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Why is /fit/ so against keto cultists, but nobody ever mentions their even more retarded cousins?

>fasting cultists

They literally think picrel. is ok.
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>>76668751
pic related is u rn. eat less fatty
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>"Just detox bro"
>"Autophagy, lol"
>"testosterone boosts after a week bro, trust me... You'll build muscle actually"

and then, when you run into issues associated with LITERALLY FUCKING STARVING, they say
>"Hair loss? it grows back"
>"dizzy and lightheaded? electrolytes bro, need moar salt"
>"X fat guy fasted 120 days, that means it's totally safe bro, nobody lies on the internet"

An actual starvation cult that somehow never gets criticized, yet is allowed to criticize everyone else, because they're so "disciplined".
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>>76668763
I put 15 kg doing omad I'm bigger than before, and I'm not a fat ass
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Because there isn't a fastschizo posting his delusional schizobabble everywhere and making worthless threads all day.
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>>76668751
>>76668763
literally no one is saying to fast when you're underweight
you are fighting a strawman
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>>76668751
Because fasting cultists are worse by a mile.
Keto is at the least good in theory it's just bad in practice but you can say that about any diet fat people pick up.
The core of ketogenic dieting is to produce more ketones which means restricting carbs and protein. This is why it is shit for lifting.

It's almost ironic protein-sparing modified fasting is probably the most effective way to cut fat m. It's just eating protein and just enough fat to absorb your vitamins and maybe some calorically insignificant roughage so you can shit. You get no where near keto levels of ketone production and you don't get the lean-mass losses of fasting. It's just entirely eclipses both those things.
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>>76668751
This fat bitch in my office lost 30 lbs years ago on keto and has since gotten even fatter but she is a full blown keto evangelist now. I assume most of the keto and fasting shills here are just insane super fats.
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>>76668758
Source?
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>>76669566
>you are fighting a strawman
No dude. The fasting cult literally sees actual starvation as a good thing.

>Doesn't matter if you're 400 pounds or 120.

Whenever you mention it's risks, people point to Angus Barbieri as an example of how safe it is. Nevermind that he claimed to also take vitamins during it, the entire thing smells like BULLSHIT.

I've fasted many times. It has positive effects, yes of course. But those effects are also associated with WEIGHT LOSS. The rest of the effects people mention is chalked up completely to placebo, braggery (people view it as a competition), and indoctrination.

Go on any fasting forum. They'll brigade you, ban you, and curse your name for daring to even hint that literally starving yourself isn't the best idea. It's exactly like the keto cult, but even more extreme. At the far end you got people doing 'dry fasts' where they go without water for 3+ days, because some Russian guy said you "detox 3x as fast bro", or do urine fasts where they literally, and I do mean this --
>drink their own fucking piss for sustenance
Because it has "healing powers".

Fuck all you faggots for not calling this shit out. You need to stop falling for these insane memes.
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>>76669599
They're fatasses who can't give up their favorite foods (lard, processed lard, and fried lard). So they go on insane yo-yo diet binges where they binge and then 'purge' by doing these extreme practices which are doomed to fail.

Or they think they're "inherently broken" because they can't control themselves calorie restricting on processed garbage.

>I made the mistake of going on reddit (I am sorry, I know) and got brigaded for telling people to eat whole foods. Multiple people asked for a "source" for my fucking claims.
When I also made the mistake of mentioning I was a healthy weight, they accused me of "judging them". I was trying to be helpful and not at all critical btw.

I fucking hate them. Incorrigible retards who seem complacent with being perpetual failures.
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>>76669623
>>Doesn't matter if you're 400 pounds or 120.
again, no one says this
not a single soul
i'm not reading past this, you are just making shit up to be mad about
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>>76668751
Every time I fast I get a massive headache. And then after a week, I've only lost 3 pounds. I don't get it.
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>>76669637
There's nothing wrong with crash dieting as long as you don't gain more on the rebound than you lost and can do it at regular enough interval you keep making progress. People who cut aggressively have been shown more likely to keep the weight off long term. The whole light to moderate deficit crowd has been btfo repeatedly this last decade.
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>>76669728
70% likelihood of being a bot post.

30% likelihood of being said cultist.
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>>76668751
They are mostly the "people" against keto and cico.
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>>76668751
Fasting is based and only braindead turboniggers think otherwise
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>>76669956
Based on being a gullible fat fuck, yeah.
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>>76669956
>>76670465
I don't know why people keep perpetuating this anti-knowledge, anti-gnosis angle. Here's the deal, CICO is bullshit info fed to the general population to keep them fat.

Any elite athlete or actor/actress knows that the easiest way to lose weight and maintain a lean figure is keto/LCHF coupled with fasting (which initiates the ketogenic state anyways). It's common knowledge among ""them"" and I'm sorry you either didn't get the memo, or are continuing to be ignorant, or are willingly spreading false information.
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>>76668763
>>76669623
All done by low iq mouth breathers who can't tell you how they'd feel if they didn't have breakfast this morning. People always looked at me like I was neutering animals with my bare hands when I talked about fasting. You can try to explain how to do it safely in autistic detail, but they literally can't comprehend not stuffing their faces.
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Fasting gave me gallstones that needed a very annoying surgery.
If you are fasting, you ARE making gallstones.
If they haven't descended to your bile duct and caused an attack yet, they will in the future.
It's not worth it.
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>>76670566
The easiest way to lose weight is to not fucking eat, you idiot. Those "elites" use chemicals, drugs, and surgeries to lose weight.
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>>76668751
we do both fuck ass nigga
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>>76670566
Ahh yes, the elite athletes doing keto.



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