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no source talk

old: >>76639846
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I've been on 300 Test E, 150 Mast P, 150 NPP, 1000iu HCG a week for about 3-4 weeks. I've only taken 150mg P5P for prolactin, no AI.

I got some bloods done and I got 76 pg/ml E2 on a 0 - 43 range and 18.66 prolactin on a 4.6 - 21.4 range.

The issue is I'm feeling a tiny lump on my right nipple (maybe the size of a bean or a bit smaller). I assume if I add some AI (arimidex) and lower my E2 to within normal range this will get resolved?
Or can you still get gyno when your E2 and prolactin are in range?

Once I get my E2 in check, could I increase the dose? The problem is I don't have any caber on hand so relying only on P5P for prolactin control.
I was hoping to do 500 test, 250 mast/npp eventually or would that be too much for me without caber seeing as 150 npp put me close to the upper normal range of prolactin?
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>>76658027
Blast some vitamin b6 and see if that helps with the prolactin levels.
I ended up with some gyno from going up to 500mg test for 8 weeks without an ai so I'd definitely want lower e2 before raising it, but I'm also sensitive to aromatizing I found out. Like at 250mg/wk test I would be at 90pg e2 so now if I go above 200 I usually take at least .5mg anastrazole a week split into 2 doses.
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>>76658027
Your HCG is also bumping up E2 a good amount.
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>>76657974
Hi, I’m also a part of LGBTQ + community and struggling with acne as a female since i started to transition to male. I never had acne in my life before November last year and now it’s so bad I’m on accutane and it’s scarred my face all textured. Super self esteem crushing and all I want to do is dig myself a hole and hide in it.
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>>76658143
not those anons, but i think ai's dont touch e2 from hcg. different pathway, or some such thing
>>76658241
the terminal acne anon is evolving.... or if this is legit, check out the skin addiction subplebbit. there's tons of different treatments available, and you need to work your way through them all to see which suits your skin type. also look up pockmark treatments to fix your scarring. also google around for laser skin resurfacing
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>>76658241
also also, we often advise against the ftm thing here. there's been a few of you that have passed through here, and have regretted their decision. not about the actual changes, but y'all get straight fucked socially. men dont have the community nor offer the support that women do. you're not a woman to them any longer, so you also lose what support you have had in the past. also for some reason trans folk dont like masc types, so don't expect much from that community. it's also hard to find people willing to be in a relationship with ftm. so now we always try to steer y'all to staying femm, but just roid up. you can be ask masculine as you want, you'll have other women in the same boat as you and their community is pretty tight, and there's always guys that want a muscle mommy
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>>76658135
>>76658143
Fair I could lower the HCG or get rid of it.
Already taking p5p though or you mean up the dose? Mine is already in the normal range at 18.6 ng/ml, at what point does it become an issue?
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>>76658405
Honestly just keeping it in range is enough. The bigger problem would be if you were on tren because that stuff makes it go high and you'd need caber. The e2 being high isnt like a super big issue either but the more time it's high the longer your body will be exposed and start to develop tissue so if youre planning on keeping your T dose high hop on an AI at a low dose for a few weeks after your levels stabilize and then see where it's at and adjust from there.
Honestly wouldn't worry about the prolactin at all at this point
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>>76658392
I can't change who I am. A bit about me, I've been sexual active since 16 but was only really able to explore my sexuality in university at 20 years old. When I went to my first queer event, I was excited to meet people and make some new friends.The first thing that stood out to me when I entered the event was that everyone was dressed in some alternative style. Rainbows were everywhere - on rings, on bags, as bracelets, on shirts. when conversations started most of them revolved around mental illness, trauma, gender identity, queer tv shows I had never seen, queer celebrities I had never heard about, medication, or jokes on straight cis men, usually around how awful they were. I eventually made queer friends through the person I was dating at the time, and we bonded over rpg's. I went to many dnd sessions with them and met their own queer group. I want to be clear that I'm proud of who I am and that I firmly believe people should be able to express their identity the way they want and love whoever they want. I will proudly continue my transition.
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>>76658461
There are no gatekeepers for how you should express yourself or how to be here on /fraud/ and please feel welcome among us as long as you fraud your way trough life
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Sup /fraud/, It's been a while. I'm feeling ill enough to recklessly blast again, and I'm looking for some opinions on what to run in a bulk:
>1. 175 test e + 525 tren e – 16 weeks
>2. 175 test e + 525 deca + 525 EQ – 20 weeks min.
>3. 525 test e + 525 EQ + 350 tren e – 20 weeks min, adding tren partway
I've had success with low test (as a base) + high tren/deca before with few issues, but never high test + low-mid tren. I've only ever used tren a, not e, and I've also never used EQ before. I might just run cycle 1 and call it a day without complicating things.
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>>76658630
Drop the tren and run masteron instead with mid-low test around 200-250 and mast/eq around 300
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>>76658241
you took drugs to fix your dysphoria and it just made it worse? thats a big kekw
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>>76657974
Has anyone actually tried claiming to be a transgender man while actually male?
Like yeah, this body is male, but I feel like I'm not male enough. I should've been born a supermale. Fork it over.
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>>76658461
youre so proud of who you are that you want to crawl into a hole and die because of how you look due to your "gender affirming treatment" kekw
maybe you were wrong about your gender after all buddy
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>EQ
>BPC
>horse electrolytes I got off of Amazon
>ivermectin
>alfalfa for protein

