Fraud Generalno source talkfor Australians, ask on the https://ugltalk.is/ fitness forum. Not sure for others, but no source talk here. I seriously hope you keep your stuff out of reach of children and roommates (aka you're mum, fucking loser)What are you on?how is it?Thread question, at what point does TRT just become a cruise?
Does anyone else get metaphorically paralyzed from so many choices, and not know what to use?Clen, Anavar, Anadrol, Tren, Deca, test only, dianabol etc. so many options
You don't need a test base all the timeThere's nothing wrong with running dbolYou don't need to blast and cruise if you're not a professional bodybuilder, get a more fulfilling lifeBloodwork is not necessary unless you know you have an underlying condition, just listen to your body
>>76640050terrible advice
>trying to make up for your dogshit genetics with massive doses of testYou're not seriously trying to tell me YOU can't get big on dbol and primo, right guys?
I want to start a cycle for olympic weightlifting and weightlifting in general recreatively once i have more free time next year to start training like an actual maniac.What should i do ? Stanozolol ? Anavar ? Should i just go through russian lists of banned athletes and blast what they blast.
>>76639850test deca dbol adrol, pretty simple
>fucked up the dosages on my first cycle award
>>76640418>StanozololWill ruin your ligaments and tendons. Just start with test and go from there
What does everyone think about potential shortages? I'll be honest, I'm a little spooked now that test is slowing down. When it was just Primo and Mast I didn't give a shit. When Deca disappeared I got more nervous. I'm sitting on a couple years of BnC but I'd hate to have to get raped by a clinic for trt+. At least the peptide spigot ain't ever getting turned off. My hope is the chinks are so greedy that they keep plugging away at the game.
>>76641221all raw manufacturing came from the guy who brought you fentanyl and hes currently not in business anymore, it will obviously get figured out but probably not any time soon
what happens to acne scars if you take steroid guys, derm told me to not take steroid and it will make it worse but i believe he is wrong and it could heal them. should i ignore him? he is paid by the state so i dont know if i can truly rely on it... when i ask other doctors they tell me they arent derm so they CANT answer that question (they refuse to). yes i retardmax but i need fraudian answer
>>76641221My urologist sells test for similar prices as domestic UGLs and the blood tests are cheaper than independent labsDown side is they tend to want to talk about why your e2 tested at 0, free test is 1200 and total is 3-4k
>>76641383Your urologist’s tests are cheap, like UGL prices, but they’ll poke at weird results (like 0 E2, 1200 free T, and 3-4k total T). So, you get a deal, but also an unwanted chat about your numbers. It's a mix of convenience and interrogation
>>76640418Winny is for cosmetic look and like anon said is dangerous if youre lifting heavy. But it gives an amazing look if lean makes your fibres twitch and spaz like joe asthetics kind of. Its an amazing drug for when you are near end of cut and being careful how you lift etc but damn nothing beats the look it gives you without changing anything, throw in winny and within two weeks you will see fibres twtiching everywhere.
>>76641269> payed by the state> tells you to stay small> wants you insecure > stops you from getting better > stop you from pussyAverage statefagg. Don't listen anon, you know it'll help, I know it'll help, the state wants you miserable and ugly.
>>76640050Wow way to shit up the thread early, fucking retard
>>76641269if you have scars do microneedling and retinol (also spf), they will fade after a while. remember to read how to do it safely before starting
>>76641473thank you, this is the push i needed are you related to god?
so... in many countries they sell testosterone in pharmacies No prescription required.how quickly testogel rises total test from like 400ng. and can you overdose on tesetogel, so that test rises up to 2000 ?is there any downsides using testogel short periods like week or two, if hemoglobin is normal (hematocrit too most likely) and blood pressure too relatively normal
Would a 5ARI + AI combo like dutasteride + arimidex make for a worthwhile test boost?
>>76641674This thread is for people who actually take test, not faggot ass gels that don't work
>>76641728Not at all. Whatever test boost you get is just on paper. You won’t actually feel better or be more anabolic. Contrary to popular belief, estrogen is anabolic and DHT helps you make gains too with its CNS effects
>>76641885i dont take either. but gels do workanyways, is it possible to overdose on gel and how long does it take to reach, lets say 2000ng/nl levels? is it possible to reach such level with gel usage?
