I was due for a cleaning so I made an appointment, only to be told I need to have x-rays done. I don't want my head to be irradiated so I said I'd opt for a visual exam but they told me it was mandatory.apparently this is common practice and dentists basically force you to get x-rays. What if I don't want my head to be shot through with particle beams? what then? how do I get my mouth professionally cleaned?I tried looking this up but of course the only discussions were vaxxhead redditors who apparently learned nothing from the last few years and pulled the whole "do you REALLY think you know more than PROFESSIONALS" meme.also oral health thread
i questioned my dentist about this and he insisted the xrays for the teeth are less radiation exposure than walking down a city street
they have to have informed consent. your dentist is required to explain to you why an x-ray is mandatory for a cleaning. if he won't do it without an x-ray, then find another dentist that will
>>76663727I saw a lot of bitching about "muh license" and "muh liability" but if the dentist explains the risks of not getting an x-ray and the patient accepts those risks then there's no problem. no dentist has ever lost their license for not doing an x-ray, redditors are retarded.>>76663724pic related, if that were the case then there wouldn't be documented research linking dental x-rays to cancers in the head and neck
If I didn't get xrayed, they wouldn't have known to test my rear gum and found out that my wisdom tooth had been pushing and obliterated the bone. Getting it surgically removed or else it just keeps pushing and destroys my teeth.
>>76663733yeah great, the issue is if the patient does not want something, then they shouldn't be forced to do it. if a doctor wants to treat patients without listening to them they should've been a vet.
>>76663733how do you know you were gaslighted by Big Teeth into getting an unnecessary and costly procedure?
>>76663721They will keep your extracted teeth also. You can't even keep your own teeth.One xray is ok. Don't give blood, get off the organ donor list, fluoride is a sham, root canals will give you a myriad of health issues.
>>76663721They want to check if your jaw is getting eaten from the inside
>>76663721Xrays are usually just an easy upsell.
>>76663745>Don't give blood, get off the organ donor list, fluoride is a shamcheck, check, and checkredpill me on root canals anon
>>76663745>don't get off the organ donor's listthe alternative is dialysis or dying retard
>>76663736How to tell me you are obese without actually saying it.Get on the scale, fatty.>>76663738Because they show you the xrays. And I did feel an imflammation in that area a while back.
>>76663745Root canals are expensive as hell. I have heard bad things too, like not even guaranteed to fix the problem
>>76663776>they show you the X-raysyeah surely it isn't possible to create a fake image
>>76663776>uuhhh you don't want your brain irradiated? you must be fat!try to imagine how fucking retarded you sound right now nigga
>>76663804I think hes referring to you not listening to your doctor
>>76663808My doctor has never told me I need to lose weight. In fact no doctor I've ever gone to has ever told me I need to change anything about my lifestyle. I've only ever gone to see a doctor for acute injuries or to get a referral to a specialist, or to have them order blood tests so I can track markers.If my doctor ever told me I needed to lose weight, I'd do it. One doctor put me on statins until I read more about them and decided I didn't want to do that to my brain so I got off them.
>>76663820ok
>>76663773You need to learn how to read, man.
>>76663721Didn't read your post but nano hydroxyapatite toothpaste works a lot better than (((fluoride)))The nips have been using it for a while but it's been catching on recently in the US. The nips also make chewing gum with nano hydroxyapatite and xylitol both of which are good for your teeth and gums. NASA developed nHA a while ago for astronauts a long time ago but the dentites have been suppressing its usage
>>76663849since you clarified your point I know what you mean, but grammatically it states that one shouldn't donate blood or get off the organ donor's list. if you don't recognize that then your reading comprehension is below high school graduate level.
>>76663880regular hydroxyapatite is betternano is too small and gets in places it shouldn't. emerging research is showing it being harmful
>>76663724Ask him why, if this is true, you need to wear a vest to protect you during it.
>>76663955It's for bitchy faggots who are scared o x-rays in amounts smaller than a plane flight.
Is it true most mouthwashes are basically falvored water?
