If I focus on lower body exercises really hard, will my upper body shrink over time? Or does that only happen in a caloric deficit and I need to lose weight?
stupid question, but if you gain muscle on your lower body your upper body will look smaller despite not having changed
>>76660755so it's just proportions, looking smaller im comparison? It won't shrink my upper body? Because that would have been great
>>76660747Like I said...You have the lower body and you have no upper body, you got a problem building...wait a minute. You have the upper body, and you have no legs, you got a problem building your legs. You have the upper...you have the lower body and you don't have the upper body, the upper body, it is easier to build. So if you have the lower body and you don't have the upper body, it is easier to build the upper body. You have the upper body and you don't have the legs, you got a problem building the lower body... No, you don't understand. You have the upper body, but you don't have the lower body, you got a problem building downstairs. You got the up- legs on the bottom, it is easier to build on the top, so you don't have much as a problem. Yeah.
>>76660747In theory your upper body could shrink by being in a calorie deficit and losing weight. However, you're already fairly lean, so I don't think your upper body can get much smaller. That's just your bone structure/frame. But your frame doesn't look big at all anyway, so idk what you're worried about. But if you really want your upper body to look even smaller, your best bet would be bulking and doing heavy weightlifting exercises for your lower body. Cuz if you grow muscle in your lower body, it'll make your upper body look smaller by comparison.
>>76660763stroke
>>76660763lmfao
>>76660761>It won't shrink my upper bodyif you already have little muscle and you aren't fat no, I mean you could technically go on a deficit and become a skelly but getting juicy legs would be healthier and it would give you better proportions while still making your upper body appear dainty.Idk if I'm telling this to a tranny trying to pass or something but this is my genuine advice
Your upper body doesnt have enough fat to "shrink". I would excercise regardless if I were you, you have that flabby fat that'll ruin your looks later if you laze at that age.
>>76660747Technically, if you don't train your upper body at all, you will lose muscle (very slowly) as you age. But that would be stupid as one who works out, wouldn't it? Just follow a conventional program instead of attempting to "focus on lower body exercises really hard." If it is a good program, it will have greater amount of work for the lower body anyways. Upper body also isn't just chest and arms. Don't you want a good back?
>>76660786No I don’t want a strong back desu. And I don't like doing arms or chest either. I don't want my upper body to be any bigger
>>76660763based janoy poster
Do you think gaining muscle is a zero sum game in your body or something?
>>76660792If you're actually the petite girl in the picture no amount of training of any kind you will conceivably do (>I don't like doing arms or chest) will noticeably increase the size of your upper body.
kekke spam
>>76660837yeah that is me. My arms look big to me already though
>>76660747It won't shrink, it will just look smaller in comparison to your lower body
>>76660913I'm quite sure the size of your arms is not caused by your huge bulging biceps. If you simply maintain weight and gain some muscle it's possible that they will look slimmer. Training upper body might even help with this, muscles often look leaner than fat.
>>76660913you posted a pic with a black top so we can't even see your arms well but even IF your arms are really too big (unlikely, you probably just have slight body dismorphia) it's definitely because of fat and not because of muscle. A woman has to train hard for years to get noticeably thick muscular arms, and from what we can see you are not muscular at all.In short there's no need for you to avoid training your upper body
>>76661112here if this is better
>>76660747>>76661127all that matters is that you're sexable sweetheart.
>>76660747
>>76661127Girl you better be damn proud of that bod.Focus on what you eat to make your hormones work more efficiently and get more of the shape you want. Go for protein, fats and less carbs like bread.Also, shorty, if you want to see what you look like to men. Hold the camera a lot higher. Don't post those photo's.
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>>76661171mfw thinking about you hurting
>>76661127Your upper body doesn’t need to be any smaller. Some lower body work will probably get you closer to the overall shape you want, but it won’t make your upper body smaller.>>76661171>>76661182It is a bit of a cringe reply but it makes a good point about the photo angle. Men are bigger and taller than you and will naturally see you as being smaller than you see yourself. It’s a good thing to keep in mind not just when taking pictures but when evaluating how others see you.
>>76660792tf you mean you don't want a strong back?so it can fold in half when you squat training your legs?
