>do benchpress and incline benchpress>next day>sore hands, almost no soreness in chest>do machine chest press + cable crossover>next day>fully sore chest.Science-based lifters were correct all along.I kneel.
>>76657781Barbell compounds are in the bodybuilder's graveyard. Better ways to work out now.
>>76657781Bench press was never a good chest exercise. It's like a 40/60 split between shoulders/triceps and chest.Cable crossover is 90% chest and 10% front shoulders.
>>76657830Damn, I get to work all those muscles in one lift? Sounds based.
>>76657781>New movement>Sore>Guys this is super sciency.
>>76657873this. stick to your machine work for a couple months then go back to bench and you will feel it in your chest again.
>>76657781This is why I started doing a couple sets of pekku dekku after bench for good measure
>>76657843Wait what? You could do a compound to hit all those muscles AND an accessory lift to isolate each muscle afterwards? That doesn't make any sense!
>>76657843>I get to work all those muscles in one lift? Yeah, you can, but none of them will grow well. That means you’ll be forced to add extra chest and triceps exercises when you could have just focused on pure chest and triceps work instead, maximizing muscle growth and minimizing time spent in the gym.
>>76657959>minimizing time spent in the gymwhy would I want that lol. I love da gym :)
>>76657781>chest exercise>the power behind it comes from the triceps Bench is a meme
>>76657781Two muscles activated one where you get pissed i suppose this is classical strength and the other where you persevere thats augmented strength dudebro science is funny too
>>76657781My chest gets sorest from pushups
>>76658343how do you you incorporate them into your split? superset with bench or dips?
>>76657843tpbp /thread
>>76657781>>76657805>>76657830>>76657959>>76658164>me when I base my workouts on soreness and saving time instead of having fun and looking sick as fuck
>>76657781>sore handsHoly DYEL
>do compound>isolate weak pointsdon't tell nobody this secret
>>76657781To each its own
>be me>not a spastic retard>do any movement in a plane of motion where the corresponding muscles must necessarily be used>get a pump, get sore the day after>extent of soreness is mostly a product of intensity, volume and ROM/stretch of the given liftI don't know how you retards function when you are somehow not able to use your chest in any bench press variation or your lats in a pull-up or pull-down motion.Go try to biceps curl your own body weight then report back to me how a chin-up doesn't activate your lats or w/e
>>76659471strength training is dyel anon. I've see plenty of literal stickmen deadlifting almost x3 bodyweight