Do you do them /fit?
>>76654102yush
>>76654102Yeah, hammers, concentration, preacher, reverse grip, zottman, wrist curls... I do most curl variants, I just skip regular curls.
>>76654102no, all curls variations preacher included choke long head of biceps when front delt upholding humerus vertically flexes atop shoulder long head biceps tendon delt must be completely soft for biceps work>and how would u do that? sit on bench sideways and lean entire torso on elbow, then place dumbbell on palm close to wrist and balance it with other hand, and hold and supinate and flex biceps - all good things :D >but hammer-curls are for brachioradialis not biceps, brachialis also if u're after brachioradialis then by all means hold the dumbbel as normal in aforementioned alignment but if u want biceps u don't want to hold the dumbbell at all - switches off forearm >can i just do hammers ? nope, chocked long head of biceps will propagate this jackhammer action to short head and brachialis and brachioradialis as biceps will try to contract but won't be able to hold contraction - time under tension on muscle belly is 0i am not entirely sue though if it's flexing front delt that's to blame, maybe it's traps and some completely esoteric shoulder mumbo jumbo - either way, lean on elbow and don't hold the dumbbell in your palm for biceps as u load it with this unique isometric hold that is the only thing that works biceps long head without fail >you again with your nonsensical isometric holds, what happened to good old fashioned lifting but boto idioto - regular curl IS isometric hold >no it isn'tyes it fucking is - for front delt :D that's what i have managed to avoid :D
>>76654102World's Strongest Man Mitchell Hooper said if you have strong biceps you are more likely to tear them so no.
>>76654149this clown said sth ? cutte :D mine: >>76654146no, all curls variations preacher included choke long head of biceps when front delt upholding humerus vertically flexes atop shoulder long head biceps tendondelt must be completely soft for biceps work>and how would u do that?sit on bench sideways and lean entire torso on elbow, then place dumbbell on palm close to wrist and balance it with other hand, and hold and supinate and flex biceps - all good things :D>but hammer-curls are for brachioradialis not biceps, brachialis alsoif u're after brachioradialis then by all means hold the dumbbel as normal in aforementioned alignmentbut if u want biceps u don't want to hold the dumbbell at all - switches off forearm>can i just do hammers ?nope, chocked long head of biceps will propagate this jackhammer action to short head and brachialis and brachioradialis as biceps will try to contract but won't be able to hold contraction - time under tension on muscle belly is 0i am not entirely sue though if it's flexing front delt that's to blame, maybe it's traps and some completely esoteric shoulder mumbo jumbo - either way, lean on elbow and don't hold the dumbbell in your palm for biceps as u load it with this unique isometric hold that is the only thing that works biceps long head without fail>you again with your nonsensical isometric holds, what happened to good old fashioned liftingbut boto idioto - regular curl IS isometric hold>no it isn'tyes it fucking is - for front delt :D that's what i have managed to avoid :D
>>76654102See people do these with 20-25kg dbs but heave them up with more elbow movement and dont get full contraction at the top due to heaviness. Is that even worth doing?
>>76654174Yeah, for the forearms
>>76654161>>76654146We would take you more seriously if you posted physique
>>76654149If you look at most bicep tears in strength athletes, they happen during the deadlift. Specifically when the athlete is using a mixed grip and wraps, some of them tend to subconsciously flex the underhand arm a little during setup. Obviously the bicep can't curl a deadlift weight, so as the arm is forced into a stretch under load and the hand can't easily let go because of the wrap, the tendon tearsMaybe guys with strong biceps are more prone to this curling of the arm
>>76654102You got to do them compounds do not provide enough direct stimulus cable variations are great because of SUPAsets.
>>76654146I literally cannot understand any of the shit you type but does the fact the most jacked guys in the entire history of humanity never did any of your esoteric nonsense not make you question if it matters
>>76654208Nobody uses wraps for deadlifts. What the fuck are you talking about?
>>76654237Figure 8's you retard
>>76654245Say straps then, not wraps, you mouthbreathing cunt. And nobody uses straps and mixed grip at the same time. Kill yourself.
