>>76645992
For the most part, no. There's been a couple of occasions, but they never go anywhere.

>>76645992
No. They do smile at me more when I make eye contact with them though.

>>76645992
No, lol.
They make more eye contact, I think because I look more imposing? I've made some neck gains

Wouldn't know, I am fat and still get mires.

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>>76645992
This looks like gif but in female form

When I was fat I had more chicks approach but that might have been because they thought I was a dumpy looking lesbian.

>>76645992
It made zero, and I mean ZERO, difference in my dating life. Only difference is that prosties now sometimes compliment me.

>>76645992
In real life? No. On the dance floor? absolutely.

i just can't get passed the issue that /fit/ is passing on their body that they were born with and not what you become

>>76645992
not a single woman has ever been interested in me, romantically or otherwise

>>76645992
i lost 60lbs and suddenly every girl went from treating me like i'm invisible to being really nice to me

I was an attractive kid and got a lot of attention from women ages 18-24, including women approaching me forst. Now I'm 30 and on steroids. I still get attention from women, but the type of women that like jacked bald guys lose interest in me pretty quickly because I'm autistic. My quiet, unassuming personality was more attractive to women that liked me when I was a twink.

>>76645992
>act like whores for the camera
>a guy actually comes up to them and they immediately freak out
Women are so stupid

>>76646036
Anon, do you think the club is not "real life"?
It's a different sexual zone than the street or the supermarket, but no one there is really being fake per se

Being not-fat pushes you up from completely invisible to women to them acknowledging you exist, even if it's just to smile politely when you or they enter the same room.

For women to actively approach you IRL, you gotta:
1. be top 4-5% of men in your environment. this is mostly based on looks, but social proof (appearing 'popular' helps out greatly too)
2. come off as approachable, as uber chads are imposing/scary for some women

And even then, I wouldn't count on women actively approaching you everyone unless you're a microcelebrity or something. Even the most ripped dudes at the gym mostly only talks to the same chicks they already know

>>76646076
>Try to attract hot charming men
>Ugly awkward men approach
Men are so stupid

>>76646091
what hot charming man wants a club bitch those guys go to college and have careers while not sleeping around. Lower and middle class Chads, who are usually just handsome and lack inhibition due to having an IQ of somewhere between 70 and 99, are the types they're actually trying to attract and they just pump and dump
>as they should

>>76646208
>bro you don't get it, not having sex makes me hot and charming!

>>76646089
>uber chads are imposing/scary for some women
this is my problem sadly...

>>76645992
Women mirin? Almost daily. Hitting on me? Mostly faggots and trannies. Jokes on you, im a bisexual with insane libido and im fucking everything that gets on my path

>>76646214
hot charming men would be married... I didn't say inceldom is hot and charming I said these girls don't get hot charming men they get Chad with intelligence on par with the flying Hawaiian and attract weirdos. These women, who all have IQs sitting between 85 and 105, are too delusional, ignorant, or just straight up to stupid to realize they're being lead on or simply objectified for their looks nothing else

>>76646227
too stupid* sorry I realize the ironing

>>76646226
Lol imagine being an actual faggot and pretending the joke's on everyone else.

>>76646225
Unironically same.
I'd convinced myself - with the help of /fit/ - that I wasn't really attractive, but recently found out that girls consider me to be 9-10/10 in looks. With this new perspective, I'm starting to notice more and more girls glancing at me, and I kind of understand why they're often bashful when I try talking to them.

>>76645992
Fuck yeah. Mirin stories thread?

So I’m in the gym, and I’m doing zombie fuckers, when this skinny twig of a pt comes up to me and tells me that I’m not doing them correctly, she then lies on the ground and starts doing the, to show me how to do it.

Now I didn’t ask for her help and the only way at this point for me to simulate how she feels is to place my body over hers as we bump the floor.
The boys only stop laughing when I get off of her and resume my work out of the smith machine.

Called into the office and he asks me to come go I will don’t get have do you know want anything to go eat and then go we’ll go to pick you you up.

Arrive at the pt girl house later that night and ask if she’s home, she says no she is washing her hair so I let myself in and wait get her.
Now the problem is her girlfriend is there and is trying to flirt with me.

>31
>haven't had sex in 11 years, never had a gf, bascially hooked up with 3 mids in one years 11 years ago, before and after is a desert
>past 2 years started getting attention at a ridiculous level after I got over 170 lbs..
>dont have it in me to ask them out, ive been alone to long
>dont have anxiety(heart rate normal) and can make conversation with them and everything goes well and they are smiling and blushing but always just end it and go away
>you cant possibly understand why I can ask them out, u have no idea how bad ur brain warps from the extreme loneliness for an extreme ampunt of time, the human brain wasn't designed for this, whatever mental illness this is psychologists who went to a shitty school for 2 years cant possibly have anything constructive to say about it
>starting to get really depressed about it
If u have a kid, and u see him not getting girls(and not being a fag), try helping him. Talk to him about it. Brainstorm.. No one in my family cared. No one of my freinds ever commented about it, u would think they would at least make fun of me. I dont deserve to be cared about, but maybe some other incel does. Just care and talk to him about it. We are holding it in and pretending its not eating us apart. We are losing our humanity. We would help u if u were in trouble, why do u ignore us?

>>76645992
Teenage women are cringy as fuck. Sure, they are hot, but cringy nonetheless

>>76646089
Bros I was at a wedding party last night working as a cameraman and lots of girls were givng me some eye contact but when I looked back or came close they acted like divas and ignored me, whats up with that?

>>76645992
It's happened twice in 3.5 years. A lot more than zero in decades beforehand though.

>>76646272
you are way too stuck on your brain being ruined forever. if you actually brought home a drunk chick and fucked her i am sure things would get better from there. i also thought it was no way in hell i would manage to have sex with a girl again after 10 years of sitting in my room alone but it happened, was awkward as fuck but just waking up with someone next to me and talking to her etc made everything easier from there

>>76645992
>Did women start approaching you and miring you after you got /fit/?
Yes. I went from completely socially awkward nerd who got 0 attention to actually being approached by women quite a lot. But to be honest, I'm not sure if getting /fit/ was the major contributing factor to that. Aside from getting fit I underwent some very massive changes in my life, including changing my hair/beard, the way I dress, and my overall confidence and body language, etc.