>>76642180dunno about gels, but i don't see why applying more wouldn't raise your test higher. and, no, you don't overdose on it. is that even possible? ive never heard of such a thing. using it for a week or two is pointless. it'll drop your natural production, and it takes 4-6 weeks for the exogenous test to saturate and receptors to adjust to accommodate. it will take further months for your body to adjust things such as sleep, brain fog, and six months to fix erectile dysfunction
>>76642046Yeah, that's what I assumed.I don't really know where to take this question other than /fraud/, but I already posted last thread that my E2 has been borderline high (38.7) now I've done my hormones after starting dutasteride, however, it shouldn't really boost it by more than 20-25% meaning it's definitely already been above 30.I've always been a volatile overemotional bitch with great skin, and I was wondering whether those are actually symptoms of high E or just regular mental illness and genetics. I know I'm missing SHBG and prolactin here.Bonus question: Asking for a friend - his levels are T 487/E2 10/DHT 450 and he feels like shit, could it be the opposite in his case? He's also been taking MK-677 for about 2 months now and he's a redpilled smegma male retard so he won't even consider the possibility that it's been making him gradually feel worse or fucking with his hormones.
>>76639846I’m currently waiting on the results of my bloodwork. If I actually am low T and get prescribed test, take it with HcG, what are the logistics around it? Do you just take it forever? When you stop do all the gains go away? Can you just take HcG to get your balls working better? I am new to this world.
>>76642211ok thanks. but dont the gels have super low half-life compared to injectables? so in a way, it would make sense that they start work much quicker. like already within days
>>76642268make sure you check both free and total test at least. trt alone (at least injectables) while they will raise your total test only within normal range (so no above 1000) they will raise your free test typically more so. so while your bloodwork will show your'e within your normal range, you actually much more potent. and your free test even on trt are much higher than they would naturally ever be
>>76642276There is other stuff on the test, it’s for thyroid and some other things but I think both are on there, picrel is the last time I took a test like a year and a half ago.
Injected 500 test, 400 EQ and 300 deca todayAsk me anything
>>76639846>, at what point does TRT just become a cruiseThe moment it makes your test levels above the nominal range
>>76640395Dyel hereWhat's the side effects of dbol and primo?
>>76641269It's going to get worseIt's one of the most common side effects
>>76641394>>76641383E2 0 can be really bad
>>76642389What tests you do to keep your health in check?
>>76642270just because it's in your blood doesn't mean you're body knows what to do with it. your body needs time to adjust to be able to use what's available. you can front load (take more at the start) to get that process moving sooner. thats why people like taking orals in the first few weeks to skip that wait time altogether. feed one process while the other catches up
>>76642389atta girl. twice a week?
>>76642389who hurt you
>>76642541Like a full panel? CBC, CMP, E2, free test, total test, shbg, progesterone covers most of the basesJust for health is usually lipids and an occasional blood pressure reading Regular cardio and protective supplements are important, should go without saying
>>76639846Is it easy to get steroids in Korea?
>>76642526Gains
>>76642615Everyone, may as well get huge
>>76642618>protective supplementsLike what?
>>76642622I got TRT from the Seoul international clinic in Itaewon
>>76642389ok so deca helps your joints and is lest estrogen causing, right? what's EQ do?
>>76642389Would make sense to cycle without test, but with EQ?I don't want my hair to fall
>>76642742NAC, TUDCA, fish oil, coq10, d3+k2, berberine There's probably more
>>76640395this is from 1947, they were completely natty and just jacked from fighting germans and japs
>>76642752I wouldn't. Would crash your e2. Always a test base and add ancillary compounds to it.
>>76642268>hcgjust pin test first before adding that in
>>76642526gyno and hairloss, pin deca
>>76642747turns you blood into soup
>>76642526dbol turns you into a womanthe only side effect of primo is gains
>>76642752just use RU and dut and pin test. EQ only cycles can work, but the large ester means it takes a very long time to saturate, meanwhile your E2 will only keep dropping. if you can find it, boldenone cyp is a better option.