Any tips on Horsemaxxing?
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>>76658728
you sound like my parents when i came out. When I told my parents about it and since then it's mainly a fight to make me doubt about it. At the beginning, they accused my meds for my depression. They made me talk to one of their doctors friends and a psychiatrist here in France. They outed me to a lot of their friends who also participated, trying convincing me not to hast myself in my transition. Not only that, but they also tell me not to let me influenced by the trans community. Also i want to clarify that the theory in France is very different from the one in North America (where I live). What they told me is that in France, transidentity is induced by uneasiness from childhood trauma and education. The protocol for accessing HRT is to first identify the origin of the transidentity.

On the other hand, in Canada, transidentity probably came from the brain development which take place after genital development. The protocol is to give access to HRT after dysphoria is identified.

I am pretty sure about my transidentity. However, I can't help myself to doubt after all those "attacks". Their main argument is that my depression and meds induced this drive to change sex. They want me to heal it before engaging with more test
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>>76658797
Mane and tail shampoo. I always used horse shampoo growing up it’s good stuff.
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>>76657974
I need advice. I am doing great working out with TRT, but recently I got an elbow strain that won't go away. It feels like sore muscles, but it's the tendon (or other soft tissue) and it won't go away.

How do I fix this you guys!?

Looking at BPC157. any suggestions?

This happened due to taking one (1) anavar tablet. That shit unlocked some strength.
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>>76658707
I want to love mast but it's the only compound that makes me have to worry about shedding. Even tren doesn't touch my hair, and it's in a class of its own gains wise (even though it's basically poison in other ways)
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>>76658822
Shut up, bitch. Not your personal blog.

Ywnbam
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If I want to do steroids as an intermediate lifter to help get my physique up to a more advanced stage faster, will I still lose my gains post-cycle? Everything I see about losing gains is mostly in guys going past/to their genetic limit. Meanwhile I don't see a lot of guys talking about actually losing their gains who are just taking them to get a little ahead.

What's the minimum cycle where I can expect to bulk and get ahead in the long-term?
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>>76658913
Why did you ask her then?
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>>76658924
I didn't ask anything.
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>>76658461
oh! well, glad to hear that. build that support network, and keep it alive. just remember that everyone has their own life going on, and might not think to reach out to you. so if you're feeling alone, or having issues, you gotta be the one to speak up. don't let yourself spiral just because you don't want to be a bother. best of luck to you!
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>>76658630
man you can keep tren up that long? more power to you. personally, i'd do the test+deca+eq for a winter bulk
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too scared to fraud. I will be a dyel forever
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>>76658822
>> don't be influenced by the trans community!
>> be influenced by our shitty parenting!
lol...
>>76658887
tendinitis. muscles grow faster than tendons can adapt, and it's real easy to fuck 'em up when roiding. get some of those stretchy bands, and look up rotations for tennis elbow. keep at pt, and maybe it'll go away if you're lucky. good chances it's for life though. maybe hgh would help
>>76658920
if you can't reach your potential natty, you aint gonna keep it after pct. you're already lacking the habits, so you wont be able to maintain that natty peak
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>>76658822
im the guy youre responding to and my wife unironically has a cock, and i want you to know youre a retard
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>>76658822
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You're not meant to cycle, thats retarded,cyou're meant to b&c.

Source: professional bodybuilders and people who have their entire sense of self worth propped up by their muscle mass
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>>76659642
what if I perma mini blast
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>>76659219
That's just the max I'd run it for, but I'd tap out earlier if I need to. I've ran acetate for 12 weeks at a similar dose, so I figured the extra 4 weeks should account for the onset of enanthate.

