'' gay youre pulling shit out of your ass.
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>>76636469
Alchohol is definitely worse but weed is really bad, like way worse than people think. It PERMANENTLY, and I mean PERMANENTLY damages working memory. It also damages other brain processes, but those come back when you quit weed, but working memory NEVER EVER comes back. It also
>gives you severe long-term gastro-intestinal problems
>causes extreme heart damage, and I do mean extreme
>radically increases the risk of a stroke
>disrupts the body's endocrine system, causes a hormone imbalance and gives you gynecomastia
>causes significant weight (fat) gain
>is expensive
>wastes your time
>can cause schizophrenia or a psychotic break
To all the weed faggots out there that say "but it isn't habit forming, I can stop any time" Ok, so stop then, retard. Oh wait you can't, because it is indeed addicting and habit-forming. The real answer to alchohol vs weed is you certainly should not be a chronic user of either, but a little bit of one or the other on special occasions is not going to kill you.
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>>76637213
I mean doesnt alcohol raise testosterone though if used sparingly? Same with weed. Might be because i lived a healthier lifestyle once i started drinking and weedqueering was done while working and in college, and alcohol would just make me feel tired and like shit because i was eating unhealthy barely lifted did cardio when i could slept like shit and was stressed all the time since its either study between classes and for 30min then go to work just to smoke weed. College is for queers the same professors giving me a hard time woukd be eqting at the place i worked at fuck those stupid inbreds i could be better at math than them within one month if i was gay enough.
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>>76636469
alcohol is inherently worse, empty calories, damage to your liver, the way it drags your IQ down to that of a retarded toddler and often has you do stupid regrettable things, hangovers that get only worse with age, etc.

With weed, smoking it is bad for your lungs and yeah smoke enough of it with high enough THC and you'll also make stupid mistakes but it's nowhere near as bad as when you're completely wasted. I've never been so high that I decided to cross two sets of trains tracks separated by stagnant water, or pulled my dick out to piss in the middle of the street.

Being high can lead to bad lifestyle choices like staying up until whatever AM playing video games, eating bags of slop, and watching slop on youtube - but you can just as easily get into those bad habits when sober as well.

At least with weed you still have a few active neurons that allow you to at least think about doing the right choices, when you're drunk you're basically on autopilot.
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>>76637213
>>gives you severe long-term gastro-intestinal problems
>>causes extreme heart damage, and I do mean extreme
>>radically increases the risk of a stroke
>>disrupts the body's endocrine system, causes a hormone imbalance and gives you gynecomastia
>>causes significant weight (fat) gain
>>is expensive
>>wastes your time
>>can cause schizophrenia or a psychotic break
Almost all this is true of alcohol as well
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>>76637206
What do you mean they all go to "430" and cost a small fortune. Theyll get you retarded high at first but then its just coughing a lung out trying to get stoned from anything else or spending 100 dollars to get high from edibles.
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>>76637255
If i smoke all day i stop getting high no matter how or how much i smoke. I think tolerance is a different issue
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>>76637173
sorry but I don't trust all that made in china mcriplastic technology built out of radioactive recycled scrap metal.

Only air in these lungs, I get fuckin blitzed on edbiles though. It makes cardio and lifting even more fun.

>>76637200
>take one of puff of the Jazz Cabbage
>high for a week
are you sure that's weed you're smoking there
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>>76637265
I just get bored of it and forget to smoke to be honest. Like any drug it tires me out throughout the day even coffee just burns me out and i dont feel like doing anything.

Alcohol is easily the best for me, what kind of square doesn't have a mixed drink with breakfast? It just makes the day more exciting. Maybe im just retarded but i dont get creative without drugs at all. Being sober feels inherently cucked unless youre taking some time off to make sure you arent fucking yourself up.
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>>76636469
I wish I had never smoked weed. It made me live in an eternal present and my future suffered for it. I fucked up social interactions, like fumbling a girl flirting with me because I was too stoned to behave like a normal person, or just shutting myself off from forming friendships with people who do more than just sitting around getting high. My physical health has been affected, my lungs and short term memory in particular. Gooning is too pleasurable while high, too much time wasted for the nut instead of delving into hobbies. Even now that I've severely reduced my intake and go months at a time without, eventually the need strikes me and I honestly don't think I'll ever shake it. Lastly, having a stoner persona is lame past 25 and pathetic past 30.
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>>76637266
Do you even inhale? I used to have to trim coins and suck dicks just to get one snip off a nug and i had to make it last too.
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>>76637329
Find me one good bisexual orgy worth a damn where they arent all buttchuggin and smoking weed with their ass.
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>>76637213
>gives you gynecomastia
Is this true? I smoke weed. If I ever grow tits (as a man), I'm ending my shit desu.
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>>76637391
almost none of what he wrote there is true
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>>76637213
>>radically increases the risk of a stroke
Decided to check up on that, just as a sample of the stuff you wrote
>0.23% of US citizens get a stroke
>weed increases your chance of a stroke by 20%
>so weed smokers have a chance of getting a stroke of 0.27%
Wow, it's literally nothing lol
Can't be bothered to fact check your other stuff, but I assume it's the same nothingburgers.
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>>76637471
also
>smoke weed
take edibles
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>>76637471
>Cant be bothered to fact check anything else
>because hes a chronic weed smoker hes aware of most of the other side effects that he gets
>probably has permafucked bubble gut
>anxiety
>probably refuses to go to the doctor because weed 'makes him better'
>doesnt want to admit to doctor hes a chronic weed smoker so just suffers in a permanent cycle of weed smoking
>cant get out
>gotcha bro
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>>76637523
>I don't take drugs, I argue online for 16 hours a day - I am straight edge. Also I drink 4 beers everyday.
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>>76637526
I dont drink, checkmate, mate
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>>76637529
ah so shitposting on 4chan 16 hours a day as a NEET is your poison
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>>76637433
cope, weed addict. It's true, and you don't want it to be because dude weed lmao. Grow up.
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>>76637629
Says the guy whos arguing with people about why weed is safe but when I hit back (wasnt the original weed post guy) you get butthurt
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>>76637629
You're here too, anon. We're all here. Welcome to the cool guy zone



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