Also, I think it's extremely important to note that I was very lucky that I am a genetically attractive guy (tall, good face, etc). Women only approach an extremely small percentage of men (like 1 to 5% or something?), so for the average guy, getting fit is not going to change anything.

But yeah, if you are a genetically attractive guy like me, but you've wasted that potential on being a fat nerd with hair and beard like a hobo and clothes bought by your mom..., then getting fit might and changing your style is probably going to make a huge difference.

>>76646272
I feel for you bro, but to be honest it sounds like your main problem is your own victimhood mindset. The only thing that can ever bring significant change in your life is taking personal responsibility, and you are currently doing the exact opposite.

no, I only ever got approached when I was a super skinny pasty tall white shut-in. Since "improving myself", my prospects have dwindled.
Good.

>>76646441
How did u get past that barrier. I know what u say is true but the years keep passing by.. also i have never seen a attractive women at a bar in my area

>>76645992
I got absolutely zero attention from women until one day I randomly decided to shave my beard and keep the 'stache. And somehow, it clicked. Now I get 'mires and compliments everywhere I go.

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>>76645992
Yes

>>76645992
damn
i want to fuck a barely 18 year old gen alpha so bad now

>>76645992
No, I only go to work and spend the rest of my time at home. I have a home gym, so I don't meet women there either.

>>76646272
My parents would make fun of me when I told them that there were girls that I liked. It was just some light teasing, but it really embarrassed me and put me off of relationships entirely. I was very popular in middle school and high school, but I declined every girl that hit on me. 33 years old, have never touched another human in my life aside from handshakes and family hugs.

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>>76645992
I don't get to clubs and other normie shit, so its wives of friends and my niece, sadly that's verboten.

>>76645992
Yes. It was years ago (35 now) but basically 6 months after I started to work out women I knew started to be overtly flirty with me and got jealous if I came around with another woman.

they do, but I don't know if it's because I'm fit or just generally attractive. This girl I'm talking to said I'm hot and cute and girls at restaurants or the gym smile and are talkative. I will say that finding myself in Christ and building my faith has helped a lot too, just with confidence and over all satisfaction in life

Yes, but I don't give one fuck about those thots because I'm gay af. I don't even notice them most of the time.

One started talking to me at the gym. Then she got to know me and friend zoned me

>>76646857
This doesn't ever happen if a woman wants to fuck you. Words don't exist in nature, so any random combination of words in a language we artificially decided to get it a meaning has 0% influence on how attractive you are for a woman.
It's all looks and nothing else.

>>76645992
>approaching
fuck no, if i want it i still have to jump through the same bullshit hoops every other guy does
>miring
yes, i catch looks and shit that are much different from when i was 260+ now that i'm 200 with a better body comp. cashiers get flustered, women laugh at shit i say that isn't that funny

>>76645992
Yeah, young ones. Girls my age? Rarely.

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>>76646035
Same except it wasn't a prostie, it was an older Thai woman for a one night stand. I'm pretty sure I'm vocel now

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I started working out at 16 so ive been visibibly muscular for longer than I had the balls to start doing stuff with grills(17).

But yes. I assume its helped me a lot. Ive had lots of opportunities and experiences, women approaching and showing interest, and I assume part of it is because im fit because ive also gotten a lot of compliments.

Im 30 now and its more important than ever. Most men my age have let themselves go and it really differentiates you.

>AI sloppa bait

Should you just throw in the towel if you're in your mid 20s and it still hasn't happened yet? there's no way this is natural. It's way more likely I just have some kind of combination of genetic defects that make it impossible for me to go there. I'm tired of the gaslighting whenever the topic comes up, I just want a straight answer. If I got permission to finally give up, confirmation and validation that I'm not just crazy, it might finally put my soul at ease and I could maybe move on with my life to other things and whatever peace or happiness I can salvage from the wreckage.

started lifting + cardio + diet again 6 months ago, made gains quickly, 35, above average muscularity, naturally wide shoulders, good face and beard, still slightly too fat. since I've gotten in better shape
>catch girls mirin' at the gym fairly regularly
>a few times hot girls at my gym have even found excuses to talk to me
>don't go to bars too often but when I do it is a regular occurrence for women to cold approach me - I can specifically remember 7 occasions but there were probably more
>at crowed bars women have unnecessarily brushed their tits up against my body a few times as they walked by
>women have been more receptive to me, romantically and in general (better eye contact and smiles)
>have caught women mirin' in public a few times too (gas station, airport, beach etc)
>fwiw also, Asian prostitutes have fawned over my muscles (and penis) but I wasn't seeing them before I got in shape so I can't fairly compare that to before lifting again
Before I started working out again, stuff like this almost never happened. Now it happens almost daily. For me it didn't take long but it's the difference between having the body of someone who clearly does not work out, and someone who clearly does - plus fairly good genetics

>>76646035
Keep larping. Either you arent as jacked as you think, fat, skinny or a giga manlet.
Lifting can make a huge impact.

>>76645992
You can't just be a fit male and expect to be approached because that still puts you as a 7/10 which isn't enough for most women.

You need to actually be VERY attractive (tall, lean, really nice face) for women to actually approach you and the thing is they're so bad at it that if you have autism you'll never be able to tell if they're being nice or actually want you

>tfw lift for health and confidence reasons, but not attracted to gym girls because they're mostly promiscuous and vain
>also don't want to be with someone who's only interested in me because of my muscles

do cute, homebody bookworm girls like /fit/ guys?