>>76664140Yes, mouthwashes that are truly good are expensive as fuck, contain 0 alcohol, and stain your teeth if used for too long so you cannot use them except after some dental surgery where you cannot clean that area any other way.
>>76663721If you went to the dentist, then that means that you concede that he knows more about oral health than you do, in which case it makes no sense to refuse the typical, routine, and approved screening procedures.If you DO think that you know better than him, then you would never have gone to an oral health specialist in the first place. So you need to sit down in a chair with no screens around, and no stimulation or noise, and think through whether or not what you've just done made literally any sense.
jesus christ man are /fit/ards really afraid of dental x-rays? its about as radioactive as standing outside in the sun for a day. since you all are amerimutts i understand the skepticism that people are trying to buy shit from you, but as i live in a white first world european country, i can tell you that this shit is free and there is no monetary incentive for them to give you x rays. its just useful and not dangerous at all.
>>76664284For me its not about the fear more so if I just want a cleaning done, I shouldn't be forced to do x-rays. Dentist cleaning teeth shouldn't deny service because of that.
>>76664305Why do you need cleaning done? How about clean your own teeth, retard.
>>76664311For plaque buildup that normal brushing and flossing doesn't get rid of
>yay a dental health thread>oh it's all schizo nonsense
>>76664315Learn the terms before you use them, schizo.
>>76663721https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVCaYyUWWSw
>>76663721>What if I don't want my head to be shot through with particle beams? what then? how do I get my mouth professionally cleaned?You don't.
>>76663777I had one root canal done on a very sensitive tooth that had a filling, the guy got in there to replace the filling and gets the old one out and declares tooth is fucked, need root canal, it was literally exactly the same after.
>>76664461amerimutt healthcare
>>76664464yep
>>76664315You wouldn't have that plaque build up if you flossed and brushed in a way that was actually effective.
>>76664305>For me, it's more about telling professionals how to do their job when I have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about.
Is it worth the thousands of dollars fixing an overbite?
>>76664633No. It literally has zero effect on your health.its cosmetic and nobody can tell except you.
>>76664515I just don't want the xrays man I'm just here for the cleaning whats the big deal
>>76664633Nigga the guy in the pic has like hollywood smile, but yeah you would giga improve your jawline - then again like two fucking years of recovery? like 15-20k for that shit? all sort of possible complications like nerve damage and bone necrosis, idk man, if you are early 20s than sure go for it, but if like in your 30s aint no way cuz
>>76663736Maybe because the patient is an idiot that doesn't know what they're doing?
>>76664251I don't have a pneumatic toothbrush, dumbass. cut out the smarmy reddit faggotry.
>>76664641It's crazy how people will lose their minds when a patient just wants to refuse a totally optional service. They simply short circuit at the concept of somebody perhaps even slightly going against ESTABLISHED S@YENCE!!
>>76665021Really weird how you addressed none of what I said.
>>76665029If you knew how to read you'd see that I did.How many boosters are you on right now?
>>76665032I'm sorry you're so upset.
>>76665034That's at least 4 boosters then. Dismissed.
>>76665053>>76665034
>>76665056>>76665053
>>76664324>published studies are schizo nonsensethis is why everyone hates redditors btwhttps://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6341170/
>you're dismissed>keeps replying
>>76665064>gets humiliated and unequivocally BTFO>scared to reply and keep getting assravaged
>If you're going to be difficult, you can go somewhere else.Based!
>Can't help but keep replying despite openly saying he's done replying.
>>76665090>continues posting in a thread after getting destroyed>surprised when the creator of the thread gets alerted to a new replythe vaxxbrain in action, everyone
>>76665087>don't want your brain irradiated for no reason??>w-well you're just being difficult!!fucking lmao, you niggas are a joke
>>76665107why did you go outside and get your brain irradiated by the sun
>>76663721I'm in the same boat, except I don't do cleanings because they always flouridate me. My gums are bleeding for months when I brush or floss and I should go to the dentist but at this point I'll just ride out my death.Good on you mate for sticking to your principles and don't let big DENTAL fill you with the X-ray.