The deca + EQ blast sounds good on paper to me, and I handle nandrolone well, but I'm unsure what the EQ will do realistically. I'm still leaning towards tren because it's tried and true in my case, and I think I'd put on less fat relative to lean gains in a heavy surplus (assuming it doesn't fuck my appetite too much)
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>>76658822
Man, what the fuck is happening in this thread?
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>literal roidtranny general
You cant make this shit up
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>>76659899
Post body or lifts please.
Prove being natty is worth it. You can't.
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>>76659679
of your bloods are good, fuckin send it
>>76659728
ah word. i've only done ace as well. dunno about that lead up time for e. if you do eq, stay on top of your hct and bp. less water than deca though, so you'll have a nicer look on blast. the ai thing seems hit and miss for people, but more hit than miss. good steady mass builder though, and can cause an appetite bump too
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>>76659815
>>76659899
y'all aint from here, are you? happens often, since no one else can help them. even docs are often useless when it comes to hormones
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>>76659961
stfu nobody is ever going to post body. If I look ripped you will say its fake. If I don't look ripped you will dunk on me. Only a retard would ever comply with your request. Its so annoying that every disagreement on here comes down to >post body >No U
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>>76659899
>using male hormone to enhance myself to be more male
>trans

I dont think you know what that word means
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>>76660038
>female hormone gets tossed around like crazy and "is a human right"
>male hormone is an illegal drug in the same category as black tar heroine

this is the most clear proof of how we live in a cucked society
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>>76660038
you could argue for it using the same terminology that these types of people use, gender affirming treatment doesnt suggest that you cant have treatments to affirm your gender even if its the same as the gender you were assigned at birth. there could potentially be a coherent argument for being prescribed test as a non binary amab etc. you are either trolling or retarded if you think otherwise
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>>76660038
Horseshoe theory
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>>76660051
I dont understand half the words in your post.
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>>76658241
the accutane will fix the acne, but it will make your mood worse, and it can take a few months of "purging" (drastic increase in acne) before it starts working and a few months after that for it to finish. your dermatologist should have told you this.

accutane won't fix all the scarring but it'll get rid of most of the post-inflammation hyperpigmentation (PIH) and reduce some of the scarring. personally my scarring cleared up very well after i finished accutane. but do not pop or pick at your acne while on accutane because your healing is slowed way down and you're more likely to get scars from popped pimples.

it's a hell of a drug and the sides can be awful. good luck riding it out anon. if you can make it through it you'll be good.

t. former accutane user
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>>76660051
Maybe you could argue its transhumanist
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>>76660008
post your supplement stack
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>no source talk

Someone please spoon feed me and point me in the direction for source talk
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How do I counter body acne? I am going to a particular Asian country to be with a 10/10 beauty in December and want to be at the top of my game before I meet her. I may even do a little tren in the few weeks leading up.
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>>76660650
I've been using the same source for 4 years reliably. I don't mind getting banned telling you in the thread but I don't want the thread getting banned. So instead I'll just post on another board all together then link you to that post.
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>>76660650
Go to google and literally type in Steroid Source Talk

You’re welcome
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>>76660650
/pol/ doesn't have a no source talk rule :^)
>>>/pol/517164422
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So I’ve given up on getting primo; it’s been months

I will instead use EQ to manage e2. What ratio works with test to keep e2 managed? I was thinking of starting with 500 test/300 EQ. I’m gonna start the blast at 11.5% bf.

Also is the blood thickening really that bad? Or is my dose too baby to worry about it? I’ll be honest it’s a bulk so I’m not gonna be doing cardio
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>>76660684
Tried, I'm just looking for Var orals, my usual go-to is out of stock (UK)
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>>76657974
I came out as a “lesbian” when I was 14 and dated women exclusively until I was 27 (slept with the occasional cis-guy before t but was always severely underwhelmed with the experience lol), which about two years after I came out entirely/started T. But about six months on T all I wanted was d*ck lol. (I was with my ex-girlfriend until I was 27, we ended on good terms bc turns out I’m gay af and so is she )

is it the test or more like I did not like being with men who treated/looked at me as a woman. anyone got similar experience?
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>>76661153
Go post this shit on Reddit. Nobody here gives a fuck that you're fucked up. All we care about here is making fun of fags who are afraid of needles and shitting on oral only cycles (probably dudes afraid of needles as well).
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>>76661153
you are mentally ill either way
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>>76661153
many such stories. also there's lots of dick out there. find someone that knows how to use theirs. y'all vagina owners are so easy to please. those lazy fucks that never evolve beyond jackhammer give the rest of us a bad rap
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>>76660650
theres forums for that go to meso rx
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>>76660229
Nta and I'm on accutane right now
Sides: dry skin, nose bleeds (minor), chafed skin around lips
Pros: almost no new acne (on the face at least)
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What can you tell me about peptides for fat burning?
I got fat again after my unending bulk that stretched too long, and the idea of cutting hard again is daunting (in the past years, I got obese and cut 20 kg of fat TWICE to being slim again, so I CAN cut, I have enough willpower for it, but holy shit, I hate it)
This time, I want to try a shortcut. Which doesn't include steroids (because once I stop cutting, I will start an all out fucking bulking blast)