>>76645992
Yeah. The difference was night and day.
>fat average height
Invisible to women
>get lean then hit growth spurt get to 6’2” and end up extreme skinny
Had women staring at me, hitting on me a lot but was too shy
>start lifting get to the point I looked like I lifted with clothes on
Women became more out going, had less staring but had women actually go out of their way to talk to me and hit on me, flirt with me etc. Got laid easily here.
>start bulking
The second I got to like 18% it all stopped. I was a retard and let the bulk go too far, then got depressed and diet went to shit got fat again. No longer invisible because tall, but am now in creep mode.
All I care about is getting lean again. Not even just for pussy life was just easier as a whole. It’s like playing Skyrim on legendary difficulty vs adept. Ones insufferable and you did it to yourself so you just deal with it (or turn the difficulty down…) the other is manageable if not a cake walk by comparison so long as you’re not a retard and have some experience. Fighting Alduin (job interview) is either super difficult and you’re likely to fail, or you’re familiar with the fight and it’s not even that bad you know you’ll most likely succeed and if you don’t you’re sure you got it on the next try.

>>76647228
Survival* not legendary

>>76647195
Yes. You should give up and leave the gym empty for better men to workout in peace,unobstructed by hordes of weak delusional men.

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Never seen it if they're not gl + it has quickly diminishing returns. A muscular ugly/average is still invisible
I think you should specify how muscular, because retards here seem to think you're either fat or a roided ogre

>>76645992
If women don't approach you, should you approach them?
I keep seeing those claims that men and women don't approach each other any more.

>>76645992
It was so much easier when you're constantly around women.
In high school even as a shorter pretty boy, I got all my gfs because they approached me.

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>I wasn't attracted to the women who have approached me
>the women who I have crushes on act like I don't exist

is this life as a man?

>>76645992
I really need to build up my arms, surely that will help with mires.

>>76647383
You always should, anon. Even if you are attractive enough to actually get approached, the amount of women that actually approach you is a very small % of the total amount of women that are attracted to you. Most of them just passively wait and hope to get approached, or use "I want a man to be traditional and approach me" as an excuse to cope with their own approach anxiety. If you do not approach women as a man, you are literally going to miss out on 99% of women that are interested in you.

A lot of them try to find some middle ground though. So for example, they don't actually "approach" you as in that they start the conversation, but they will move closer and closer to you when you are at a bar or something, and then they hope that you will say hi when they get close enough.

>>76647428
no this is life when your standards dont align with your sexual market value

>>76647428
That's actually a good thing. If you were actually ugly or mid, then the ugly women wouldn't be into you either. Even ugly and mid women go for attractive men. That's the nature of hypergamy. So if you DO get attention from women, but not from the most attractive women, that probably means that you do have potential (genetically), but you are currently doing something wrong. Maybe you struggle to find a good style (haircut/clothes, etc)? Maybe you are very nervous and socially anxious? You have bad body language and presence? Whatever it is, it means that you DO have potential and that your problem IS fixable. Again, if you wouldn't have potential, then you wouldn't get approached by mid women either. I've had a very similar thing going on in my life when I tried to go from awkward fat nerd to taking care of myself. I had this in-between phase where I started getting attention from mid women, but the attractive ones kept acting like I was still a loser. Also, milf were into me before the really attractive ones were. For some reason older women have an easier time seeing through the awkwardness and falling for your genetic potential.

>>76645992
>approaching
No
>miring
Yes

>>76647113
>if a woman wants to fuck you
I literally fumbled a 22 year old girl I went a few walks with because we talked abojt some things we disagreed on. Stop spreading bullshit

I’m white and the only women who hit on me are non-whites. I hate it.

>>76645992
No, I had the most women approaching me when I was twinkmaxxing during the 00s.

>>76646089
>reddit spacing virgin
Didn't read anything you said besides first line. No the club is not real life. If you actually think that then you are probably like 21 and will wake up and realize what I mean at some point.

>>76645992
yes

>>76647537
>oh no big booty latinas and cute asians want to fuck me, how horrible

>>76647530
If you're attractive enough she'll literally just agree with your point of view on everything and if not it would be easy to convince her to change her mind.
Women literally adapt their views to the men they want to fuck

>>76647113
Is this what black pilled incels actually believe?

>>76647439
Time to learn to be charismatic and get rid of the anxiety of approaching women.

>>76646272
this but im 28 and finally found it in myself to stop being a fat ass.

>>76647461
>but you are currently doing something wrong.
My presentation is fine, my clothes are fine, my haircut is fine.

I think my main problem is passivity. Honestly, I never really learned how to court women or anything like that so I just sort of coast through life and somehow magically expect to meet the love of my life despite not being on any dating apps, not having an active friend group, and pretty much only leaving the house for work

>>76646552
holy shit, same anon.

the "getting teased about hanging out with girls when you're a kid" to "never having a healthy relationship as an adult" pipeline is so fucking real.

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>>76647197
you live in a place it's legal?

>>76647551
So she wasn’t attracted enough, got it

>>76647197
How tall are you?

>>76647605
No but there are a bunch of Asian massage parlors in my region, I'm pretty sure they all offer "extra" services but one in particular is well known for it. The first time I went there I got a blowjob (they ask you to take your clothes off then if you leave your underwear on they say to take it off too so it's p obvious. I eventually just turned over and paid extra for the sucky). Every time since then (like 3 or 4 times) I fucked them for $200 just saying that's what I wanted from the start, no massage.
I know it's part of their job but you can tell when they are genuinely attracted to you. One of them had a look of pure ecstasy on her face as I was fucking her missionary. Another was constantly moaning and squirming on my cock as I fucked her from behind, and complained when I paused briefly.

By comparison there was another time when I was a little drunk and not as hard and it was easy to tell she was giving fake pleasure moans to try to get me off faster. Anyway it makes me wonder what kind of guy typically goes there and if I am really that much better than them, as far as body and cock. For all I know maybe they don't let just anyone fuck their pussies, like if they aren't attracted they might draw the line at bj or hj.
>>76647659
5'10"

>>76646272
>you cant possibly understand why I can ask them out, u have no idea how bad ur brain warps from the extreme loneliness for an extreme ampunt of time, the human brain wasn't designed for this

I'm feeling this now. I haven't been social in a decade, but I started taking classes now. Even with dozens of people around me, it still feels lonely. The only people talking seem to already know each other and others seem to be there just for class, nothing social.
I'm trying to change this for me, but who knows how it will end up. I just hope I don't get a oneitis or keep dwelling on it if girls don't reciprocate.