>>76663724This is actually true because the xrays are calibrated such as to cancel out space radiation rays and radiation from coal when they hit each other.
>>76664324>oral health thread>EVIL SATANIC DOCTORS ARE TRYING TO STEAL YOUR LIFE ESSENCE AND PREVENT YOU FROM GETTING CHAD-JAW, OVERDOSE ON RANDOM VITAMINS AND ALSO DRINK BLEACH, LOOK AT THIS ONE JPEG OF BADLY PHOTOSHOPPED MUSTACHE MAN
>>76665146brush your teeth tonight
>>76665063>trust the science>NO DON'T TRUST THE SCIENCE>actually, trust it, but only if it matches up with my own paranoid beliefs?
>>76665147>tonightbro I brush them three times a day
>>76663721vitamins K2+D3 are all you need
>>76665158direct application of k2 works better than pills
>>76665158>>76665163looks like chocolate, now kill yourself
>>76665151do you realize you're doing the exact same thing right nowexcept for the fact there is no published study that establishes dental x-rays are safe or disproves any link between dental x-rays and cancers in the head and neckit's simply the nebulous concept of the "medical community" at a "concensus" (the same "concensus" that killed Ignaz Semmelweis or allowed doctors to perform surgery on babies without anesthesia up until the 1980s)
>>76665146>OVERDOSE ON RANDOM VITAMINS AND ALSO DRINK BLEACH, LOOK AT THIS ONE JPEG OF BADLY PHOTOSHOPPED MUSTACHE MAN>>76665158there he ishow many times has that jpeg been posted? 500? a thousand?
>got white teeth>never a cavity in my life since my baby teeth fell out>floss>gums are still receding at the bottom cause I apparently brush too hardgod dammit
>>76663721>heckin xrayyou receive more radiation when you take an airplane somewhere.
>>76665163conventional food lacks vitamins or has synthetic vitamins added
>>76665178Probably floss too hard instead.I injured my gums the other day by snapping a floss between teeth and now they receded like a milimeter there.
>>76665175bitch who cares you're getting literally one (1) x-ray, imagine being the ones who have to work around that shit all day long.God forbid you ever break or fracture any bone in your body.
>>76663721BrushFlossMouthwash before going to bedTartar removal every 6 months at the dentistThat's everything I do now. Wish I had done it since my teenage years, I could've avoided a bunch of fillings, but I wasn't aware of how important oral hygiene is.
>>76665158This plus Borax (boron helps with tooth and bone health) and magnesium.
>>76665178Use a soft brush. Never go for medium or hard
>>76665181>synthetic vitamin bad>solution? consume synthetic vitamin directly
>>76665194As gigachad once said:>I'm proud of my parentsAnd I'm not a gigachad.
>>76665199Been taking it for years now. No cavities.
>>76665197>x-rays bad>anyways, drink this rat poison/laundry detergent
>>76665205never took it, no cavities either.
>>76665212https://archive.org/details/the-borax-conspiracy-walter-last
>>76665192an x-ray for a fracture (I've had one before) is medically necessary. an x-ray to clean the surface of my teeth is not medically necessary.
>>76665234Cleaning surface of your teeth isn't medically necessary, fuck off retard.
>>76665223>schizokinono thanks
>>76665234They want to see if your wisdom teeth are growing in funny, if there's anything happening between the gumline, or even if there are cavities between your teeth that aren't immediately visible.Why do you think dentists would scan your teeth and jaw? Because they're evil and want to sacrifice your life essence to Moloch?
>>76665256>They want to see if your wisdom teeth are growing in funny, if there's anything happening between the gumline, or even if there are cavities between your teeth that aren't immediately visible.okay, and I want to refuse it. Why is this such a big issue to you?>>76665240sure, but if I go in for an optional service I don't need other optional services tacked on.
>>76665258Because you're wasting their time.
>>76665258>okay, and I want to refuse it. Why is this such a big issue to you?It's not, I didn't make this thread. You did.Why refuse it?
