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Which is easier as a beginner - starting out fat or starting out skinny and bulking up?
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>>76660042
If not so obese you got multiple rolls through years of bad eating habits, leaning down is easier through restrictive dieting, starting out skinny gives you lean chad privilege but means you will struggle putting on muscle quick.
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>>76660042
Getting lean makes me feel like im a homosexual cuckold i cant do it, its not willpower its just why even if the women suck here and im poor?
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>>76660042
Bulking up is easier if you dont mind gaining a tonne of bodyfat as well as muscle.

Its probably more efficient looks wise to have to lose weight, but if you start out obese you will have loose skin to remember it by
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>>76660054
what?
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>>76660042
I'm so glad I got into fitness as a teenager
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>>76660059
Like what if some roided monster benching 600+ like i bench 185, and i have a sick gf way hotter than his what then?

No im not literally a cuck but this is an ignored sentiment its just entirely avoided like im the crazy one. Im perfectly sane, i just think too much sometimes and it makes me worried.
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>>76660072
You are not perfectly sane. Most peoples thoughts do not immediately go to being "a homosexual cuckold" when they think about getting in better shape. Nor do they frame self development purely in terms of pussy.

You sound like some sort of ADHD riddled closet homosexual deviant.
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>>76660042
Fatties get a strength boost
Leancels get a natural +3 to aesthetics if they dont fuck it up
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>>76660056
You should not be gaining a ton of fat with your muscle unless you are in an unnecessarily large calorie surplus. You only need to be at about ~250 calories over TDEE
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>>76660042
fatties have it easier.
>infinite calorie supply just under the skin
>bonus to calf muscles
>takes longer to look good so more progress before quitting
>healthy appetite = more gains

"i don't know why i can't gain weight. i eat loads!"
-said no fattie ever
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>>76660072
Just saying.
>>76660092
He read too much NTR hentai and now is permanently brain damaged by it. Happens to the worst of us if one doesn't stop being delusional. Fiction is fiction, don't let it scar your mind.
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>>76660101
You have to bring ass to get ass.
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>>76660042
People are fat because of ADDICTION to food.
People are scrawny because they don't care enough about food.
So tell me, RETARD, what's harder? Beating an addiction? Or buying a tub of mass gainer and drinking 3 servings of it? Stupid fuck. Kill yourself.
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>>76660119
Genetics to play a factor. I know skinny people who eat way more than me. If i look at pringles i gain 5 lbs.
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>>76660116
what the fuck does that even mean?
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>>76660123
That's not how that works
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>>76660136
Eat big, lift big, worry about the consequences later.
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>>76660042
Starting out skinny is far easier. And never use the words "bulking up". They have to start eating more, but "bulking" is the wrong fucking mindset.
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>>76660042
fatties get "you'd look good if you lost weight" comments all the time but skeletons don't get any comments coz ppl think they wanna look that way/are wasting away from some disease.
so motivation wise fatties win while skinny dudes just have to look at jacked dudes on instagram and cry
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>>76660042
He must Alexander Zassmaxx. He was also bald and had the chud physiognomy.
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>>76660113
>He read too much NTR hentai
Many such cases, very sad!
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>>76660665
Is the hitlerstache mandatory?
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>>76660864
Yes.
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>>76660042
Starting out skinny is highly preferred. Fatsos might seem to start out stronger, but that is only in some lifts, not all. Pullups and Chinups are God tier exercises that fatties cannot do. At all. Or ever.

As a skinny, all you have to do is train hard and eat more. Just more. Not even a shit ton more, just slightly more. Not even better. Just more. And if you're training is even halfway decent, as long as youre consitent, you will grow. Slowly, perhaps, but faster if you eat a lot more or eat a lot better, eat better and slepp better. Its a slow but steady upward slog of consitent gains and improvements. As long as youre getting stronger, you're getting better. All you need to do is choke down an extra beef patty, chicken thigh or chciken breast per day. Hell, even an extra slice of choclate cake can do it, if overall protein is good. Thats it. And somewhere along the line from string bean to jacked, some girl will find your proportions really likeable. So you can add getting laid to the mix.

Fatties have years and years of dieting to lsoe weight, never gaining strnegth while dieting, looking fat, cant do pullups, no girls like fat dudes, dieting, cutting , loose skin, binge eating disorders, holidays/vacations where they overeat and gain back fat, then more dieting with no strength gains. Self loathing. No pussy. its a nightmare And then, even if they "make it" every excess calorie is stored as fat before muscle. They are constantly on the brink of getting fat again. And ALWAYS hungry. Day and night hungry. That NEVER does away.

No. skinny is way better.
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>>76660042
Starting out fat is easier IF you know what you're doing (which someone who's new will not)
Otherwise it's easier to start off thin
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>>76660123
It’s funny because when you say that, you don’t mean you’re just looking at Pringles. What you mean is when you EAT Pringles you get fat.

Fit people don’t eat Pringles, you fat fuck.
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Why would you ever want to start out fat? Just so your bench number is a little higher? Can’t imagine starting gym and having to lose weight to see your gains, that’s fucking brutal.
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>>76662170
Not to mention the grotesque stretch marks and quite possibly having loose skin
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fat because recomp is easy as fuck and you look better faster compared to a skellington
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>>76660072
What?
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>>76660042
The latter by far.
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>>76662182
what makes it easy



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