>>76661171I'm almost 5'9 so a lot of men don't see me like that. Maybe I should even hold the camera lower
>>766612124D femanonship really. Snap your shit up so that you'll need a knight in shining armour to take care of you.>>76661227>dating manlets
>>76661127your body is perfectly fine, if your arms really make you insecure then maybe they'll thin out if you lose a couple of kg but really don't stress on it, 99% of men won't see anything wrong with them.Do a full-body workout with slightly more focus on the lower body and you'll look great
>>76661127unlucky body shape, won't shrink but will look better with more definition and won't get bigger if you focus on lower body
>>76661243but I don‘t wanna do full bodyyyyy. I just want to make my lower body more curvy and soft and squishyI hate seeing ANY muscle on my upper body feels ugly
>>76661260The thing is girl.. You have the lower body and you have no upper body, you got a problem building...wait a minute. You have the upper body, and you have no legs, you got a problem building your legs. You have the upper...you have the lower body and you don't have the upper body, the upper body, it is easier to build. So if you have the lower body and you don't have the upper body, it is easier to build the upper body. You have the upper body and you don't have the legs, you got a problem building the lower body... No, you don't understand. You have the upper body, but you don't have the lower body, you got a problem building downstairs. You got the up- legs on the bottom, it is easier to build on the top, so you don't have much of a problem. Yeah
>>76661260you can't change the width of your hips nor your fat distribution, your best bet is doing the classic thot workouts that are all about legs and especially ass.But doing nothing at all on your upper body is a mistake imo, I've heard enough weak-ass young women complain about back ache and shit because they had zero muscles
>>76660763the leaning tower of pisa wasnt built overnight
>>76661260That's not how the world works.What you want is not possible. Work on your mindset and quit stuff like tiktok.You deal with the genetics you get. And you got a lucky draw.Sleep well, eat well and work out to multiply your strong points.
>>76661260>I hate seeing ANY muscle on my upper body feels uglyIf you actually ONLY do lower body you will most likely look completely disproportional in the end and look weird. You dont need to go all-in on the upper body work, just some upper body work as well and you will most likely look better in the end.
Women being retarded episode 999999999
>how women believe they will look if they accidentally pick up a pair of dumbbells
>>76661127Oh, it's this pasta again
>>76661271I don't wanna do barbell squats anyway. I hate barbell stuff>>76661281How did I get a lucky draw? My build is mid at best>>76661286No my upper body is muscular enough already. I can take pics when I get off work>>76661301I am basically 30% there already
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>>76661369>I am basically 30% there alreadyI'll concede the point if you can post an image showing ANY muscle definition on your upper body. Feel free to pick any body part and flex in any way you want.
>>76661127You seem young. Congrats on not being fat. The best thing you could do is focus on being strong, vigorous and healthy. In your case, that will yield the best results.If you try to hypertrophy one part of your body you WILL require additional calories/nutrition, some of which WILL be parititioned o your upperbody, as either fat or muscle or both, as your unique genetics dictate.If you exercise and train your full body to be healthy and strong (yes this means the basic barbell exercises plus sme cardio) AND you teach yourself to eat a whole foods, real food diet that meets your nutirtional needs, you have the best chance of looking awesome EVEN IF that means your upper body gains some muscle. Most men, even those faggots and highly sus little twink types, like a woman with a "toned" upper body. Toned, whether they/you realize or not simply means muscular and lean. Many men like a woman with wider shouldrs because it enhances the voerall hourglass shape of a woman's body. Hourglass is sexier than bowling pin.Dont try to do anything drastic; dont cut or bulk; learn to exercise and pursue strnegth, ehalth and vigor; learn to cook and eat real whole, nutrotious foods.I prescribe Starting Strength and Pot Roast made in a crock pot (beef, onions, celery, mushrooms, carrots plus potatoes or rice for carbs, as needed). No meme foods or vegan diets or avocado toast.
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>>76661127>this fucking neanderthal againgood grief man, give it a rest
>>76661407do you believe me now? I look like a freak already while doing nothing but work in a warehouse once a week
>>76661471>I look like a freak alreadyNah, your upper body looks fine. I do concede that you might not need that much upper body work but stick arms and muscular legs would look like shit. Same as with dudes who skip leg day, stick legs on an otherwise muscular man looks like shit.
>>76661489I agree on that, I love big thighs on a man. But I love slim upper body on a big lower body. Maybe that’s just me?
>>76661514>But I love slim upper body on a big lower body.Well sure, but still, some definition on the upper body wont be too bad. I think this anon says what Im thinking better than I can >>76661440>Many men like a woman with wider shouldrs because it enhances the voerall hourglass shape of a woman's body. Hourglass is sexier than bowling pin.
>>76660792I don't think you really know what you're saying when you say you "don't want a strong back." Back training is nonnegotiable if you want to train your lower body. Want to do squats, RDL's, or anything that requires balance? Back training, that is rows, chin-ups/pull-ups, or even deadlifts (if you like then), are a must. Your back muscles are also one of the least noticeable unless you're constantly taking pictures of your back or taking your shirt off.Don't want your arms and chest to be any bigger? That's perfectly fine. Do a strength-based program like the SBS Linear Progression in Greg Nuckols' program bundle and swap out bench press and its auxiliary exercises for chin-ups/pull-ups or any accessory exercises you feel like doing (extra core or glute exercises for example). Doing strength based training will keep the amount of muscle mass gained down but will at least prevent you from losing muscle and bone density as you age.For the love god, do not so Starting Strength. It doesn't have enough volume for anyone, and you do not need to learn to power clean.