>>76654102Yes, them normal and reverse, tho i need to more reverse curles, i think my problem with them is that they target the forarm muscles instead of the bicep so i find them harder
>>76654146>sit on bench sideways and lean entire torso on elbow, then place dumbbell on palm close to wrist and balance it with other hand, and hold and supinate and flex biceps - all good things :DFucking hell mate you're going to have to do an MS paint diagram because you lost me
>>76654196Even when they do hammers with heavy dbs?
>>76654102No. There's no need for an kind of curl. Just focus on compounds like squat, bench, and deadlift and your biceps will grow just fine
i use the cable machine to do them much more effective ive found
>>76654237Fuck, I'm retarded, I meant straps
>>76654208Oh wow a deadlift causing ANOTHER injury. Such a great lift.
just use a hex bar and don't drop the weight like an idiot
>>76654102great for supersetsgreat in general
>>76654146>nodidn't read past thatpost body (you wont)
i do cuz curls are for the gurls
>>76654149did he really say that? strongmen usually have huge strong biceps because they're used in alot events. 90's/early 2000s powerlifters like the westside dudes used to say that. they all had torn biceps anyways.
>>76654230He's an absolute retard DYEL who is advocating isometrics if you get through all his ESL bullshit. He should be banned and shot in the head until dead.
>>76654102I do them sitting for max isolation.>>76654461My glutes grow just fine from carrying my massive upper body all day. No need for squats or deadlifts.
>>76657175>My glutes grow just fine from carrying my massive upper body all day. No need for squats or deadlifts.lmao fucking fatass
>>76654102when I started lifting at home because I had a pair of dumbbells and had zero clue, i would do nothing but hammer curls because they were the easiest exercises. Mind you i still hammered till muscles failure over and over. I ended up with huge brachioradialis and nothing else. I looked utterly stupid.
>>76654102Just did two sets of curls, hammers, and cross body curls for a pump.
>>76654102Kinda throughout arm day for the hell of it. I don't really take hammer curls seriously tho
>>76654149that doesnt even make sense.If I have strong quads or pecs I am I more likely to tear them? No. Also long as your not ego lifting like a retard
>>76654102Its my main lift.
>>76654208>If you look at most bicep tears in strength athletes, they happen during the deadlift. Specifically when the athlete is using a mixed gripBased knower. Hand over the bar, never under.The only other way I've ever seen a bicep tear in a gym is heavy preacher curls on a preacher curl pad. I never do these as I find them uncomfortable and ineffective. I do standing barbell curls, standing dumbbell curls and concentration curls. Don't see any need for more.To be fair though, I've actually seen more bicep tears outside of the gym than inside. People lifting engines, bricks, etc. Same thing as the deadlift though, all of them had hands under whatever they were lifting putting the load on the bicep the same way as a deadlift with hands under the bar.
>>76657175>I do them sitting for max isolation.it doesn't preclude delt from flexing bot>>76654146>sit on bench sideways and lean entire torso on elbowthis is the one and only way i have found so far to free long head of biceps off delt flexing on it's shoulder tendon mine looks similar to concentration curl, it ain't, shoulder is pulled down in all regular curl variantsin my oddity it's pushed UP and humerus is fixated in place - big difference, all the difference
I do zottman curls because I may aswell train my forearms while doing this irrelevant meme curling for no benefit.
>>76654161Doesnt standing curls make your arm thicker throughout ao you dont have a bigger bjcep than delts anyways? It gives you a bigger peak mid/low vs more perpendicular humerus so the weight is on the fibers closer to delt, plus that movement has been pretty essential to keeping my shoulders neutral to avoid injury and put weight on lifts.
>>76660091Preachers are actually kind of sick for isometric upper back which tend to be a huge weakness, try just standing higher so arms arent horizontal under heaviest load. Who cares if its "cheating" you can just put more weight on the bar. The typical muscle/tendon tears are when you yank it back with your whole body, which isnt even bad to a moderate degree as pure isolations often lead to imbalances and lack of functional strength. If you arent roided your muscles will be more resilient at max load and in total because your ligaments act like rebar for muscle and tendons also dont become weaker and stringy with irregular hormone levels.