>>76665304Because he's a retarded superficial retard.
>>76665304>It's not, I didn't make this thread. You did.yes, and you came in this thread and started shitting your pants because of something that has nothing to do with you. So again, why does it bother you so much that I don't want x-rays?>>76665266I'm saving them time since I don't need x-rays done.
>>76663769not him but check out this schizohttps://www.drlwilson.com/articles/dentistry.htmapparently root canals become seedbeds of infection approximately 100% of the time
>>76663721coconut oil pullingxylitol gum or powder swishing japanese hydroapaxitite toothpastewaterpikand most importantly POOP everyday, preferably 2 or 3 times but minimum once. Why? because when you dont poop at night the bacteria from your shit infested colon creeps up into your mouth and eats away at your teeth. its called reverse peristalsis, look it up blud. “I knew a dentist who stopped doing periodontal surgery when he found that his patients were more easily cured with a laxative.” - Raymond Peat
>>76663721HOLY FUCK EVER SINCE I WAS 13 I WANTED TO BE THE 'EXPERT' IN A THREAD AND NOWS MY CHANCEokay so i'm going thru an X-ray program right now and one of the topics in class was explaining to x-ray hesitant patients the actual danger of X-rays and one of the methods is the BERT method>pic relatedso basically you get radiation every day from naturaul background radiation which is a combination of sunlight and Radon that leaks from the ground which is basically a radioactive material (think uranium) that decays and leaks up thru the ground and often times leaks thru basement cracks which is really bad and you can almost always go to your local health department for a free RADON TESTING KIT to see if it's happening in ur housebut yeah another way to look at it is that sun burns are so much fucking worse although UV rays and X-ray are still different you can obviously get cancer from repetitive sun burns the same way you can get cancer from repetitive x-rays and most people don't even care about sun burnsall in all, dental x-rays are like THE lowest radiation dose x-ray you could get
>>76668565>dude you get radiation from the sun n shiet onto your skin which is adapted to it therefore acute radiation doses onto your thyroid and salivary glands is ok brorespond to the below study or I'll assume you're just another know-nothing vaxxheadhttps://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6341170/
>>76663724Meanwhile walking down the street it doesn't touch your thyroid, the dentists lay in bed with CT scan, xrays and ultrasounds aren't that bad but dentists today barely know how to use a dental tool. Also CT scans are the ones that go around the head while xray is just teeth and bone which isn't that bad, they act like this but don't ask about how many you've had, most cancer patients have had CT scans and in a girl under 1 years old the chance of cancer from a CT scan is 1 in 1000. Getting a chest CT scan is like getting 10 chest xrays and getting a thallium heart scan is like getting 1000.When you go get a pack of cigarettes there's a warning label for cancer but you go into the doctors office and they don't tell you the comparative risk is like getting in a car accident driving 2500 miles or smoking 1400 cigarettes. You shouldn't have more than 1 CT scan a year ideally less than 3 a decade, more important the younger you are because more time for cell division which is fucked considering they are doing head CTs on kids I've had like 15 CT scans at 19 and they never told me about the radiation risk don't be naive they won't tell you either. I hear sonograms and ultrasounds are less invasive also some people claim lidocaine prevents bone growth and periodontal issues/bone loss is the main issue of dentistry even not chewing can cause bone loss it needs stimulation.>>76663732They charge like 800 dollars for it and CT scans are mostly for major dental surgery. They act like they won't diagnose sinus issues = what that's retarded a CT scan won't see the sinus, medical people including optometrist work on commission glasses sellers at Luxottica make like 1.5% commission ontop of base pay they are like car salesman with salary but they get bonuses for selling x amount. Today it's a mix of new dentists being incompetent cheating anime fans like most medical students and they mostly rely on scans.