GHRP-2 + CJC-1295 DAC
What is it? Do you have any experience with this? I honestly know nothing about peptides, so I will have to read a lot about them. How do they even work?
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Wait cumming increases prolactin does that meaning when I'm gooning 3 times a day and blasting steroids I increase the risk of gyno??
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>>76661153
you missed the key part explaining that you were molested/raped and that triggered your tranny mental illness kek
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no matter what i do, i cant progress
even when i add steroid to the equation
am i supposed to eat? i feel like eating make me fat, i eat like once a day, maybe a potato and yes i roid but cant progress at all
wtf am i doing wrong, i want to be swole like you guys
i can hardly bench press 1.5 plate
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My SHBG is 7 in a 16-70 normal range... should I even care for this?
I haven't taken anavar in half a year idk why its still so low.
What are the bad side effects of low SHBG?
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>>76661380
youre a fat fuck dude the only peptide you need for fat burning is logging your food
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>>76661380
Retatrutide or Tirzepatide. The former can increase actual fat loss, the latter is better for more appetite suppression. The former can increase HR so if you’re THAT fat (to the point your RHR is wonky) it could be bad, the latter doesn’t.
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>>76661669
>the only peptide you need for fat burning is logging your food
Gee, thanks
I can do that. And I did that
And I can do a HIIT session every other day too (I get extra tired and dizzy if I do it every day + lifting + working)
It's not a problem. I just want to finish it faster
>>76661706
>appetite suppression
I don't need it. I can just ignore hunger. I need something to speed up the fat burning process though
>THAT fat
No, I'm not THAT fat. Yet..........
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>>76661578
>am i supposed to eat?
No, you need to absorb the space ethereal energy
Don't get too carried away though or you will get terminal acne
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>>76661862
people say steroid compensate for shit diet, i dont want to eat because it makes me feel fat, but i gotta eat at least 1 potato
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>>76661862
how do you absorb the space ethereal energy, do you need a special full moon necklace?
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>>76661908
>>76661578
nattycucks on damage mode
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>>76661929
just look at sam sulek, he eats like shit
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>>76658630
I think you’re going to absolutely nuke your e2 with those test/eq ratios. Just be prepared to end up running at least a gram of test if you try either of those. If I wanted to keep my test low I’d run 175 test, 400 deca (or preferably npp), 400 mast
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>>76660820
5:3 is a good starting point. I have to run like 3:1 just to keep my e2 out if the teens so get bloods to confirm that you’re where you want to be.
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>>76661380
Your stack is fucking stupid. GLP-1 of your choice + hgh + SLU has been working pretty good for me
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im so tired of being natty i want to be a fraudian like you guys but its illegal in canada and my doctor said i didnt need it, he gave me a reference for therapy, its so unfair, idk how you people can get scrip so easily
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>>76658241
Post feminine benis, or am I confused you people are confusing, 500mg/wk test should fix you up
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>>76661828
you dont need to have logged your food, you need to do it now and for the foreseeable future lol
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>>76661642
Also curious about this been on var since July no idea what my level is but prolly low only week left, BP has been in mid low 120’s for past week wondering if related
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>>76662407
lmao nigger you are retarded
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On day 15 of my TRT (doing 30mg per day aka 210 mg/week)

I got new PRs on everything today. I am thinking that maybe it started to kick in.
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>>76662444
Enjoy the honeymoon gains, when I hopped on TRT I took my bench from 120kg to 160kg in about a year, then I chased 4pl8 and hurt some tendon near my armpit it hasnt stopped hurting since...
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>>76662286
Most of us aren't script fags and you're clearly too retarded to fraud if this is the conclusion you've landed on. Begone nattycuck.

