No Oldie fitness / lifting thread? Haven't seen one in a while. Tips, programmes, supplements... For mature peeps 30-99
Pic isn't me - but I do have a home gym with a treadmill.57yo
>30 is matureBruh
>>76643811At 30 your physical peak is behind you, so yes
>>76643818this does not mean "mature"
>>76643825enlighten me oh wise one
Im 30 and ooooohweeee (oldman phrase) this thread is going to be a cesspit of arguments of 18 year olds mocking us oldies about being oldBe civil pals you will be 30 too one day, then youll be old, then youll be dead. Just like us! comparison is the thief of joy, let us geriatrics discuss in peace
>>76643773Not wise to the current meta? 100% of people over age 30 are on TRT+ozempic in current year and barely train at all and still look great because they're frauds.
>>76643835I'm not - I never have and my form's pretty good
>>76643835Post bodypic youngling - I bet I mog TF out of you
44yo reporting inlower back is killing me after a run. have si joint problems that dont seem to go away.found that magnesium and fish oil before sleep give me halocinogenic dreams with incredible good rest.will focus on mobility and stretching the next few weeks.
>>76643935Nice. I take magnesium too - it helps with cramping. Creatine helps with muscle aches after lifting - and recovery too.
>>76643943yes yes creatine i use too. and zinc and boron. also curcumin against inflammation.currently experimenting with taurine and l arginine. absolutely no effect - disappointing. wont recommend.
>>76643947I found taurine to be useless too.
>>76643835>100% of people over age 30 are on TRT+ozempicNope.NEVER use anything that you will be dependent on, like TRT. Never.If you never turn into a hambeast in the first place, then you will never need ozempic.
Finna bouta be 41 in a week no cap ong. Anyway some shit's good some shit's shitty, it is what it is. Have had low back issues for near 20 years now but nearly got them sorted. Started having some shoulders issues 6 months ago, deadhangs have mostly alleviated it, but still a bit of weakness or just feeling weird in some lifts. Oh well.Also my hair is very thin and stringy and about 40% gray, shit sucks but what can you do. Probably gonna shave it this weekend (got long hair right now lol).Any of you old fags take collagen peptides or whatever? Been thinking about trying them out, though I could just eat more gelatinous connective tissues. Y'all ever had braised cow's feet? Shit's fucking delicious.
>>76643773>peepsplease jump into a trash compactor
>>76644099Make me ya wee shite
>>76644097Collagen seems like a scam industry Your body produces it naturally
Thread has barely started and oldfags are already seething and insecure kek
>>76644222It's the testosterone
>>76644244the lack of it yeah
39Weigh the same as when I was 17, since then nothing has changed, still a scrawny SEA, albeit I am way more fit cardiovascular speaking.Doing cycling and running.
>>76643818I think musculatarity (is that a word?) peaks at about 32 (but that's your last peak).
>>76644327Do you have any tight daughters i can breed
>>76644333I am a wizard or what they call incel since that shooting.Not only my weight and body have stayed the same, but also my mind.
>>7664377339 checking. Have been lifting since I was 18, currently fittest I've ever been. No reason to get out of shape. At some point time does start to take its toll but good diet and exercise go a long way. Current supplements:Pills:Natural dessecated bovine thyroid (i had hypothyroidism), mushroom complex for brain clarity, DHEA, spermadine, GABA, and l-theaninePowder:Magnesium and creatine in electrolytes. Collagen powder in coffee
>>76644319>the lack of it yeahI'm good mate 57yo
>>76644410I lifted from 20s to 40 - then stopped for 10ish years - then got it back. I wouldn't have been able to do that from zero at 40 but it worked for me.
>>76644319Test declines as you age, but not as quickly as it has declined per generation. Even as an old man I'll still test-mog you zoomer and gen alpha faggots. You've all been domesticated by brainwashing and endocrine disruptors since before birth.
Almost 33 and still attract zoomettes since zoomers aren’t even fucking nowadays lmao
>>76644556>Sees meme charts perpetuated by other oldfag incels on here>Keep spewing it left and rightKek i'm sure you "mog" anyone buddy. You literally have the mind of a teenager female, which is a telling sign that you're going through andropause. Stop being an angry little girl.
>>76644556Test does decline with age - but working the big muscle groups does help - squats & bench pressing. Average T measurements include a lot of couch potatoes.Angry little thing aren't you?
>>76644424>trt skin
>>76643776can we see it?
>>76644567hehe
>>76644590Just old - and a bit dehydrated in the pic. Post your bodypic.
