Are these a scam?
yep I think so. If collagen was so useful for your skin, people would have figured this out a long time ago. It has been around for forever
>>76662679Just eat jello and stewed meats
Yes, you need hydrolyzed collagen, dissolved in boiling water
>>76662679any candified "gummy" supplement is a scam and probably contains 0% active ingredient
>>76662679The big question here is, does dietary collagen = collagen in your skin Maybe I'll ask the robots
>>76662679Why tf would would you want to glow? Are you a homosexual?
>>76662679Why are white people obsessed with eating everything in gummie format? Nigga, just eat food
Supplement gimmicks like gummies are almost always a scam, because they overcharge the shit out of you relative to the quantity and ingredient quality can be suspect at best.
Don't know about the gummy part of it, but I've been taking collagen and my knee stopped hurting when squatting. >inb4 placeboNot an argument
>>76662679Probably overpriced compared to a powder, but shit does work.>>76664822Collagen just isn't that concentrated in food. Sure you can eat chicken skins and beef tendons and shit, but I mostly just put the pepetide powder into jello.
>>76664963Ok then whats your excuse for vitamin and creatine gummies
>>76664963So are you going to actually answer his question
>>76662679Yes they are a scam. They contain less than a gram of collagen. >>76662704They did figure it out and it is useful.>>76664714Yes it does
>>76665342>Yes it doesBut does it = more collagen for your skin when compared to consumption of other proteins that net you equivalent amino acids? I doubt it. If you compare it to a control group or to some other experimental group eating a shitty protein source maybe you see some effect. But I can’t imagine people aren’t better off simply consuming more higher quality proteins. Collagen’s actual amino acid profile is pitiful.
>>76665519Speculation
>>76664951I used to be able to click my left knee on command as a party trick, and that went away after I started drinking bone broth.
>>76665519https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32436266/ yes it does. But go ahead and say some stupid shit about eating raw liver and ignore specificity.
>>76666075I'm literally too fucking retarded to understand a scientific studyWill it help my skin? Gelatin works?
>>76666126Yes x2 regular gelatin just kinda low-collagen overall.
>>76666168>x2 regular gelatinI should eat two gelatin packages?
Guys can I just eat jello
>>76666168Ignore this retard.>>76666126>>76666264Yes taking collagen precursors will make your skin noticeably smoother and your joints hurt less. Just try it out and you'll see the difference in like a month honestly. Naked advanced is pretty good and so is Vital farms
>>76666075Do you have a specific primary source citation that collagen performs better than an amino acid matched (or superior amino acid profile) protein?
>>76666352>does collagen perform better than an amino acid match>amino acid matchedCollagen is amino acids you fucking retard. If you matched the amino acids you would have.....Collagen. How can you be this stupid? Someone should study you.
>>76666374Maybe could have explained it better, I'm talking about a protein that will give you a (roughly) equal or greater amount of the amino acids present in collagen. Not necessarily the exact same amino acid profile. Do you have a primary source for research on this? I ask because this is would be essential to determine whether there is something specific to collagen that provides the benefit studies show in skin or if it's just a matter of the subjects receiving a greater amount of amino acids required to produce collagen (and therefore, any sufficiently quality protein would have the same or a greater effect)
>>76666333Why my post has a (you) on your screenshot?>Yes taking collagen precursors will make your skin noticeably smoother and your joints hurt less. Just try it out and you'll see the difference in like a month honestly. Naked advanced is pretty good and so is Vital farmsMy joints are fine but I think my skin could get some help.I'm a third worlder tho. So expensive supplements aren't for me
>>76662679definetly a scam since you can just throw some beef bones in the pressure cooker for 30 minutes for collagen and much more
>>76666551What are your thoughts on cow's eyes?
>>76666561I follow what this schizo says, organ meats are supposedly high in toxins https://www.drlwilson.com/ARTICLES/FOOD.DAILY.htm
>>76662861Is gelatin dissolved in boiling water the same thing?
>>76662679Powders are a scam so that industry can make a profit. Taking these is a net negative.
>>76666575They are highly toxic from normal animals which have bad living circumstances and lots of toxins and stress.From well kept animals they are good for the body. Nonetheless I wouldn't eat too much of it.
>>76662679Yes, and literally 100s of Youtube videos have already been made about these scams, so why are you still asking the question?
>>76662679If you eat hair, your body doesn't say >Oh sick, fast track that through to the scalpIf you eat collagen or gelatine it just gets broken down as protein
>>76667556>If you eat collagen or gelatine it just gets broken down as proteinYeah, that's how digestion works. Did you have a point?
>>76662679I thought for the longest time vitamin gummies were BS, but I no longer think that's the case. calcium + d3 helped healed my sports hernia and muscle strains. I don't know if collagen gummies work.
>>76662704I regrow hair when i lose it to stress and sleep deprivation by eating vitamins fats and collagens(protein) and being on a bulk without going insane at the gym until at a deficit.
>>76669346>collagen being a proteinYou barely get any protein synthesis unless at a surplus for multiple days on a row. Ill get mpd balding not just thinning and yeah suck it again hungrycucks, you only lose mostly fat for so many days after being high bmr.
Just use tretinoin
They say glycine helps with longevity
Is there any point in collagen if you're in your twenties? I can see the use for when I'm old and naturally low in collagen, but it feels like a waste of money when your young.
>>76662679yes you need 10g a day minimum and you're not getting that in gummies
>>76666699No, hydrolized means its been broken down into the smallest indigestible parts, but i go a step futher and boil it, so its definitely absorbed.Making your own collagen means it isn't hydrolized, so less effective.
>>76669649I've seen slight improvements in skin texture even after a single large dose.