>>76663733I think you should get CT scans before major dental surgery but you need to be your own advocate insurance will only pay for once CT scan a year and dentists have tried to give me 3 this year and they don't specify they just say its "taking some scans" it's super deceptive they say they will argue with insurance for them to pay it and that means $800 bill. You can't get CT scans that go around the head for every cleaning, use it to identify serious issues once every few years but seriously it's projected there will be 140k cancers from CT scans per year, risk being lowest in elderly. Honestly consider mental tourism and ask for the full mouth dental service which implies flossing in-between the teeth and finding in-between cavities. I say nip dental problems in the bud because you can use the roots to anchor implants(don't get bridges) but if you get bone loss it's going to be bone graft tier potentially gum disease is seriously not good
>>76668565This is deceptive because the CT they try to make you do is the panoramic one and I've literally had dentists act like I was an inconvenience saying I can't use these xrays because I didn't want panoramic CT scan also you typically don't shield the thyroid with a lead plate only your chest
>>76668565>>76668699I'm so fucked bros.
>>76668722How many have you had? Just limit how much in the future
>>76663724After covid I don't trust anything.
>>76664140Just do oil pulling with coconut oil, spit it out in the garbage not the sink tho or else the oil will clog it.
>>76668775xrays? idk a couple dozen maybe. But the thallium heart scan? I've had one, so essentially I've had 1000+ xrays worth of radiation exposure.
>>76668802What was the results of the thallium heart scan and do you regret it in retrospect?
One xray scan a year isn't going to do anything, getting sunburned once is orders of magnitude more risky
>>76665158Someone needs to market this and make billions.
>>76668811>What was the results of the thallium heart scan and do you regret it in retrospect?Inconclusive, and yeah.
>>76668816Drop the seed oils if you get sunburned easily
>>76668816Meanwhile the bioload of the rays in CT scans are 2x more than the radiation of Hiroshima and Nagasaki which is the metric the radiation exposure by age cancer risk model came from. https://youtu.be/e-L28fyueVI?si=hPp2VfJfylcwJfQz
>>76668838Also anons any Oil pulling stories?
There's a girl in my class with crooked and crowded teeth. I think it's the symmetry, but she looks cute when smiling. I'm afraid to say or compliment her as she might take it as condescending. Plus it would be weird to say it to her in the middle of class.
>>76668822Wrong. UV forms dimers with your DNA which is what increases cancer risk. Seed oils are irrelevant>>76668838That's why you get CTs as little as possible. One every 5-10 years is fine.
https://www.livescience.com/health/keratin-extracted-from-sheeps-wool-repairs-teeth-in-breakthroughChew on your beard hair. More effective than fluoride.
>>76668839I'm suspicious of the practice simply because it gets dressed up in a fancy name like "oil pulling" when it's just "swishing oil around your mouth". You're not pulling shit, so stop calling it that.
>>76668858I haven't tried it I am asking a question dude
the rads aint the issue, its more the fact that they'll try to up charge you on the xrays. even if ive just had them done 3 months prior theyll try to trick me into doing them again and straight up lie to me that i didn't do them last time.
>>76668889Literally this it's expensive and insurance will rightly argues its unnecessary
>>76668565>>76668699>Also CT scans are the ones that go around the head while xray is just teeth and bone which isn't that bad, they act like this but don't ask about how many you've had>I've had like 15 CT scans at 19 and they never told me about the radiation riskdo you have any idea how fucked up it is to be not only be proven wrong but to realize in that same moment i am also the victim of unnecessary CT scans at a very young age every 6 months straight to the skullWHY THE FUCK DID THEY CALL IT X-RAYS WHEN IT WAS A CT SCAN???
>>76668908schizos win this roundnever fucking take a """"Medical proffesionals"""" word for it ever again
>>76668908Isn't there a huge difference between an xray and a giant ass CT scan machine
>>76668858oil pulling doesn't involve swishing like mouthwash. you put oil in your mouth and "pull" it by sucking it between your teeth back and forth. most people are doing it wrong.>>76668839it was the only thing that actually made a difference in my morning breath. I used to have really bad morning breath and nothing I tried fixed it, couldn't face people while talking to them out of paranoia etc.