>>76644564Same. I get told i look 20 too. Most zoomers look like my dad yet i still fuck their sisters kek. I am 6'4 btw
>>76644592Treadmill is folded up on the right.pullup frame and multigym on the left.
>>76643773what else can i do to keep my joints healthy and arthritis free into my 40s and up besides lots of water, glucosamine and protein containing proline lysine etc. stretching and massage?
Age 39Pic is at the end of my cut about 4 weeks ago I think, I was 185lbs… now up to 193lbs on my 6 month lean bulk (weight went up too fast initially, but it will level out, aiming for a pound a week for 20-24 weeks)Always having little injuries and issues, getting old, in January I’m going to start using hgh, 4iU per day for as long as I feel like… it should also help my cut into next summer as well I should think Been getting deep into gear research and pretty much set on doing a cycle in a years time, probably 500mg test C per week and hgh alongside
>>76644709Losing weight helped me - I lost 25kg and my knees got much better. I stretch before treadmill and weights too.
>>76644743When I started to get frequent injuries I lowered the weight and just did more reps. Practically the same pump. Last year I dislocated my wrist - it looked awful and took 3 months to get back to where I was.I've never done gear - I don't like the whole shrunken testicles thing. There is a new generation of NON anabolic steroid which is at I think primate testing stage now - if it works out I might try.
>>76644829I have already done that, working 5 sets of 10-15 these days on compounds, if I add weight I drop the reps back and work up until I’m doing sets of 10 or 12 again For accessories, which I don’t do much, usually do 3 sets to failure but that’s not usually heavy weights or risking injury Worst one is the inflamed si joint which comes and goes but always prevents any decent progress on squats, gonna try a few rounds of bpc at some point soon and maybe 6 month of gh will help
>>76644853What about doing deload weeks?I do them every 5 weeks - half my program with half the sets and half the weight.
>>76644862No but I definitely should
>>76644878It lets me recover fully and I always come back stronger.
>>76644890Yes I’m gonna start,What stops me is that it always feels like (because it is) I’m chasing my old strength and can never get there, or even close to be honest, and so resting and deloads feels like more backwards progress than I’m already making
>>76644078>NEVER use anything that you will be dependent on, like TRT. Never.You don't have to inject or use crappy androgel anymore. Scrotal testosterone and oral enclomiphene combination therapy can get you well above the 99th percentile without suppressing testicular function. I'm at 290 pg/ml FT right now with higher LH and FSH than when I started. I was off for several months when I moved to a different state and my levels were slightly higher than baseline by the end of it.It won't be long before there are non-suppressive injectable options as well.
>>76644743Pic now at 193, +8lbs
>>76644906I still do the treadmill on deload weeks though - just watching tv on projector - just roll out of bed and do it. They are so cheap now about €$80.I got an ac unit too - so now I have no excuses.
>>76644911What kind of long term research exists on any of that shit? None.Unless there's a legit issue with a dudes t production, you're a fucking idiot if you're taking that shit with normal levels for your age.
>>76643773About to turn 30 and I have a bad habit of getting fit, binging and gain up over 30lb before going back to the gym (165-->215-->185lbs from early July till now)What is a low commitment routine that I can pick up when I don't feel like going to the gym? I've been doing calisthenics and minimum 11k steps a day, just need more lean protein in my diet.>inb4 discipline, no one cares how you feel Yeah, yeah.
>>76643818performance wise, possibly, but it is different for everyone. bodybuilding wise, your peak is mid to late 30's, then you decline. current olympia #1 and #2 are a couple years from 40.
Unless you are a pro athlete you will see very little decline in your performance until your mid-40s.
