Why is upper chest so hard to maintain in old age, even for guys on gear?
>>76646063I mean he's probably not blasting as much gear or eating as much and also the poses are different.I think your brain might be melting from too much Instagram and tiktok bro
who cares, he looks like shit in both. dude clearly just eats cornpops and sausages while he does shrugs and upright rows all day. fat fat fatty
>>76646074Tom Cruise can't maintain upper chest either
Gravity.Next question.
>>76646080He's still got huge traps.
omg how is he still alive with that sword stuck in his chest?
>>76646079Bro is like 60 and a millionaire dude why would he even need muscles at this point in his life
Good question. Maybe they're doing the "wrong" workouts?Like, functional stuff instead of bodybuilding.I'm not sure if it's upper pecs only because I have the same problem, and dips+pull ups seem to fix it somewhat.
>>76646063>Why is upper chest so hard to maintain in old age, even for guys on gear?Dunno man, some can kinda keep it.
>>76646063what do we think of the no neck look here?
>>76646931Sure, the pecs get smaller for some reason, but they keep the shape. This is Draper at 75. I have simialr problems in my mid-40s BUT I haven't hit chest directly for ages now since I'm more into boxing than bodybuilding and boxing doesn't hit the pecs much. So it COULD be just exercise selection.
>>76646063Because you need healthy shoulders to work it effectively. If you lift intensely for a long time your shoulders are just fucker no matter how much pre-hab you do.
>>76646941Franco had a crazy chets in his prime and still a big chest in his late 40s here but it has lost A LOT of size. Maybe it's just discontinuing the juice?
>>76646949It's hard to compare because being bodybuilders, they probably change their workout regimens a lot over the years, so it may still be exercise selection.
Brad Pitt at 61 doesn't have the saggy pecs.
>>76646079>>76646975So we have two hollywood stars in their 60s, one looks shit one looks good. How does Pitt train differently from Cruise?
>>76646975>>76646984Pitt's weight has never fluctuated and he's always been fit and lean unlike Cruise.
>>76647012Was Cruise ever fat?
>>76646984Pitt probably did less training overall. He has a naturally long torso and is 4-5in taller than cruise. He likely gained less mass, muscle or fat, so there is less to sag later in life. Cruise very obviously was built pretty well for a decent period of his life. You can see he had bigger muscles in relation to pitt but that just means more mass to sag as he ages and more already existant stretched skin. Basically being a lean lanklet your whole life and never gaining significant excess mass is the key to eternal youth or atleast non-sagginess.
It's possible to maintain all of your muscle mass and youth even after 50 but adrenochrome is too expensive even for millionaires anon.This is the truth, you are all wrong and gay.
>>76646063Brock doesn't do free weights for starters.
>>76646063Shoulder pain makes it harder to train properly
>>76646063>Why is upper chest so hard to maintain in old age, even for guys on gear?The majority of guys that lift hard will incur some kind of injury over the years, and that will contribute to a change in their physique over time.
That man is the most furor teutonicus aliveholy shit he would be running full logs though roman manipuls back in the day
>>76647380Its kind of unintuitive, ive found that you have to go narrow grip, faux neutral grip, and shove without triceps with prison reps so you dont get out of the pocket. And also you really gotta get elbows rotated inside of the grip. Im surprised i dont see much advanced form discussion here as if theres really anything else to even post about. Anyways you can build upper chest on flat bench and its a lot less risky and you can load it heavier, then fill out the hyperteophy on low incline and work your way back up to upper chest mp because i think thats how you build a shelf/seperated upper chest like brock but im also pretty sure the steroids just lower muscle quality/durability and thats straight up damage vs straitions.
>>76646975pitt has had pec implants
>>76646063He’s probably just not training like he used to. When you get old your joints go to shit and it makes certain exercises annoying and painful. You don’t keep a neck and traps like that without high androgen levels, so it’s not like he hopped off the sauce.
>>76647727He's a Slavic mutt.>Brock Edward Lesnar[16][17] was born in Webster, South Dakota, on July 12, 1977,[1][18][19] the son of Stephanie and Richard Lesnar.[19] Even though his surname is Slovenian, he is of Polish descent,[20] and grew up on his parents' dairy farm in Webster.[21] He has two older brothers named Troy and Chad, and a younger sister named Brandi.[19] At the age of 17, he joined the Army National Guard and was assigned to an office job after his red–green colorblindness was deemed hazardous to his desire to work with explosives.[19][22] He was discharged after failing a computer typing test and later worked for a construction company.[19]>>76646975>>76646984Pitt is A LOT leaner than the others, with A LOT less muscle mass.
>>76646941i think that's all it is. Why tf would Brock hit incline bench? Bench is already a vanity movement with barely any real-world carryover, combat athletes rarely train it
>>76650934Because it makes your chest look better than flat bench does.
>>76646063>People.... age?
>>76649510Before the slavs, poland was prussian
>>76646984Both vampires
>>76649510>older brothersHe already looks as masculine as possible. What do they look like?The more sons a woman has, the less testosterone each is exposed to.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-Y_antigen#Male_homosexuality_and_the_birth_order_effect
>>76646949Franco is off cycle in that picture. That's not "age" that's just him not in prep for a body building show.
>>76646079>mfw
Im 55. My chest is bigger and better now and my bench press has slowly gone up over the year. Inc upper chest. I was a late starter, though, so factor that in. My chest around measurement is 54.5 inches.I think the reason is the shouldrs. Almost all guys over 40 have a lot of shoulder problems, which prevents them from either 1) bench at all or 2) benching with a pec centric/elbows flared grip. Since my shoulders are fine, I can still bench with my elbows flared, which means I get a good deep pec strech and contraction. Somone like Lesnar almost certainly has fucked up shoulders, which prevents him from benching optimally for pec development.
