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>do benchpress and incline benchpress
>next day
>sore hands, almost no soreness in chest
>do machine chest press + cable crossover
>next day
>fully sore chest.
Science-based lifters were correct all along.
I kneel.
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>>76657781
Barbell compounds are in the bodybuilder's graveyard. Better ways to work out now.
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>>76657781
Bench press was never a good chest exercise. It's like a 40/60 split between shoulders/triceps and chest.
Cable crossover is 90% chest and 10% front shoulders.
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>>76657830
Damn, I get to work all those muscles in one lift? Sounds based.
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>>76657781
>New movement
>Sore
>Guys this is super sciency.
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>>76657873
this. stick to your machine work for a couple months then go back to bench and you will feel it in your chest again.
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>>76657781
This is why I started doing a couple sets of pekku dekku after bench for good measure
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>>76657843
Wait what? You could do a compound to hit all those muscles AND an accessory lift to isolate each muscle afterwards? That doesn't make any sense!
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>>76657843
>I get to work all those muscles in one lift?
Yeah, you can, but none of them will grow well. That means you’ll be forced to add extra chest and triceps exercises when you could have just focused on pure chest and triceps work instead, maximizing muscle growth and minimizing time spent in the gym.
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>>76657959
>minimizing time spent in the gym
why would I want that lol. I love da gym :)
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>>76657781
>chest exercise
>the power behind it comes from the triceps
Bench is a meme
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>>76657781
Two muscles activated one where you get pissed i suppose this is classical strength and the other where you persevere thats augmented strength
dudebro science is funny too
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>>76657781
My chest gets sorest from pushups
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>>76658343
how do you you incorporate them into your split? superset with bench or dips?
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>>76657843
tpbp
/thread
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>>76657781
>>76657805
>>76657830
>>76657959
>>76658164
>me when I base my workouts on soreness and saving time instead of having fun and looking sick as fuck
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>>76657781
>sore hands
Holy DYEL
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>do compound
>isolate weak points

don't tell nobody this secret
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>>76657781
To each its own
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>be me
>not a spastic retard
>do any movement in a plane of motion where the corresponding muscles must necessarily be used
>get a pump, get sore the day after
>extent of soreness is mostly a product of intensity, volume and ROM/stretch of the given lift

I don't know how you retards function when you are somehow not able to use your chest in any bench press variation or your lats in a pull-up or pull-down motion.
Go try to biceps curl your own body weight then report back to me how a chin-up doesn't activate your lats or w/e
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>>76659471
strength training is dyel anon. I've see plenty of literal stickmen deadlifting almost x3 bodyweight



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