>>76662560
>Still ego lifts
ngmi
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>>76662580
Well I enjoy heavy lifting more than bodybuilding chasing numbers gives me joy but I cant do that while injured idk what im even doing anymore
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Got a knot from an injection on Sunday, had a massage on Tuesday and it kinda made it worse? I have a meet on Saturday and don’t want it to mess with me anything I can do? To speed up that healing
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>>76662444
try twice daily injections, they changed my life
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>>76662613
Heating pad helps mine
maybe hot shower/bath
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>>76661380
>GHRP-2 + CJC-1295 DAC
Does anyone here knows how much HGH peptides like GHRP6 and CJC produces in the body? I never heard someone talk about doses effect
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>>76657974
Why would i give you of all people tesosterone? Youre already better than me so i have to withold information to dominate you, but with massive superhuman roid strength youd be able to fuck me in the ass with one hand behind your back. You must take me for stoopy doopy huh? Not today mister, not today.
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>>76662560
If you use ateroids you have to supplement gh, stem cells, cortisol, surgery, recovery steroids, etc or youll have even worse tendons especially if you value size over baby doses to cruise. Superhuman testosterone crashes estrogen and other endocrine funcion, also the ligaments will deteriorate also and is why muscle pulls are rarely seen in natties. Also tendon recovery takes way longer and a better diet than just muscle to optimize so you cant eat like a toddler and expect linear gains to the moon.

You could try supplementing estro with a ton of milk but a lot of the processes by the endlcrine system are more complicated than theres supplements for. Thats why every stromg roider that doesnt get career ending injuries do prison reps and low weight, and also their size is so pump and steroid dependant. Basically anyone can get 6pl8 1rm bench roided but if you acually do the heavy weight and it breaks you in half is another thing.
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>>76662880
no
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>>76662880
uhhh 6/10 bait
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anyone know anything about ERR-b
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Does HCG even do anything for primary hypogonadism?
My LH was already over the range and my total total test was 200 before I hopped on TRT.
I just want huge testicles and loads or is that not possible for me?
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>>76663141
fsh + lh. hcg works for most, but some need hmg as well. take zinc, lecithin, saw palmetto, stinging nettle root, and pygeum as well. the last three increase prostatic fluid, which is most of what your ejaculate consists of. hcg + hmg is more about feritlity, as in viable sperm
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>>76662722
Seriously? I cant imagine it does very much the half life of test C is like 8 days.
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>>76662410
That’s not very helpful, seems at worst I smashed my shbg a bit and have more free test and possible higher aromatization, tho I’m pretty sure I crashed my shit earlier in the week anyway, this going on feels shit is getting tiresome
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Is there a reason to supplement DHEA? I feel like it would just make me more estrogenic or soemthing
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>>76663141
hCG won't help you, nor will hMG with your low T
in terms of big balls it's more about fertility/sperm which FSH can help with as >>76663173 said

>>76663241
No, there's no way to tell what the conversion rates are inside the tissue, and if you aren't super old you have enough of it floating around anyways. If you really care get a blood test done before you supplement it.
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>>76662722
>not injecting test 4 times per day
ngmi
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>>76663375
I did four injections today but none of them were test
haha
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Reta is absolutely insane, kills all food noise. I can run a gram of fucking tren with 2mg of reta and i sleep a solid 6 hours (on a gram of tren is amazing), need zero caffeine and feel amazing throughout the day and still eat a deficit. Fucking magic, staying gnarly shredded with no carb binges on tren is breeze. I apologize for shitting on you glp guys in other threads. Fuck this is great.
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Are BPC-157 and TB-500 as good as people say they are for tendinitis? Have some mild bicep tendinitis thats been lingering for the past month. Or should I just lower the weight for a while and hit it with daily massage?
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>>76663389
I have been using semiglutide and I find that its very powerful and very cheap. But only shitting every third day is pretty annoying. It basically turned me into a person with irratable bowel syndrome. Shits are hardly every normal.
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>>76663389
you know it's weird but i have worse insomnia now on 500 test 300 tren than i did on 1500 test 1000 tren. i don't get it. some ratio bullshit? it's not like a up all night thing, but the lower dose has me waking up multiple times every night. i'd go to bed at midnight on a gram and be out. i go to bed between 10-11 on 300 and i'll wake up at 1,3, and 5
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>>76660650
Literally 3 minutes browsing reddit and verifying legitimacy will find you everything you need. If you can't figure that out then you will probably fuck yourself up with gear due to stupidity.
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>>76658822
You're rambling like a meth addict
also no one asked
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Starting my first cycle on monday bros
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>>76663375
>not injecting test 4 times per day
Hear me out
Testosterone IV infusion
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>>76664202
an insulin pump but with test
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>>76663437
My sister uses Sema, she's still fat, low doses it tho. I've heard the fatigue is bad, but the appetite suppression is crazy. Reta's appetite suppression isn't amazing, but it completely kills any desire for food. I eat my macros and I'm satisfied every time.
>>76663755
Your e2 management was probably alot better on 1500-1000. Everytime my e2 is high things are bad sleep wise, I much prefer like test-tren like 500-1000.
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Fatty here
Gonna cut down to 20% bf and blast test 400mg + deca + primo

Worth it ?
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To all the people who have been on tren before: how did it affect your sexual preferences?
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>>76664971
It made older women unappealing and questionable jailbait ridiculous temptation. Natties and scared trters spread your shit meme, tren for the most part just makes sleep worse and your crave carbs like nothing else.
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>>76665013
I mean it was designed for cattle, do you get any unusual cravings for corn and grain processed slop?
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>>76658887
TRT won't help you much with tendons.
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>>76664940
Its probably a good idea to take a trt dose while cutting. Cutting itself can crash test levels. By maintaining a high test level you probably save a lot of muscle on your cut.