Woke up at 4pm. Did pull ups and a 6 mile run. Will do kettle bell swings a fuckload so I'll be xtra strong for the asian massage parlor
>>76644744yeah i feel you, i've weighed between 72kg and 90kg in my adult life and i felt best somewhere around 75kg. but i wanna mog too so for the near future i'll try to stay around the top of the range
>34 very soon >got the body (5’7, 80kg nattymaxed)>got the car >got the decent job (6x before tax)>got the fake friends to keep up appearances>got the condo>got the fashionable clothes>got the hair transplant >got the sports car (ok not really but it’s a i30. It’s decent)I did everything right. Everything since 22 grinding. Noticed what’s missing?I should have listened to the blackpillers. They were the correct ones, doing everything right and “making it” doesn’t give you shit if you’re average face manlet like me. I mog majority of my peers on income & social circle alone yet I can’t even get a date. I can’t even get Indian or Asian girls, I live in a state where even 6” is not that tall, I listened to redpill bros on here for years tell me it’s not overBut all I did was bury my head in the sand. Looks DO matter, a lot. Now I’m greyer and uglier, balder, and sadder. If I listened to the blackpill guys at 22 I would have saved for LL or some surgeries, hell at least a head start. Take it from a jaded defeated boomer, looks determine this shit. I know, I wanted the roomers to be wrong so bad but it’s trueGodspeed to you all. If you’re under 25, focus on getting pretty/lean and keeping your looks. Everything else is a big fat COPE
>7664377338 years old, no supplements, it is all snake oil for idiots, being promoted by roiders who get their results from roids only and they DGAF about truth or honesty (given a fact that 90 percent of them lying when asked if they are roiding).Just try to eat as healthy as possible but do not avoid junk food or alcohol. Heavy smoker too. But have abs and will try to carry it over winter season, gonna be tough.Not having kids or nagging wife also helps
>>7664407839 here, the problem with TRT is that it cannot increase free testosterone, it seems like nothing can increase your free levels
>>76645589>TRT is that it cannot increase free testosteronefalse, just asked AI
Kekke larp thread btw
>>76645501Gotta get those girls through college.
>>76645549Yeah it's tough out there for the younger ones - ever considered taking a big risk? Or do nothing and nothing will change?
>>76645549post body? cant fathom you being ripped and rich and that much of a dork
>>7664554931 and in same postion as u except no blading or Grey hairs and I CAN get an asian or indian. Im sorry but u are doing something wrong if u cant. Even at 5'7. Not being able to get asians cuz ur 5'7 is far fetched but an indian? I dont beleive thats the reason for one second. That being said dying alone is better than resorting to them. Asians have no personality and are bad people while indian girls smell like BO
>>76646269This, I want to see either way at this point
>>76643818Test doesnt start dropping until late 30s normally. Not everyone has balding, thinning and gret hair either.. My dad is 60 and not one Grey hair or balding
>>76644743Why would u do gear when u already look good? Just do no fap, increases test by 45 percent(ask AI, its true). Why shorten ur lifespan?
>>76646300I just want to feel it, Imagine how you feel with 5x the natural range of test, and the igf-1 levels of an 18 year old
>>76645549The problem is you grinded away your youth. Should have done a gap year in SEA in your 20s if you desired sexo, or done a year of peace corps if you desired something more than sexo, or just backpacked in Eastern Europe for the fun of it.I would rather have good memories of my 20s than good finances in my 30s. This is how a human being thinks and have thought for millennia, capitalist society is a scam, don't conform to it.
>>76646466Does this mean getting unwanted erections again?I don't want them back - I'm on a bus FFS!
>>76645549Yeah post body and ye shall be judged - and maybe get tips
>just started lifting at 40It’s not over tight
>>76645549Are you Indian or some sort of brown?
>>76646666Checked and it's never over.
>>76645549I'm 90% certain that you were my boss at work a long time ago and you were an absolutely abhorrent piece of shit narcissist retard. You even had a shitty "sports car" back then that you tried to brag to everyone about. I choose to believe that it is you because it makes me happy that you're suffering.
>>76646819not unless he had doll hair
>>76644222>now listen here sonny
>>76644424Mmm daddy
>>76645549i was you, less money, less friends, 5'5, no sports car and still found someoneget gud. less complaining more grinding
>>76648629Er sonny?
>>76648967work or
Night of the Reaper 8/10
>>76644359holy fuck 39 and incel what keeps you going
What can I take to stop my knees making clicking sounds?They don't hurt
>>76643935>Warm up with ACT>Foundation training >McKenzee strech during the day
>>76643818ronnie coleman only started winning mr olympas after 30................
>>76649892Look at him now though.
>>76644564unfortunately for me it's impossible to get zoomettes as a bald mani might have to settle for women my age (derogatory)
>>76643818Strength athletes usually peak between late 30's to mid 40's
>>76644219>Collagen seems like a scam industry>Your body produces it naturallyWhat does your body produce it from, anon?
I let myself go and now I'm program hopping like a mf. Such is life.
>>76650267All is not lost. Walk to burn off fat. Control your calories -prioritise quality protein. Lift with effort.
>>76645589What in the fuck are you talking about? Is this a bot post?
>>76645549You should punch the single mother, that obviously raised you to be such a beta male, right in the mouth.
>>76646300>(ask AI, its true)
>>76646476>would rather have good memories of my 20s than good finances in my 30s.t.poor people
>>76649892>ronnie coleman only started winning mr olympas after [taking huge amounts of steroids]...ftfy