>>76647530
pretty sure you're the same guy i keep seeing in all the different threads posting about going on walks with girls and i gotta say bro why don't you ever take them on a real date? this walk thing is clearly not working out for you.

>>76646017
Nah man, that kid is being fucking awesome.

>>76645992
Mires yes, no approaches because my face is always in a scowl because life is fucking awful

>>76647113
Ok. All I know is she was flirty as fuck at first and then shut it down with the flick of a switch

>>76645992
No

>>76646552
Same here. Parents need to encourage crushes rather than shame them

>>76645992
My female boss openly sexually harasses me

>>76646245
So what? I fuck daily and im strong enough so i can beat you, pin you down and rape you, making you a faggot too. Seethe, homo in negation. Some day you will understand

>>76646322
They find you to be a high value man, they are too scared to hit on you (as 99% of women). If you look, you give them your approval, which is what every woman wants because every single one of them loves attention, once they have your attention, they lose interest

>>76648017
You're not bigger than me. I would break your bones.

>>76646552
My mom did this when I was probably 8 and I still remember it vividly

>>76648002
Elaborate

>>76647530
I think this is the actual explanation for the lack of sex on the overall population. Women expect for you to agree on the bombastic parallel universe shit they unironically believe. Even disliking a song its just a dealbreaker for them. I get a ton of matches that go nowhere and thats one of the main reasons. 10 years ago you could walk up to a woman and call her ugly out of nowhere and she would laugh it off and suck your dick. Now its all retarded delusional expectations. Women are getting way less sex, and when they get it, they get pumped and dumped by a guy who put all of his skill points on charisma and makes them feel special about their retardness. Its easy to do that, but its anoying, thats why everyone who does that pumps and dumps. I used to do that and i got into terrible situations, i prefer to get less sex and being more picky about who i associate with. But yea, in general, women nowadays are fucking unsmokable. I strongly believe we are getting to the tipping point where women could go batshit insane about loneliness and lack of attention and get interested in becoming pick up artists themselves. The current situation is insane, even if the woman is shitting their pants for you, she will still act like a bitch and rationalise every single second of it. Its just bullshit

>>76645992
No woman has ever shown interest in me

>>76645992
Dont care cuz I lift for myself.

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>>76646272
I've spent 19 years living with my older sister. She had some sort of hormone problem and it manifested with her being a abusive bitch for my entire life. She hated me right from the start because I snatched our parents' attention due to me being a toddler, then she hated me because we had to share a small room since our parents couldn't afford a better flat, so she was unavoidable. Nowadays she doesn't hate me as we actively avoid each other since I moved out. Fast forward to me being 35, she's a rabid feminist going into schizo rants around our mother and I genuinely can't connect with women. I'm attracted to them, I can even strike a conversation, but my brain just doesn't want to get closer. I'm /fit/, was called handsome in the past, but I've never had a gf or sex and don't plan to.

>be black
>hit on by mostly white and latina women
>black women have done double takes, but have never approached me ironically
>asian women don’t even pay attention to me, which isn’t surprising
Just my observations here in Colorado

>>76648124
Same situation, my sister is 4 years older and I’m 33 now but all you had to do was to ignore your bitch ass sister and mother and start talking to girls and keep ignoring the females of the house, they only want your downfall, unfortunately I’m an incel too because I only had 5 gf’s at 33

>>76648030
So what do you even do?

>>76647794
I’m that guy but it’s already over with her, I worked 2 14h shifts this weekend and got her off my mind and I got attention from hotter girls than her so I’m good now

>>76647685
200 for a fuck is pretty steep
I've paid $100 CAD for full service with a young slim chinese girl at the AMP

>>76645992
They definitely make more eye contact now when I'm rooning or when I'm at the beach. Last summer this girl that had a delicious thicc ass was eyefucking me but I'm too autistic and I wouldn't even know how to approach a girl on my own. Sometimes when I go for a run and it's 35°C I take off my shirt and some girls also say something like "well, hello there", but I always pretend I didn't hear them.

>>76646552
You are literally me, except that I'm 26. It also happened when it came to everything else. Grades, sports, school, hobbies, everything.
They of course keep wondering why I'm such an underachiever. Fucking retards don't understand that their words as parents have permanent consequences.

>>76645992
yes but i dont like the attention desu

>>76647138
Imagine the nork simps if he was actually attractive

>>76647195
you should NOT throw the towel in, retard. i was also a loser and the real gains in my life were recently in my 30s. 33 now.

the excuse of time is always an excuse. it took me a while to realize that myself.

>>76647228
people overcomplicate it but really the way to succeed is to be muscular and lean.

>>76648413
This sometimes when im in the shower i'll stop moving and try to blend into the enviroment so I can do it in public when I need to.

>>76647437
it absolutely does

So let's say you're in a club, you manage to get a girl, you bring that girl over to your place and you have sex.

Now the question is how the FUCK do you then proceed to go to sleep with basically a complete stranger right beside you in your own home??
How isn't this an absolutely insane act from both parties? You have absolutely no idea if that same girl is a junkie or a kleptomaniac or an organ harvester or just a straight up mentally ill mess who will proceed to go to the kitchen in the middle of your sleep and come back screaming with a knife for no reason.
Not to mention that it's even more insane from the girls perspective being locked in a complete stranger man home overnight. And you two just had sex, so shouldn't at least some post nut clarity creep in?

Can any sex haver please chime in

>>76646091
>UMMM WHY DO MEN OTHER THAN CHAD HAVE SEXUAL DESIRES, THAT'S SO SEXIST
Why are womanbrains like this?