>>76642747Strength and gains without a lot of water retention, better cardio, better pumps and vascularity, enhanced appetite, when properly dosed it behaves similar to AI so it's possible to run cycles with it when you otherwise would need AI for e2 control, mild enhanced aggression, focus and mood without the insomnia of trenCons are part of the reason it makes cardio better is it increases RBC count which at some point makes cardio worse in addition to causing high hemocrit and blood pressure, it can crash e2 if your ratio of aromatizing compounds to EQ is not high enough, sometimes it lowers appetite and the AI effect can be individual as wellGreat for lean vascularity without a ton of weight gain from water retention Most people fuck up their e2 and say it is horrible, gave them anxiety, got them injured, but that's very much a skill issueIt also makes your cum taste like horse cum, but that's both a positive and a negative
>>76643219>taste like horse cumbro?
>>76642618Why the progesterone?Also wouldn't you need to measure prolactin since you take deca?
>>76643075Why? The point is to enhance testicular function while the exogenous testosterone suppresses it, correct?
>>76643846Good catch, I meant prolactin
>>76643915because fuck you
>>76644043Is that your weekly dose? I assume not since you said you injected all that today?What's your deca upper limit before you need caber?I just started npp myself and only got p5p on hand not caber so curious to see how far I can take it.
>>76640050>You don't need a test base all the timeI think this is a correct statementThe recent obsession with TEST BASE WITH EVERYTHING from reddit looks weird>Bloodwork is not necessaryI disagree>just listen to your bodyOnly applies to an experienced juicer. A newbie doesn't understand what's the body "telling" him. You need to know how your "feelings" correlate with your actual blood panel
Plotting my next cycleThe main compound will be EQ, I liked it. For the T ester I'm on the fence. Last time I used test P, but I fucking hated pinning T eod. What are better alternatives that I can pin at least twice a week (thoughts on sustanon?)? What are other good esters?Also can I run an oral (I like tbol) for more than 6 weeks? I want this cycle be 16 weeks and just 6 weeks of an oral seems too little
>>76644064Technically it's a frontload doseSomewhat individual but around 400, can be as high as 600 or low as 200One key detail is usually e2 has to be high with it for high prolactin to give symptoms
my source was out of cyp 200 so I had to get cyp 300how much worse will the pip feel? obviously going to cope but just want to know what to expect.
Should I run test while cutting if im a fat fuck? Want to get muscle asap.
>>76644250about 50% worse
>>76644480If you want, but only a cruise dose is neededYou'd get more benefit from a glp1glp1>test>hghAll three work well together too
>>76644517Glp1 is helping but want to gain at least some muscle
>>76644517What about glp1, test, hgh, and primo
>/fraud/:>"guys is it possible to overdose on testosterone gel?">serious forums:https://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/index.php?threads/bloods-after-8-years-on-tren-non-stop.166266/
>>76642805Thank you mate
>>76643120>if you can find it, boldenone cyp is a better option.I can find literally everything where I live
>>76644062Nah, fuck you
Hello sistersHas anyone here looked into or maybe even had experience with microdosing shit like coke or benzedrine before working out or doing martial arts training??I wageslave in healthcare and my schedule is fucked and time for training and recovery is pretty limitedand I’m just wondering what you guys think in general about whether it actually helps or if it’s just me being retarded
>>76644625Based
>>76644517GLP-1, Test & GH is the holy trinity of getting lean.
>>76644984what if I cant afford gh
>>76644613Probably overkill, really depends how fat you areimo better to run a higher calorie deficit, get to a decent bodyfat quicker then start at legit blast if you want to be more jackedyou won't die though, just waste some moneytest is only there to let you run a higher deficit and be done quickerCould you eat just at or below maintenance and lose fat while gaining muscle on some extra gear, sure but its far more complex and prone to errorKISS
>>76644986then don't use it?frauding isn't for the poors just fyi
>>76645007I have to lose a lot to get to a decent body fat %. Over 80 lbs. gonna take forever . Thought I could do something in between
>>76644986Mk677
>>76644986It's like .88 per IU. That's like $2.50 a day if you're pinning 3 IU. Under $80 per month.
