Worth listening to I mean
>>76637075GOAT. way better than any of these new faggot fitness influencers on youtube.
>>76637075>>76637091hes worse than a roid user giving out advice. he is a literal dyel who practices his own shit but results show he is wrong but he continues to claim he knows better
>>76637075>Worth listening to I meanNo. He seemed all right but then I look at the video length and it's like 1:05:29. If I was watching to hear someone talk maybe a little fitness advice would be a bonus.
No one is worth listening to, just fucking lift bro
>>76637106He’s a natty in his 50s, what do you want from the guy? He’s trained other people who have had success and I’ve learned more from his rants than any other source.
>>76637075His knowledge is spot on that can’t be questioned but his videos are often long and not well edited and he seems like he has some mental health issues idk
>>76637118Based.
>>76637075Only a tiny percentage of what i learned about lifting i learned from him. Most notable i remember is him saying a weight is a stimulus untill it's not. That might seem like a dumb sentence, but sometimes sentences need to be dumbed down for the masses to understand it. Means you don't have to chase the next weight every time; nor does it mean you need to take it easy. Most niche youtubers (i count lyle among them) have at least a couple things you can learn.
>>76637145>complaining about a mentally ill man ranting and raving while dishing out A+ info on his field of expertiseGo back
>>76637075I listened to a ton of his stuff a while back while cubiclemaxxing in my wage cage and while I mostly agree with basically everything he says at a certain point you’ve heard it all and his angry ranty way of speaking just gets kind of grating. If I ever do a serious cut I will use him as a resource though, as his dieting info seems to be a cut above everyone else.>>76637145I’m pretty sure it’s on the record that he is bipolar.
>>76637075GOAT
>>76637075I dont really care about him that much, i only watch him and revival fitness because they take a dump on kike israel, doucette, that one failed nerd wannabe leanbeefpattyhoe etc
>>76637137>He’s a natty in his 50s, what do you want from the guy?Ive seen natty 50 year olds bigger than him. Does that make him wrong or do you want to stop using this kind of bullshit argument?
>>76637208I didn’t make the argument that being DYEL makes him wrong you did. Him being dyel in his 50s has no bearing on his info and he himself said he just doesn’t have it in him anymore to go heavy and hard now.
>>76637221So does that make me right? What the fuck are you even talking about? I dont know a single dork that follows his dyel advice beyond beginner stages
>>76637221>>76637208Why is it a meme that he's DYEL Mcdonald ? He never posted his physique. The closest thing to a picture of his frame that exists is from a powersharting event with 5 pieces of clothing on
>>76637237There’s loads of pics of his physique out there
>>76637237>He never posted his physique.There are lots of pictures and also videos of him working out. He looks like any other regular skinny old dude doing random shit at the gym
>>76637189le epic smart skiso like le nigger cattle man xd
>>76637250>>76637257Am i retarded, i couldn't find a single one
>>76637075His books on fat loss and nutrition are some of the best on the subject.
>>76637118and why would I listen to you
>>76637075If you're natty and plan on staying natty there's no one better you could listen to.
I rhink his knowledge is top notch but as other anons have said he shpuld edit his videos because he's a rambler. The issue is he is constantly looking to be validated judging from his constant reminders of "I said it before everyone else did" and him often interupting people.It's funny (especially concerning dr kike) but also a little sad, it alienates critics
>>76637075>>76637091>>76637137>>76637145>>76637189>>76637198>>76637202>>76637221>>76637237>>76639074Lyle stop posting here it's fucking embarrassing you're 50 years old no one respects you. Maybe if you ever lifted a weight in your life someone would.
>>76637075>be DYEL McDonalds>give slightly better advice than Dr. Israelitelephone>look more walled than Aubrey De Grey meets Liver KingDamn, if the bar for "influencing" is that low, I might as well just start a channel telling you Chuds to do 9 reps x3 sets then drink some damn cherry juice, kek.
>>76639175Lyle is too self conscious to critique himself
>>76637075multiple times he has referred to his life being in crisis in 2013 or so before getting better. Does anyone know what this refers to? Drugs/mental breakdown?
>>76639290He’s a TI
>>76639290he is bipolar i think
>>76639448like the targeted individual schizo thing or something else?
>>76639516Targeted individual yesSchizophrenic no
>>76637075He has great knowledge, only comes out of the shadows now and then as an interview.Like he said, you can only say a finite amount when it comes to training and fitness, after that it's just content making for money.Lift heavy, eat clean and rest enough.The gains will come.
>>76637075>worth listening to?Yes, unequivocally. I have learned more useful info from Lyle’s books and videos than any other bodybuilding source, except maybe Arnold’s encyclopedia when I first got into it.
Lyle is smarter than all of the fitness "influencers" in the industry. You have to go to actual D1/pro strength or endurance coaches to get better practical information.
>>76637075Most of what he says is accurate, but it's pretty much all just conventional wisdom that you could find anywhere else, minus his unnecessarily assholish delivery. I also find it funny that right-wingers in the fitness sphere made him their champion, while Mike Israetel is their arch-nemesis. Meanwhile Lyle's an insufferable "Thanksgiving is evil" SJW and Mike's on record as a self-described libertarian.
>>76640580No one venerates him as a person. He's right about things that are in his wheelhouse. That's the extent to which we care about him. It's conventional information now because he was right about it 20 years ago. The reason you go to Lyle and not dudebro plagiarist is because you want to see what it's like without any tweaks or editing that invariably distort what that originally was.
>>76640580Mike is a jew who goes on tangents about sex and black dicks. What noteworthy things has he done?