>>76645992
Getting muscular doesn't make you more attractive unless you were already chad. You'll either go from women throwing themselves at you to women throwing themselves at you even more aggressively, or from women ignoring you to women still ignoring you.

>>76645992
I'm not even that fit but I've gotten slim and wear good clothes and women definitely have a different vibe than before. Wagie women still treat me like shit though. Almost disgusted by me. Why is it bros?

>>76648674
"Hey I got work in the morning, I got you an Uber"
Done

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>>76648674
we're autistic. this situation wouldn't happen in the first place. When you've gotten to the point of having her sleep next to you you've learn to trust her enough since you were slamming your penis inside of her.

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>>76646272
>Do something repeatedly
>Brain adapts to thing
Example
>Be alone all the time
>Brain adapts to being alone
>Brain thinks whatever neuronal connections are being repeatedly activated is helping in survival
>Novelty is more disturbing than enthusing, more threatening than intriguing
>Neuroplasticity goes down, crystallisation goes up
>Being alone becomes a default comfort and people are nothing more than amusing distractions at best and unpleasant, awkward experiences at worst
>Actually opening yourself up emotionally in a real, intimate long term relationship with someone who loves you becomes such an alien thought that it basically becomes impossible through a self-fulfilling prophecy
>Nobody is permanent

>>76645992
why do women approach so easily if you have a daughter? i always go out with my friend and she brings her daughter. women always happily start talking to me and touching me... i wish it was like that without when i'm out alone. married people have it lucky

>>76646552
My mom made fun of me for liking to watch gymnastics on tv for the girls.when I was like 5.
Now I like to wear dresses

>>76647195
Keep working. Just keep moving regardless of everything. Lions will fight to death trying.

>>76645992
Stupid fucking dancing monkey.

Nothing made me more visible to women than raising my testosterone from the low 300s to the high end of the normal range. I was still the same lanky fuck, but after a few weeks it felt like a switch had suddenly flipped. Getting muscular later helped, but not as much. Some of that will be due to their preferences but I think it's largely the same mechanism, i.e. the confidence boost that comes with being jacked.

>>76646272
Same, I’m 29 never had a gf. Had sex with one girl 10 years ago and been alone since. Over time you become not a well adjusted adult. Over the past year I tried to go to clubs more and brought home 4 girls. Each time, I couldn’t get hard. Being alone for that long gave me terrible performance anxiety. I’ve accepted there’s no hope. I don’t think the answer is continuing to do that either until it works, trauma farming just makes you feel more hopeless.

>>76645992
Yes. I just turned 27, and it's all 18-21 year old girls fiending. All flirty, all heyyyy.
Please leave me alone. You're all too young.

>>76648815
lmao another 4chan incel pretending that the has beat cute college chicks off with a stick.

>>76648815

I'm in my early 30s and these college girls really do flirt hard. Too bad they're all spacy

There's this big wide assed small asian woman that gets me so hard.
We just greet each other but since a month ago she started kissing me on the cheek as a greeting which is what socializing people do.
I look forward to it each time and have been leaning into it a bit more lately..

>>76645992


THOSE ARE KIDS. AND IT'S FUCKING COMICAL WATCHING THEM STRUGGLE TO ACT SEXY....THEY LOOK LIKE FUCKING CLOWNS.

Did women start approaching you and miring you after you got /fit/?

Got fit aged 45. I have the attention of 18-25 year olds like you wouldn't believe.

>>76648924


NO YOU DON'T FUCK. I CAN GUARANTEE YOU , YOU DON'T ATTENTION FROM OLD BAGS MUCH LESS 18-25 YEAR OLDS UNLESS YOU ARE SOME JEW MOVIE PRODUCER...

>>76648943


IF YOU CANT OVER POWER A FEMALE, THEN YOU DESERVE TO DIE.

>>76645992
No. I'm 6'5" and girls are scared of me either way.

>>76648674
It’s normal to kiss, dance and get each other horny at the club before you bring them home or go to theirs. At this point all that is on either parties mind is just sex so you just turn into wild animals and don’t think about lame shit like ‘oh what if blah blah’ . Even if she is a murderer and decides to kill you after, then at least you got to fulfil your biological purpose.


T. Banged over 40 chicks from clubs and bars

>>76649036
If you're constantly getting laid at clubs then it's just because of your face and height, random genetic lottery. Not because of any technique or whatever.

>>76645992
YESS

>>76646514
Lost Generation
January 1st, 1856 to December 31st, 1873
Progressive generation
January 1st, 1874 to December 31st, 1891
Loud Generation
January 1st, 1892 to December 31st, 1909
GI Generation
January 1st, 1910 to December 31st, 1927
Silent Generation
January 1st, 1928 to December 31st, 1945
Baby Boomer Generation
January 1st, 1946 to December 31st, 1963
Generation X
January 1st, 1964 to December 31st, 1981
Generation Y(Millennials)
January 1st, 1982 to December 31st, 1995
Generation Z
January 1st, 1996 to December 31st, 2013
Generation Alpha
January 1st, 2014 to December 31st, 2031 IE still being born
Zoomers got retconned, at least the ones born in 1996, 1997, 1998, and 1999 because mock high school election voters and 18-19 year old voters both favored Hillary Clinton in 2016 55 to 35 and the Neo Liberals in the media wanted to black-pill the 70+ year old White voters that propelled Trump into his first victory one more time before they crooked otherwise those kids born those years would be Millennials on paper too.
>>76648278
They're presuming you have a big dick because Liberal White men usually vary TOO MUCH and are controlling while larping as M'Lady types and Mexicans whether foreign born or Chicanos are usually quite short and have chodes. So if you jump into the former make sure your dick is big and you'll be fine

>>76649173
>Neo Liberals in the media
You should consult a dictionary before you post, monkey.

>>76646035
The entire concept is false. Women do not approach. They demand that men approach THEM as the first evidence that he is not a pussy bitch. Being fit can help you in many ways, but getting women to invert their entire evolutionary programming is not one of them.