>>76661127Really weird that you have pictures of trannies saved to your device
>>76661471Literally normal fat distribution. Any untrained persons' arms look like that if they flex. Also no bra, nice.
>>76661471>do you believe me now?I'm honestly unsure. You do admittedly have quite large arms but they're not exactly muscular. Anyway, training legs certainly won't make it worse. Personally I'd do upper body and arms as well and pray that muscle will simply make you look leaner but honestly who knows.
>>76661471>I look like a freak alreadyyou have bigger arms than your average dyel woman but it sounds like you have big body dismorphia issues, you look normal ffs
>>76661471Damn. Your upper body is not "big" at all. Yes, you do have good genetics for biceps. That's it. If you chose to, you could be a sexy bicep freak. As it stands, you can probably skip bicep day. But don't skip either press or pull movements because you do NOT have wide shoulders, clavicles or back. Also, red head. Yeah, you're going to be superfine. Learn to love yourself and accept that you are going to be an awesome version of YOU, unique and differtn from anyone else. Ever. They could never look like you even if they tried.Just get strong and healthy all over, and stay lean. You and your red hair will absolutely break hearts.
>>76661171>girlOH no no no anon. I have some bad news for you. Is this whole thread trolling? You guys realize that's a tranny right? KEK
>>76661869Gotta be trolling. Some of these comments are ridiculous
>>76661127transformers in da skys
>>76661869Come on, do you realise how scary it was for her to post pics? Be better than that.And learn to recognise actual trannies.>>76661471Cute arms. But they aren't big, and you don't have the hormonal makeup to grow them, especially not to grow them quickly. Just get on starting strength, for a woman it has enough upper body to avoid bingo wings, but not more.And it makes people into trexes, all ass and thighs, that's pretty much your goal right? But again, you don't have the hormones to get an extreme effect.Still, there will be an improvement.
>>76661127Why do you keep larping as this tranny? This can't be healthy dude.
>>76662066>>76661956>>76661869it feels like all of these are one obsessed person. So weird
>>76661127Listen here little baby. You're gonna get a lot of hurtful and degrading comments, but that ain't what I'm about. Let me just say, you are perfect the way you are. You hear me sugar? PERFECT. Don't ever change. You deserve anything and everything you want. Stay safe for me, baby girl.>mfw thinking about you hurting
>>76662027>for herLol>>76662145>one persondouble lol
>>76660747Beutiful women.Your upper body won't shrink but your lower body can get bigger
>>76661127Expected worse desuRegular gym workouts will do fine
>>76661151My favourite part as well
>>76661301He's so hot
>>76661471You have body dysmorphia
>>76662262no? My arms look huge compared to my body. …Do they not?
>>76662285Lol no. They're normalEven flexing I can barely see the "mount"
>>76660747One word. Yummy.
>>76660763get water weighted
>>76660747Your upper body wil not shrink but you should prioritize lower body because the fat ass and juicy thighs look great>>76662285>My arms look huge compared to my body.not really, you just have thinner legs. work on them and you'll get better proportions
>>76660763Took me 5 minutes to read that because I was laughing so hard
>>76662145take ur meds foo
>>76660763Kek of the day!
>>76660763HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA
>>76661869>>76661942Yeah lol, swear I saw this photo and shit last week. Shits hilarious.
Calm down, with a body like yours presently, if you are in your early 20's I'd marry you with the intent to have multiple kids assuming you are submissive and feminine. Just keep playing with heavy objects in the gym and you're it.>Source, 33yo, 6', fit and retired
>>76661127Bit boxy, maybe a dude. Go do a bunch of cycling and loose the penis. Then we can talk.
>>76662811Gross no.You're old
>>76661270Is this the lead singer of 3OH!3
>>76662811What’s with these cringy, desperate faggots? Off yourself already.
>>76662816Now I know you're a dude for sure, before I just wondered if you were a tranny. Your body looks weird because you're not supposed to inject horse vaginal secretions
>>76662819Chick posts body for SIMPs, you call out the chad. The state of 4chan
>>76662828>calls out the chadWhat?
>>76662828>Asking out attwhores on 4chan>Chad
>>76660747>Listen here little baby. You're gonna get a lot of hurtful and degrading comments, but that ain't what I'm about. Let me just say, you are perfect the way you are. You hear me sugar? PERFECT. Don't ever change. You deserve anything and everything you want. Stay safe for me, baby girl. >mfw thinking of you hurting
>>76662840It's called tranny filtering, no young babe can resist the independently wealthy chad, so when they do you know they're a dixk chopping fag. Welcome to the infowar, you've been loosing.