If you aromatize too much then you are at least going to learn to manage estrogen on a low dose rather than having to figure it out while you are on your 3 compound cycle.
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>>76658887
keep taking the anavar lol I am pretty sure it helps with healing thats why they used to give it to burn victims
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>>76660820
The problem with eq is the same problem as primo, it's pretty weak and pumping up the dosage is the only way to make up for it. EQ's problem is the higher the the dosage the worse your BP is unless you're on very good cardio schedule. Hunger is a great for a bulk, terrible for a cut.

It's okay, 19 nors are way better. I think the joint and collagen support is worth running a lower dose of it.
>>76665100
I like the guys I know IRL who do TRT, but they're about as fucking retarded as natties.
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>>76664750
aaahhh fuck you know what, you're totally right. i haven't taken an ai at all so far this blast lol. usually i get sugar cravings, then oily skin, then other sides. must be different this time since i'm taking so much less. fuck! thank you!
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>>76665013
ugh... this.
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So I’ve done a 500mg a week cycle last year thought I had no sides. This year I’m doing 100mg test a day so 700/wk and I randomly pinch my nipple and it squirted something a little WTF. Try the other one and didn’t come as easy as the first but still comes.
>nipples not sensitive
>look and feel exactly the same
>lean so not fat
What the fuck gives? Was it just always there pre cycle and I never noticed? What to do? Is it even anything to worry about. Popped and AI immediately and I’ll start taking it regularly now
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>>76665641
can you not afford bloodwork? usually people do it a month into their cycle.
no idea what that is or if this post is even real but prolactin supposedly causes that, do you take nandrolones?
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>>76665983
hes obviously taking way underdosed test if hes on 700 a week and not getting any e2 sides kek
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>>76641226
so uhh how about that lads
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>>76665422
No worries bro, just last night I didn't pop my aromasin in time and couldn't pass out until 3am. I feel like you need extra AI when running tren.
>>76665641
>i'ma never use AI
Your estrogen is sky high even if your dick works and you aren't having any bad "sides". High e2 is the only way your prolactin will increase as well, it can't at normal range levels.
>>76666358
It's fucked. India isn't (nor would I trust) picking the slack. It's gonna be a couple years before things start to get to normal, I'm honestly surprised people aren't panicking more.
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>>76665641
>>76665983
>>76666008
>>76666396
It’s real thanks for the insight. I did have money for bloodwork when I started but don’t anymore due to circumstance, I also lost healthcare. But I’ll get some done soon. Don’t think my stuff is underdosed. I do have lots of arimidex both 0.5 and 1mg on hand so I guess I’ll use that now. If nothing else is wrong with my nipples and it’s literally just prolactin then I don’t have gyno and it’ll go away or anything else I should be concerned about?
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>>76666555
checked, no, hard tissue takes a very long time to form. I'd say 99% of people who have gyno got it from childhood. Stop fucking touching your nipples, take like .5 arimadex 3 times a week (maybe 4) and chill. If it's still bugging you, prolactin is probably still high. Caber or prami fixes it in about a week.
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>>76664971
4th day of adding 100mg/wk tren to 300/150 Test Mast cutting cycle. So far, I’ve got:
>night sweats
>full on wake up fuckin screaming night terrors
>insane appetite even with tirz e4d
>carb cravings
>added strength
>added confidence
>a dash of road rage
No libido effect to speak of from the tren or the mast. Which sucks because I love being a horny bastard.
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>>76658027
drop the test to 150 and up the NPP, prolactin cannot be elevated when estrogen is low
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>>76658707
>masteron
it doesn't even add mass lol
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>>76660668
are you the thai ladyboy guy
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>>76661828
Tren
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I got my blood checked because I have no libido recently (36) but my t came back at 530. Median for my age is 6-700. Doctor didn't suggest anything and someone in this thread said I shouldn't do trt if I'm over 500.