>>76644984DNP
>>76644083Test enan or cyp, don't like blendsRun oral as long as it feels good. Could do 6 weeks on, 4 weeks off, 6 weeks on
>>76644250Shouldn't be any pip. Nothing crazy about 300mg concentration
>>76645157>tfw live in country where it's 20 per IU
>>76645474Buy from China, they make it all anyway
When am I gona feel “on”. 300mg test Enanthate. It’s been 4 days, why am I not jacked yet :(
should i try tirz or reta first
>>76645796Reta if you can source it. Burns fat as well
>>76645759Never probably, 300 isn't even babbys first cycle sizedCongrats on shutting your nuts down for barely more than trtThis is why you don't listen to youtubers and zoom zooms about PEDsTLDR anyday now bro, it's about to make you into a complete beast, ong. don't worry and try not to fuck any trannies, no cap
>>76644898It’s you being retarded most likely why not just use a shitload of caffeine?
>>76646033Nobody listen to this retard.
>>76645796tirz is better on average for appetite, ret isn't worth the price
Injected test for the first time yesterday. JFC I've never been so itchy in my life, how do I make it go away.
>>76639846what would happen if the average guy started taking 400mg of test and worked out sometimes? he's not a fat fuck to begin with.
>>76644625>serious forums:I laughedWhat kind of web 2.0 bullshit is this
>>76644625>all those drugs>free testosterone - 672 (225-725)EhhhWhat?Why doing steroids then?That's not even high
>>76644898>time for training and recovery is pretty limitedYou think coke will help you recover?I think the opposite>>76646067>a shitload of caffeineDon't know about him, but there are people like me who don't get affected by caffeine. It only makes me tired. And I hate everyone who can use it as a literal easy cheat code to get some energy rush
>>76646097He's aboslutely right though
>>76646557“Bro I need a gram of gear to get any results! No these arnt man boobs they are pecs bro!”
>>76646640Sorry Sanjeet, didn't know you weighed 135lbsYeah 300mg test is fine, you'll feel it tomorrow i betHow's the village doing
>>76646903I once dated an Indonesian, and he refused to go hiking or ever leave the city. He HATED nature and parks and trees. He literally grew up ion a jungle village like this. He had to ride a honda supercub for half an hour to get to a village with power to charge his phone.
>>76646640>doesn't know how to quote on chansAnyway, I look like this and I say this
>>76646549>doesn't understand what tren or other anabolics do>WHY ISN'T MY FREE TEST HIGH I'M BLASTING 1G TREN 1G MAST 1G PRIMO 1G EQ WITH 125MG TEST
>>76647387>FREE TESTNvm, I'm blindI was thinking it was total test
>>76647132>HeKys faggot
>>76647393lol all good it's just funny that a lot of people don't realize dht derivatives don't show up as testosterone in testing
So how do you use hcg?Small doses throughout the whole cycle even if it's a long ass one?Or bigger doses just in the last three or so weeks of the cycle (even if it's a long ass one and when you start hcg you're already suppressed completely)?
>>76648325i just take 800-1000 iu split in 2 doses a week, forever :))
>>76639846What happens when you stop roidtrannying
>>76648349you never stop its called blast and cruisedoing 1 cycle and stopping is useless
I feel like I'm cheating the system with enclo and ac262I'm off 2 days for the weekend because I can't be fucked to get up from gaming all day and I feel 0 side effects after a 90 day runI jerked 3 times this morning, so technically my sex drive is higher I guessyou can just run this shit year round with 0 problemsgg, infinite gains
do you guys by ugl sleep meds too?
>14 weeks into cycle>though i was dying on friday>chest pain>shortness of breath>call for an ambulance>qt paramedic said i had a nice chest when she was doing the ecgnot dying apparently, only have pneumonia. should i stop the cycle now or continue? still feeling like shit