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>>76649198
Women do approach men they're actually attracted to, but they're only actually attracted to exceptionally beautiful men. The genetic elite of men.

>>76649190
???

>>76649203
men on dating apps swipe right until they get a crumb of pussy women are delusional and they think dating apps will net them a handsome Chad
>it will but only for a night and he swipes right until he gets a crumb of pussy too
Have you tried not just taking care of yourself but being a cool/good person and meeting women in person? I was just at a wedding, in the wedding party, and the women we were matched with were more nervous and awkward around handsome men then we were around them
>we're from the South shore of Long Island they were from the North Shore
If I wasn't a proud neet who was embarrassed of his family I would've been slaying. I am handsome but short

>>76649212
than* not fucking then son of a bitch

>>76649173
>Mexicans whether foreign born or Chicanos are usually quite short and have chodes
Where are you getting this (and the rest of your bullshit) from?!?! I'm 5'10" and packing the mythical 8"x 6". You're thinking in absolutes and that only applies to Asian and Indian dicks they are small and thin! Watch Jap porn compared to MX porn you'll see.....sushi roll v. burrote.

>>76646272
>I dont deserve to be cared about
anon, you do deserve to be cared about. it starts with yourself though, you need to care about yourself. also, i care about you brother, we are all gonna make it!

>>76649225
Then why are the Chicanas in CO hitting on the Black dude? Have you considered you're just lucky? Also I will refrain from the porn thanks for the recommendation I guess

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>>76649212
>Have you tried not just taking care of yourself but being a cool/good person
None of that shit matters. In fact, "dark triad" guys and guys with low IQ are more sexually successful than normal guys. Women prefer it when you're a total piece of shit.

>>76645992
They started when I became less autistic and more talkative. Looks are just the initial test, but they're useless if you drop spaghettis everywhere.

>>76648309
I dont really know, i just chase the most humble ones to them, if they are blatant attention whores or cock chasers i dont even bother, but thats my choice. The humble ones are scarce tho, and the older they get, they get harder and harder to find (they get pregnant and become crazies with humoungous babbage that overcomplicate things).

>>76648046
Shes constantly grabbing my arms, rubbing my back and shoulders, commenting how good i look, she sometimes makes dirty jokes... the other day i was talking to her about medical permission to get lasik next month and she told in front of me to another female "hes becoming way too hot, we are women so we can grab his ass and touch him because we wont get reported". Im not even kidding about this

>>76648733
Bleak

>>76645992
Nope, I'm just too ugly.

>>76647195
Wait until 30, and then give up.

Yes, but if you're lifting for women you can just maintain after like 6 months or a year. Women would frequently tell me how I looked like I had been in the military and my lifts would be called laughable here. We're talking 185 squat, 165 bench and some machine work and running. Being muscular to women is severely diminishing returns. You get to a point and you flip the "capable of protecting me" switch in their brain and that's it, the only exception being visible abs. Basically get to a reasonable size any man could do in 6mo-1 year and then just focus on abs...this is all women want.

>>76646263

Your best bet is to leave. Don't engage with lesbians, certainly do not sleep with either or both because then they will have proven they are not lesbians, but liars. And liars are dangerous. If they lied about being lesbians, what else are they lying to you about? Consider the downsides and run. Do not pass go. Do not get an erection. Fly you fool.

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>>76645992
>after you got /fit/?

I've never been to the gym.

>>76647685

The absolute state of you retards. You actually think a prostitute is attracted to you. Dude, she's literally incapable of being attracted to you because you're paying her to have sex. The woman brain does not allow them to be attracted to such a low quality male that needs to pay them to have sex.

It's like the joke, "I wouldn't join any club that would have me as a member". She's not attracted, she's just good at her job you ingrate.

>>76648780
women feel safe interacting with taken men because there's the assumption that they won't immediately try to fuck them and that they aren't creeps (they've already been screened by another woman). Of course they are retarded so this also leads to women fucking taken men all the time

>>76649378

Also, even if she gives you freebies she isn't attracted, she's just good at customer loyalty. She's only attracted if she never charges you for sex again! Man you tards need father's who weren't boomers.

>>76649279
But what if I'm a renown pasta chef?

>>76648124
Congratulations, you have mental illness resulting from abusive upbringing.

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>>76645992
>women
Those two barely reach 35yo combined.

No, unless I put on the clown/goofy clothing and act like IDGAF. Then is when they notice me and my gainz. Women are strange creatures.

>>76646444
checked. needed to hear this myself

I've been hiking a lot this summer and have slimmed up to the point where my cheekbones show more ans i am noticing woman standing around me when im shopping to the point of getting in the way. Annoys the hell out of me. Bitch I'm just trying to get groceries not chat up your plain ass.

>>76648017
You get fucked daily

>>76649442
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zef-gcMLqlw

WTF, HE'S BACK !?

Now I can approach them faster at night.

>>76649497
are you successful in doing so?

i too want to be a redditor

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>>76649497
based

>>76648017
You should be careful who you threaten like that, faggot. I'd take a manslaughter/murder charge over being raped any day

>>76648747
Nice post

>foid behavior
>if they give you attention
>it's just to see if you return any positive que
wimmen just want more power to them

>>76645992

Women in their mid 30s and 40s approach/mire more than those in their 20's and teens in my experience.

>>76649290
she hot dude? sounds like a fantasy

>>76649036
>At this point all that is on either parties mind is just sex so you just turn into wild animals
That's obvious, the question is AFTER you cum when you are no longer the horny wild animal how do you now proceed to go to sleep right next to basically a complete stranger?

>>76645998
Pretty much this. Women approaching directly happens but really isn't all that common. The female "approach" is just putting herself in a postion where you can approach her and smiling at you to indicate that it's all good.

>>76645992
yeah. but also before I got fit

>>76645992
Yes. I went from barelly getting no matches on Tinder to getting multiple a day. Then dates telling me that aesthetics are very important for them and that's why they matched me. Also went from barelly getting noticed on the streets to getting random girls to start conversations. Aesthetics matter.