>>76668908>>76668919the absolute worst part about this is since i'm in X-ray part of my job is to go up to surgery and although i haven't used it yet, there's a device called the 'dental gun' (pic related) where even in surgery all they fucking need is a stationary image, obviously they take multiple images but the dose is REALLY fucking low, this is what they're actually talking about when they say "dental X-rays are low dose as fuck" not those goddamn CT scans they did on me and OPthe fact that surgery doesn't need very complicated shit yet dentists just get a set and forget machine where the trade off of the learning curve is giving cancer to little kids>>76668927my retarded ass didn't even consider the spinning CT machine and just spit out the goddamn propaganda they fed me
>>76668908It really is fucked up, schizo Gods win again. Daily reminder when Truman started to wake up they told him to take his meds.
>>76668944I haven't experienced the gun probably not bad idrk, but yeah I get the one where its the plate in-between my molar/tooth and jar and the xray goes upto it and images it which at most is only radiation in your jaw bone vs your salvitory glands and thyroid
>>76668908you're a dumbass>conveniently leaves out the panoramic x-ray dose chartwhat do you even gain from intentionally lying?keep in mind panoramic xrays are what the dentists use, there's no cuts like CT its just one image that's really wide so they only see the surface hence why it is low dose despite seemingly being like CT
>>76668817Opposite is true. Keeping the mass ignorant about vitamins repairing teeth is making dentists billions. They farm your teeth for optimal profits. First comes the fillings, then comes the root canal, bridge, and finally implant.
>>76663721x-ray is harmless but it's another money grab even if you have public health care and it's a free service>>76663880fingoals use xylitol>>76664140>mutts don't have ingredients list printed on their productsyou guys get scammed hard
>>76669515>x-ray is harmlesshttps://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6341170/dental x-rays are CONCLUSIVELY, 100% UNEQUIVOCALLY linked to cancers of the head and neck
radheads ITT got real quiet lmao, schizos win again
>>76663955My new dentist doesnt even put a vest on me. Am I cooked?
>>76664305>go for checkup>get all clear, your teeth are great anon>we'll just do a cleaning>that'll be $280 thank, see you in 6mths
>>76664461>exactly the same afterkek, sorry anon, bu this is my fear, to go through a root canal, be $2k lighter in the wallet and for the problem to still exist. Definitely try get 2nd opinion before paying for expensive dental work.
>>76667399>reverse peristalsisIve never wanted to not google something this bad ever.
>>76669657oh its not bad its fancy words for barfing
I had my teeth scaled(?) 2 weeks ago and man having a nice smile just feels so good (also the feeling of the machine of my teeth/gum was so unpleasant it was a nightmare, but 40 bucks for it is worth it)They're still a bit yellow unfortunately and I don't know how to properly whiten them (been brushing between 2-3 times a day, and once a week with baking soda on top on the toothpaste)They're a bit crooked on the bottom when one is slightly receded but I don't care anymore Still have all my wisdom teeth, perhaps that's it fucking my tooth, I had braces for few years and while it did helped a lot it's not 100% perfect
woulda preferred I never got braces my teeth used to look beastly in a way I thought was cool now they're just 95% right with the remaining flaw sticking out like a sore thumb
>teeth look fucked and discolored but are otherwise healthywhat can i do to make they look whiter without fucking them up
>>76663721I quit dentists for a while so I'll probably clean them myself in a few months. Do that.
>>76663724Probably complete bullshit. The medical profession constantly gaslights and denies accountability for the harm that they do onto their patients.Procedures and medications that were considered safe for decades turn out to be very harmful all the time, millions die, and they pretend like it never happened.And a lot of the time, something that is considered "safe" is just something that doesn't immediately give harsh symptoms. Your health could be going down the drain months or years later, and they won't be accountable.Only the gullible and NPCs with no internal monologue take their word as gospel.It doesn't matter how educated they are, as a CUSTOMER, they are there to serve you, and you are supposed to judge critically whether they have your best interests in mind.Anecdotal, but the first time I got an x-ray ever for my teeth, I suffered a horrible headache the next 2-3 days. Never doing it again.