What do? I want to be horny all the time again
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>>76666789
you are going to irreversibly age your skin, lose your hair and compromise your health just to look disgusting to people you dumb fucking faggot. Get off this shit before its too late. Stop injecting hormones into your ass and understand that you suffer from body dysmorphia
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>>76666905
check testosterone, estradiol (e2), shbg, prolactin, and... something i'm forgetting. all gotta be in balance, but if you're already having issues it'll be hard to know what's off if they're all "in range." range being bullshit, because, shocker, everyone is different. or just say fuck it, take test, tren, anavar, proviron, cialis, pt141, and just walk around trying your best to not hump everything in sight. for real though if you do trt to fix ed, expect six months before you see an improvement. if it's not an ed thing, but more libido, it's kinda more hit but sometimes miss if trt will help
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>>76666950
6 months bro wtf
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is 250 test to 500 test cycle enough to bulk up from 200 pounds to 300 pounds?
i just need mass
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>>76661578
You really will only see progress by eating enough food. Idk why people are this retarded dude. 3k+ a day with 200g+ protein or even like 4k with 300g if you're roiding should net you like 5lbs of muscle a month
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>>76666879
>300mg of an anabolic steroid doesn't add any mass bro
Pretty sure that's not true and you're just trenbrained since tren is so over the top in terms of anabolism
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>>76667014
the guy you are replying to is a retard. People literally just think the most bloating compounds are for growth and non bloating compounds are for cutting.

Someone a few threads ago was also saying you can’t build muscle with tren lol
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>>76666980
shut up retard
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Bros I get so much conflicting information. Is it really worth 500mg/week test only or will I still get most of the desired results on 300 mg/week? Depending on what forum I go to I get different answers...
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I finally managed to fix my shitty ferritin with vorck's protocol, it fucking works

Right after my donation I started pounding the iron tablets like the protocol said, while eating nothing but whey, fish and chicken, the gastric side effects were almost unbearable (shitting black tar that i am fairly certain would move towards a magnet) but i am feeling great now. Most importantly i am now longer pulling clumps of hair every time i run my hand through it which is a huge relief.

If you're on trt and you've crashed your ferritin through donating and high epo, go to his website, that shit works.
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Is hcg for fat loss (via stimulation of the thyroid) a meme or does it work?
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>>76666918
Your biggest enemy is a medium sized shirt natty faggot
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Where do you guys order your blood work? I used privatemdlabs for years, but their website is all fucky now, it looks like they went full retard with AI.
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>>76667446
yea taking iron may increase the amount of iron in your body
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>>76667824
No you retard, if you just take iron while on gear it's all gonna go into your red blood cells so you'll still have low ferritin on top of having hematocrit at 60

The key is to take it according to the protocol to suppress erythroferrone and epo and funnel it into ferritin
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>>76667485
this is me: >>76667260 >>76667272
i wont waste my time arguing with a fucking roidtranny subhuman but reference to these to get your L roidtranny JFL
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>>76667839
based retard
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>>76666867
Really? I always thought you needed more test than deca to not get deca dick.
Anyway can't I just take AI and lower the estrogen instead?
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>>76667977
hes retarded and the only steroids he takes exist in chatgpt
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>>76667977
the AI will work, even without caber. Your problem is that you want to up the dose, there is no point to running moderate test and low NPP
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>>76668068
Fair enough, its my first time trying deca so I dont plan on going more than 300 npp (if I can even handle that without sides).
It is too much oil to inject anyway since it is low concentration, next winter I can get real deca and pin more and get some caber on hand too.
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>>76667877
>starts arguing in thread
>gets a small insult
>links a bunch of random a bunch of random
>i wont argue with you anymore
based natty retard, do be quiet.
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>>76666958
yup! first month maybe you get some mood, energy, sleep, and libido increases. 2-3 months for better gym performance, and maybe weight loss. 3 months+ decreased brain fog, improving stamina. 6'ish months for ed. if ed isn't solved by 6 months, it's unlikely to be related to testosterone. 6-12 months things even out, then 12+ months nothing changes
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>>76666980
anon.... okay first of all, what in the actual fuck is that picture. second, take test + deca + eq + hgh + insulin and eat 6k+ calories a day to try and max out weight gain, but 100lbs in a single blast is still unrealistic. even on a dirty bulk. and most of it will be water weight and fat
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>>76667274
what are your desired results? if you're just looking for more energy, mental clarity, add some lean mass, and get rid of some fat, then, yeah, 300 is fine. if you want to add muscle, do 500. if you want to get big (and if you're roiding, that should be the only desired result), do 750
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>>76667468
hcg monotherapy is a treatment option for hypogonadism, and is intended to increase testosterone production, which may result in weight loss. if you're already looking at this shit though, just start trt. there's a clinic on every block in the US these days, or if you're elsewhere or dont want to spend that much, you can find ugl test e/c for $30 for a 10ml 2500mg vial, which will last you at least 12 weeks. google (literally) for ugl source talk forums, read reviews, order, buy some 31g 5/8" insulin syringe with needles online, buy some alcohol swabs at costco or wherever, and start your self directed trt protocol. having said all that though, abs are made in the kitchen. that is to say, weight's all diet, my dude. you'd be better off buying a $20 kitchen scale, and measure your portions. if you're amerifat, you'll be shocked at how much we overeat as a baseline. like.... just a regular meal, not even out at a bbq and knowingly overeating to theb point of discomfort, then downing a few beers or sodas on top of that. oh! and dont drink your calories. that is by far the easiest way to get fat. the couples joke about husband and wife both cutting soda, and the husband loses 20lbs is not a meme
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>>76666918
this is the dumbest fucking thing to have an existential crisis over... puer aerternis. growing up.. manning up... sucking it up.... doing what needs to be done... all ways of saying knowingly closing the door on possibilities to pursue a goal. being a child is to be excited about being able to do anything. the world is your oyster. endless opportunities. clinging to that as you age is akin to analysis paralysis. you never move to do anything, because doing so restricts your opportunities. it's acknowledging your limited potential. you're not a genius. you're not the goat. you're not a fucking super hero. and you don't want to face that, so you watch people try, and sometimes fail, while you sit there and judge them, as you scoff and claim you could do so much better, then post about how unfair society, and dream about how much better your life would be if only someone would give you a chance. if only that golden opportunity would fall out of the fucking sky, and land gently in your lap
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>>76667677
discountedlabs.com, and they're a bit less expensive, plus they have 21% discounts a few times a year
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>>76668194
jfl where did i “start arguing” my dear roidtranny? i adviced a guy to stop being a roidtranny and a roidtranny seethed about it. seems like your peepee isnt the only thing roids made smaller
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>>76667014
mast is anabolic as proviron. Waste of your CNS. If you're a soft nigger stay with primo or eq, if you're a bloatlord go for deca or npp. Leave the mast for no gains boomers
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>>76668493
Peepee gets bigger, more blood flow. Balls get smaller, you're a definitely a newfag lmao.
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>base testosterone at 385