So as a man, you're not worthy of love or a relationship unless your biceps are a certain size?

>>76649378
Forgot to mention one of them asked for my number after the first I fucked her. As I was telling her in my normal speaking voice she told me to whisper (presumably because this is against her boss's rules). I guess that was just an elaborate ruse after I had already paid her and fucked her because she's just that good at her job.

>>76648075
>even if the woman is shitting their pants for you, she will still act like a bitch and rationalise every single second of it.
Yeah. They're encouraged to treat male attention like that between themselves and it's become so hyperbolic that they even act like it's a cute thing to be doing sometimes. Even if you're in a relationship women aren't capable of being kind or having a normal mood on a consistent basis. Being an antisocial bitch is just what they consider normal now. It shows, too, in how so many of them are insisting they're autistic now. They're not fucking autistic; they're trying to excuse a complete lack of empathy and blatantly antisocial behavior.

>>76650099
Yes loser now get curling and make sure you're good enough while young BEFORE you get aged out and filtered.

If you're not black girls dont find you attractice anyways, a white chad will be a 6/10 in girls head while a tyrone is 10/10. Thats why it seems so skewed

>>76650376
GM sar

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I must be ugly as sin because I have never, EVER, felt a mire nor gotten cold approached. My whole life has been a struggle in the dating scene and thus I learnt social skills the hard way. I'm 43 and lifting since I was in my early 30s.
Anyways, water over the bridge as I am married now.
Please stop posting you get mires from hookers for fuck's sake, cringe as hell. How are they supposed to get your attention otherwise? They like you wallet, give zero fucks about your looks. LMAO.

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>>76650381
gm
>>76650406
Same, and im like 6/10, women dispise me
Its over

>>76650456
Jew or interracial porn lover. Call it.

>>76649212
at this point I actually hate most women and they are not attractive to me so my swipe rate actually looks like the female one now

no tats, no alcohol

>>76650376
>>76650572
Shabbat it over, they have free rein over their electronics now.

>>76650572
Cope on

>>76645992
I hate whores

>>76645992
That looks like my country...

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>>76646053
Ita great isn’t it?

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>>76645992
They lose interest when I open my mouth. You can't just lift autism away.

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>>76647685
I’m always worrries the one time I would go to an AMP would be the time it’s raided by police.

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>>76650687
Which is?

>>76648336
$200 is a 10 hour shift for some guys, ridiculous really.

>>76650692
Wtf is that thing?

My suicide is planned in 2 weeks
Be honest do yall think hell exists?

>>76650738
yes but were already in it, so there's nothing to fear.

No. I was a 6'4 skeleton in high school and got zero attention, now i'm 6'4 and jacked and benching 130 kilo at the ending of uni and still never got any attention and now i'm a 22yo friendless kissless virgin. Literally every aspect of my life except social is near perfect, but the loneliness is so overwhelming i'n probably just gonna kill myself when my parents die at this rate.

>>76650746
>we live in hell
>if you die against your will you're just reborn again into this world
>only if you have the balls to an hero you're allowed to get out
finally I truly see

>>76650750
Yeah i held on to this cope, to hold on till my parents died, but i cant take it anymore, im going
Hell scares me but the religious ideas about what gets you in and out of hell seem silly and self biased to serve the religions
I guess ill just see what happens

>>76645992
yes but I think that has to do with the weight loss rather than looking muscularly aesthetic.
I'm cute in the face so there's that.

>>76650762
See you on the other side

>>76650762
if reincarnation is real you're probably gonna end up as some untouchable born in sierra leone.

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>>76650765
I hope we both get reincarnated with a good chad life anon, see ya there

>>76650779
Honestly, id take it above the humiliation ritual that is the jews rape of the west and the white man

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>>76650735
I think is good looking.

>>76650710
SAUCE??

>>76650824
Hot af

>>76645992
If you want some attention, I can give you plenty. Just give me your address and I will be there in no time.

>>76648747
is this pasta? all true btw

>>76646272
Yeah i'm a mid 20s /fit/ virgin, never had any friends. It's like my body rejects the notion of socialising at this point. And it's a catch 22 because the response you grt from people is to pull yourself up by your biotstraps, but you can't really "socialise yourself". I, wish, there was some sort of "social prostitute" thing where you couls hire someone outgoing to drag you to social events and give you positive reinforcement for socialising. Because at this rate i'm going to end up a 30yo kissless virgin with no friends. I am content just going to the gym, work, my hobbies, and back home, while having 0 social life until i die. It's like the part of my brain that is used for socialising is completely calcified. When i see a girl flirt with me i don't get a reaction like "oh yeah she wants 2 fug", no, instead my brain goes "RED ALERT, WTF IS HAPPENING, EVACUATE AREA IMMEDIATELY"

>>76645992
I have broad shoulders and a larger chest so a lot of clothing makes me look heavier than I am. Anyway I met a girl at a party and she seemed completely uninterested in me. A few months later she sees me at the pool with my shirt off and I had her completely flustered.

>>76650738
It does and is worse than this.

>>76646066

Expectations are different - they see you as dominant and you do not deliver.

>>76650738
It objectively does not exist. It's the same as before you were born. Nothing. No brain to process sensory experience. No existence.

>>76645992
>run into ex classmate and her new husband
>she repeatedly compliments my muscles and how good i look
made me extremely uncomfortable, how can you do that next to your husband

>>76650738
Nah
Mine is planned for xmas in public

>>76650762
idk
My parents made me like this ON PURPOSE
It's not like the other anon whose parents didnt care, mine were actively sabitaging me but I thought they didnt care either, until one day for those dumb reason they thought I was having sex and they freaked out (they never talked about sex with me before)

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>>76645992
No.
>be skinny fuck
>aquire gf
>gf gets fired from her job
>takes up gym as hobby
>gets buff
>urges me to join her
>get strong together
she still mogs me (compared to avg of each gender) but I'm happy

>>76647458

x2 - it's like that for most folks

>>76648747
wtf are you my ex girlfriend

>>76649036

Good boy

>>76645992
Yes. My now wife approached me. I’m tall though, with a decent enough face

Question: I moved to another city and I want to go to clubs/bars/concerts but cant find a single wingman
Fuck am I supposed to do?