>>76660747Idk probably the elliptical wih your arms or something compared to standing all day maybe aot down instead of looking busy for your daddy
>>76662849>infowarbrown hands typed this
>>76660792>be femoid>"hurr durr I don't want my muscles to be too big hurr durr"Nobody has ever accidentally gained too much muscle mass and certainly not a fucking woman lmao. Work out obsessively and you'd be lucky to look like prime Jessica Biel. Are her muscles too big?
>>76662849You're a incel anon
>>76661471This is a fucking man. How is everyone on this board THIS fucking blind.
>>76660747There's no real fundamental issue with your overall physique. You're likely somewhat sedentary and should eat better and exercise to tone your abdomen area. The way you wear your pants is unattractive as well, not flattering to the physique. Looks "dumpy".You have a waist:hip ratio of ~0.758, which is average. 0.6 to 0.7 is widely seen as the most attractive.I'd say you just need to be more fit. Less junk food, some fasting, and climb some mountains or something.
>>76662853"I'm too afraid to play the lottery because Jay Z warned us, if you win ...you'll have too many problems!"
>>76662866>The way you wear your pants is unattractive as well, not flattering to the physique.>>76662860Yeah, the arms are not common in women at all. Even when they artificially put on muscle. That is a man's arm.
>>76661564>no bra, nice.no bra, no titsnot even a pussy
>>76662874And I suppose wearing the pants like that could be an attempt to make the belly button seem higher up than it is.
>>7666282633 years old is old, especially for a early 20s girl. Most people date within a few years of their age. It's okay anon, you might be able to score with some 28 or 30 year old instead
>>76662811>>76662849IF this dude is white (very unlikely) he looks like comic book shop guy from the Simpsons irl
>>76662874Don't care honestly The best blowjob I got was from a ladyboy
>>76662948faggot
>>76662954It sounds like the kind of thing you might allow to happen, then regret afterwards.
Are people really dumb enough to fall for this bait or is op making 90+ posts talking to himself like he often does?
>>76662889That has not been my experience at all, 19-24 acts like they don't want "an old man" but they do. And dudes in their 30's are so mind broken that they think it's "wrong" to go that young. But look at human history, a 10+ year age gap is nothing.
>>76660763Kek, based stroke poster
>>76662962>>76662954I never regret anything that can bring me pleasureTry it. They know how it's done better than any woman
>>76662987Nah women definitely get the icky if you're not rich in your 30s.>But look at human history, Arranged marriages, or again for money
>>76660763You cooked with this one hoss
how do i get wide hips and a fat ass as a lean man
>>76662826you were replying to someone else not me
>>76660747why do women think that if you work out a certain body part you'll lose fat there? i've seen men believe it too but it's particularly common for women. just do your usual lower body. you want your hips to look thick, that's how you do it.
>>76662866yeah I just need to hit the gym again and do some cardio (I love treadmill), tummy, legs and glutes
>>76662876>>76662874this is mental illness
>>76663865>why do women think that if you work out a certain body part you'll lose fat there?You won't lose fat there but when the muscle fills in the fat will sit more favorably in that area, which I guess can be seen as "losing (bad) fat (distribution)"
>>76661127Start doing legs immediately. Building muscle burns fat. And having thicker or more defined legs will make you more attractive. If you keep your diet exactly the same, and start working out, your legs will get bigger and your upper body will “shrink” by both losing fat and because your legs will be larger. Your upper body will actually get smaller. Core and lower back work won’t make you grow, but it will make your waist way more toned and “shrink” too. Also, you look like a shapeless child. Hit the gym immediately or get comfortable with settling for someone average at best.
>>76662860so? The advice doesn't change
>>76661127Unironically, chest exercises will make your boobs look bigger. And perkier.
>>76661471You have really big hands
>>76663044ladyboys are straight for a blowjob but anal is GAY
>ctrl + f "tits or gtfo">not a single fucking resultThis place have really gone down the gutter.
>>76664082why would I want to see a guy's tits?
>>76661471oh its julie, I didnt know you dyed your hair
>>76660747Unless you deliberately treat your upper body as comatose, as long as you're gaining weight (including muscle) your upper body will stay the sameYour waist might look relatively thinner though
>>76664089Are you retarded or something? tits or gtfo also filters trannies.
>>76664082>>76664113>asking for tits on a blue board
>>76664113let's be real those comments allways just get ignored and don't deter anyone, be it woman or tranny
>>76664121>muh blue board>jannie heeeelp meeee!
>>76660763It piss
>>76660766Newfag. Go back