How bad is this
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>>76668544
depending on what lab you go to, bottom of the normal range is either 250 or 300 ng/dl. 385 is fine. or not. it varies wildly per person. i doubt any doc would prescribe you anything at 385. labs dont give a fuck though, and will aim to get you higher. if you're 35+ though, chances are 385 is below what you're used to, amd maybe be contributing to why you've been feeling off, or constantly tired
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>>76668551
Im 26, and have been feeling tired and dead. It was while I was taking Ozempic to cut weight though
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Can't afford hgh forever can I just take it for 4-5 months when I cut and then drop it?
Will the body start producing it's own growth hormone when I stop like before?
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Anyone in the UK here? How much do you spend per month on everything steroid related I’m trying to figure out if I can afford it
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>>76668559
how many calories were you eating? if you ended up essentially on a crash diet, you'd feel cruddy. ozempic, trt, or not.
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>>76668648
Wasnt a crash diet, had a decent amount the night before.
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>>76668648
Forgot to mention I took tongkat Ali that days too. Baseline might be closer to 350 actual.

Feeling legitametly fucked anon
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ment is based
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I feel too fat already but if I cut now I'll be lean by like spring and have to bulk during summer.
How do I continue to bulk for a few more months? Or should I "recomp"
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Do you guys prefer arimidex or aromasin? For aromasin what is your dosing protocol? I want to avoid crashing my e2
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>>76657974
is there any cheat to increasing appetite?
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>>76668806
MK677 or EQ, avoid anavar
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>>76668806
fraud answer: Equipoise, orals like dbol and anadrol, insulin
otc: dextrose, digestive enzymes, ginger, bitters
Lifestyle/routine: hard training, good sleep, palatable food you like
Not specifically appetite but gets more calories: liquid calories, energy dense foods, regular meal times, smaller frequent meals

My personal favorite is whole milk and pb for energy dense foods, some steaks because I love beef, or maybe something like ground beef over rice with some eggs and seasoning so it is nice to eat a couple pounds of it
If you can't bulk on meat, milk, eggs and some easily digesting carbs then you should give up, you aren't cut out for this life 2bh
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>>76668885
I assume hes on tren and its nuking his appetite
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>>76668928
>makes you crazy carbs
Doesn't nuke your appetite unless your liver is weak asf, the bigger problem is the acid build up with larger amounts of food on tren. Easily fixed with omeprazole.
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>>76668939
tfw liverlet
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>>76668868
>>76668885
thanks i'll look into that. I'm not on tren. it might be from high cortisol
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>>76668079
good luck getting deca in a few months rofl xd



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