>>76651352
Go alone, more interesting shit happens that way too. If you find yourself just holding your drink and not interacting with anyone, don't hold it against yourself and keep going until you become more comfortable.
Its the same as going to the gym, only that your gains are social in nature.
And pick places/ people that you will enjoy even without tits , this whole "wingman" thing is cringe and will give you the kind of needy vibe that dries pussy like no tomorrow.

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>>76650835
Kitsune Vane on Instagram. Israeli.

>>76646272
same im 33 khhv lol

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>>76651581
Khhv?

>>76651624
kissless hand heldless virign

>>76646017
holy shit how old are they now? crazy frog was like 20 years ago

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>>76651626
I know a 50 year old like that. Here’s a photo of him.

>>76651639
this fucker got a shit bag on his elbow

>>76651007
You need therapy, Do you have social anxiety?
The mind going haywire like that is a classic sign. And even worse is when your brain shuts down and you cant think of a single thing to say.
Therapy got me over the social anxiety and I feel like an entirely new person, but the damage caused by years of no social interaction is still a major issue for me.
Its a feedback loop
>have social anxiety
>dont know what to say/do
>afraid you'll fuck it up/look foolish
>anxiety increases
You have to learn how to break the loop and pull yourself outside of it.

>>76646552
I'm quite shocked reading this comment and all who replied to it having the exact same reaction. I feel like a pussy for having "trauma" from my mums playful teasing but it actually did fuck me up too.

>>76648345
>I take off my shirt and some girls also say something like "well, hello there", but I always pretend I didn't hear them.
Holy fucking based.

>>76646552
Yeah i was on track to become a normal kid, had a girlfriend in preschool, but my mom, holy shit. One of my first memories is feeling embarrassment and shame because my mom was teasing me in front of her friends at a dinner for having a girlfriend. Just recalling the memory makes me feal uneasy. My parents were both kissless virgins until they got arrange married in their 30s. My dad is a complete non entity when it comes to life advice, mom too. I'm 23 now and never have they ever talked to me about what girl i like, gave me "the talk"... It's like we are a household of asexual amoebae or something. They never said anything, except a year or so ago randomly my mom started complaining to me why i didn't have a girlfriend yet, because her coworkers constantly ask her why i'm single.
The shame and teasing from when i was a kid rewired my brain in some way to associate attraction and relationships with shame. I felt that i had to hide the fact that i had a crush on a girl in my class from my parents. I don't think they even realise what they did, to my mom it was probably just a joke, but to my 4 year old brain it was life defining.

>>76651922
Idk if i have social anxiety, i just find new social situations with a lot of unfamiliar people incredibly draining. Like i will dread and mull over them for days in advance, mentally preparing myself. But in the end i pull through just fine if it's just a group of guys, and from then on it's easier. However, with women i do completely shut down. I can't look women in the eye, unless they are someone i know really well. I can't talk directly to a woman i find attractive, i just try to ignore her presence. Physical touch with women makes me insanely uncomfortable, like if they are giving out hugs before leaving i try to somehow leave the encounter, but that only makes things worse and people think i'm a weirdo.
I never went to a psychiatrist but i know some women who study psychology at uni, and one of them asked me within an hour of meeting me "why are you so afraid of women?" so it's probably obvious to most people.
How would seeing a shrink help? Are there pills that turn you normal?

>>76651993
>My dad is a complete non entity when it comes to life advice, mom too.
yup and now they constantly get on my back about why I'm not married and have no kids. I know they saw the signs when I was kid but they probably just thought I'd "outgrow" it or some shit. The few friends I had were all spastic losers like me, never had a gf or brough one home. But boomers think raising kids mean you just provide for their material needs is all (house, clothes, food etc).
My father never taught me anything about how to grow up and be man. Years later now I also realize he is a doormat and my mother walks all over him. He never once in his life put his foot down and told her no, she would just fight and argue until she got her way.
My dad thought teaching me how to "be man" was when showed how to the change the oil in the car and drive stick shift. Totally useless boomer skills that you can teach a little girl or monkey to do, yet those simple mechanical tasks define what boomers call "masculinity" to this day.

>>76652022
first try and figure out what's wrong. I think you have social anxiety around women. For me I had no problems dealing with new people in professional settings when there was business to conduct and discuss, but as soon as it becomes social I get the vapor lock of the brain you described and can no longer interact normally.
Talking to strangers at a store or bar or something I avoided completely because of the mental discomfort.
Read this workbook then go see a therapist. There's probably alot more than just social anxiety, these problems are seldom isolated to one disorder
https://www.cci.health.wa.gov.au/Resources/Looking-After-Yourself/Social-Anxiety

I only get their attention when I'm on a long nofap streak, those succubi can sense it and I'm pretty sure they want to steal my life energy

>>76652099
>t. day 1234567 of nofap and still cant look a girl in the eye and say hello, but now delusional enough to think they want me even though I'm still an ugly retarded incel.
Nofap is an incel cult

>>76652109
Everytime I failed nopap was because some dangerously young woman wanted to drain my balls empty

>>76652114
>I'm such a stud I have teenage girls trying to suck my dick but I'm still on nofap for life because I'm and incel loser who thinks not jacking will magically give me the social skills and confidence to talk to girls
nofap is an incel cult

>>76645992
They did that before lifting
Now they stopped

>>76652119
>who thinks not jacking will magically give me the social skills and confidence to talk to girls
nofap gives you energy and women can smell the pheromones. If you are an autist or ugly no amount of pheromones is going to get you laid. Some people act like it's a cult, I just enjoy the health benefits and cumming huge loads on women's faces.