>>76637075he's legit and his facebook group is pretty good
>>76637075He and Mike Israetel are two mentally ill men with physiques no one would ever want to have who release 2h long videos about shit no one cares about. You can learn more effectively about what they claim to teach by watching Dorian Yates and Lee Haney explain their own methods.
>>76637075he doesn't pass the physiognomy check
>>76640602>jew Who cares? >talks about black dicksWhen? In my experience nobody talks about black dicks more than /pol/niggers and other terminally online alt-right fags. If ya'll would stfu about black dicks, I could go years without hearing about them.
>>76640597>No one venerates him as a person. He's right about things that are in his wheelhouse. That's the extent to which we care about him.See, now I could actually respect that. I also think Lyle gives better lifting advice than Mike, even though my political views are closer to Mike's. But that's just not true. Ya'll absolutely do venerate him, and most of you don't even seem to be aware of his political views. So I just find it really ironic.
>>76640876His essentially creating the meta of modern natural weightlifting is an achievement. It's not that we put him on a pedestal it's that he's so alone in being right it just looks like it. I couldn't give two shits if he's an alcoholic dog fucking zoophile that's not something that affects the veracity of his work and criticisms of exercise science. Sure it's distasteful and I wouldn't want to hang out with him but all anyone cares about it his fitness related information.
>>76637075Hes not bad, about 60-70% correct which is about the best you can ask for these days. None of these people are going to be 100% right about everything they say. Double check what they say, try the advice out and see if it works for you, and see if other people are saying similar things. Most of this stuff you can try out in a regular gym over a period of 9-12 weeks and see if it works for you. Track some data points, be dilligent and consistent.
>>76640868reddit is down the hall and to the left
>>76637137He's a bitch, he freaked out at Rippetoe claiming no one could make that fast of progress. He's just your wussy over cautious loser type.
>>76640535Haha. What a buffoon. Those trainers are the worst of the worst.
While I’m on his side, I think his beef with Israetel is cringe. It seems like in every video I watch of his he brings up Mike’s lack of a tan or some argument they got in years ago. I think he has good advice but he comes off as catty and insufferable
>>76640919>about 60-70% correctAccording to who? You and your idea of what's right or wrong? Midwits like you are a diamond dozen
I like him, but also think every criticism he gets is justified. He talks for 20 minutes when asked a simple question and gets mad people don't follow. Also, he has this weird form of autism where he refuses to improve his production quality because "he doesn't care enough" but will pump material through Solomon.
>>76641193>a diamond dozen
>>76641041>niggers>fagsYeah, I'm such a le heckin redditor. You got me.
>>76641386Immediately after calling you a midwit too. Poetry
>>76641386it's a doggy dog world bro
>>76640910Yeah I mean we agree on the concept of separating an expert's opinion on his field of expertize from his opinions on other subjects.But let's not pretend that's what most ppl /here/ are doing. They're just not aware, and they'd do a complete 180 on Lyle if they were. I mean you could say a lot of the same things in defense of Jeff Nippard, but he's almost universally hated here and I guarantee it's solely because of his pro-BLM spazzout.
>>76637232Trell BankstonTNFElijah MundyClark Kent
>>76640910>I couldn't give two shits if he's an alcoholic dog fucking zoophileI’m new can someone explain the lore
I've never even heard of him before /fit/ started randomly shilling him daily for some reason. Does not seem organic.
>>76642328He got popular recently because he's been shitting on kike israel for years and people only caught up on it now
>>76637075If you don't like Mike Israefail, then you'll love Lyle
>>76637075Lyle is an OG, and more autistic than any fitness creator too have ever lived. His books have been providing the foundation for the lifting communities for decades. I've been pirating his content for nearly 20 years. He's the man, he's just not down(too old) with the modern grift, contemporary style monetization. But know this. Lyle is correct, shit hasn't changed, dudes have been getting jacked for a long time and the principles haven't changed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lji2W2b-bNsit's rather long watch but this is is all essential info if your goal is to build muscle. also could be simplified into pic related
>>76637075just about the only guy worth listening to
>>76641386>>76641815Case in point, the midwits in their full capacity
>>76642328>>76642335That's because you're newfagsOl' McDonald was big on bodybuilding.com and original /fit/
I knew Lyles private youtube during his first uploads and he humped his dogs.
>>76643252grok, is this true?
>>76639290Lyle is bipolar and goes full grandiose narcissist like Mike when he's manic. That's probably why he despises Mike so much - Mike's behavior reminds him of the worst of himself.The biggest complaints/criticisms against Lyle are these:1. He's an unapologetic asshole2. He allegedly wanked his dogs on video but nobody wants to share the videos for us to laugh at so who knows3. He was an endurance athlete (skater) but even with his 1000 IQ he failed to properly turn that intelligence into a proper endurance training protocol for himself and never won shit (just like Mike) - blames his genetics for his failure (just like Mike)4. He does stupid shit when he's manic (he literally bought a strip club and ran it into the ground due to his retardation and went dead broke because of it)5. The malignant narcissism - he raised $10k or some shit for a dog's surgery and to this day acts like he saved the entire fucking planet because of it
>>76639290>>76643873Oh the crisis was him being full manic and buying the strip club and losing all his money.
He's pretty great at talking about what actually matters in lifting vs what doesn't matter. He's a successful coach so he has insights into the human factor and what can lead to motivation and what can lead to disappointment more than most influencers do.- Setting yourself up to work out consistently over long periods of time with as few injuries as possible is important. - Setting yourself up to eat decently over long periods of time is important- Using large amounts of effort for each set to where your bar or machine slows down significantly is important.The details about how you set all this up for you changes from person to person, but the fundamentals are the same.
