Is there a way to prevent this sort of "blocky" look with training, or is it all genetics? I saw a video of Frank Zane claiming that lifting hard will give you this look instead of creating the taper
>>76671765>prevent this sort of "blocky" lookWhy? Lumberjack maxxing is lindy.
>>76671765What blocky look ? It's all fat and water. Your obliques will never grow that much to overshadow your lats unless it's all you train. Zane and zyzz were twinks on steroids, i guess there's your advice : be a twink on steroids
He has some fat around the waist if he lost would look less blocky. Also looks like he did some peds so thay always gives a less natural look
>>76671765>avoid the blocky lookHow about NO
>>76671765Just don't do full body powershitter movements and you'll be fine.
>>76671817you mean like bench lol
what other gay stuff will zoomies come up with
>>76671765You’ll never be as big as this guy so why are you asking?
>>76671765>Is there a way to prevent this sort of "blocky"Be a low-test bitch. You have that covered.
>>76671765He's just fluffy. If he cut down he'd have an insane taper, you can see how wide his shoulders and lats are.
He looks awesome what are you talking about lol. He could lose like 10 pounds of fat and look shredded
>>76671765I think it has to do more with frame tgan types of training. So gebetics, mostly. I guess you could try to maximize your v taper with specific exercises, but 90% of your apoerance will be dictated by frame/genetics.
>>76671765I was pretty concerned about my obliques getting too big. I cut back on all heavy one handed movements, especially one handed rows, and I cut out all direct ab work for a while. Seems to have worked.
>>76671819If all you’re going for is aesthetics barbell bench is a pretty dog shit tier lift.
>>76671765Avoid?
>>76672309The truth nuke that /fit/copers aren't ready for.
>>76672403Its been getting mentioned here for a while now. If you have bad leverages for it you're not growing your pecs with it. I can bench 80kg/ 175 for reps and I still dont have any noticeable pecs. Yet, I squat 100kg/2pl8 and my quads are already starting to get bigger because squats hammer my quads. Isolations are king for actually making shit grow.
Just do calisthenics only.You will look like a weak bitch but that's what you asked for.
>>76672410Yup. 107.5kg bench (front delt always failing before chest), but for me also 147.5kg squat (lower back and glutes always failing before quads).Meanwhile chest flys and leg press/extensions actually lets my chest and quads get close to failure and grow.
>>76672309>>76672403t. benchlets.
>>76672462Post body.
>>76672410>>76672449You niggas have beginner benches and you wonder why you have no pecs. This board has hit rock bottom.
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>>76672478Beginner bench is 1pl8. 1pl8 and above is intermediate bench for non powerlifters. My delts fucking exploded in size from OHP before I even sniffed a pl8 doing it because they're a great lift for front and to a lesser extent side delts. Flat Bench has proven time and time again to just suck for hypertrophy. If you have to lift literal 1% tier lifts (which 3pl8 is) to get gains, its a bad exercise. wvx2x
>>76672498I know a guy who benches 200lbs without even lifting. 1pl8 is a fucking joke. I hit 3plate when I was 19 and I had no idea what I was doing. 3plate is achievable within 2 years if you're not a complete fucking retard.
>>76672504Let me guess, you bench 5pl8 now at 6'5 240lbs, just hit 30 but look 17, have 8 figures in your bank account and have an 18 yo gf
>>76672504That's great, I don't care. We're talking about average people. I'm average. And for the average dude who has shit levers, its not good for hypertrophy and it's a grind to bring your numbers up to get to somewhere that bench would work out in the long term. Pec flies and pec deck are the smartest way to get bigger pecs because I CAN TARGET MY PECS DIRECTLY AND I CANT DO THAT ON BENCH WITHOUT TREX ARMS OR A RETARDEDLY WIDE POWERSHITTER GRIP.
>>76671765Looks kino
>>76671765i wish i had that. fuck the greyhound look. I want to look like i pillage villages.
>>76672515No, I'm poor, 5'11 and I look 40, but I bench 420lbs, thanks.>>76672520>muh leversLmao. You're not gonna make it.
Another thread proving that current year /fit/ is utterly bitchmade and non lifting>how can I avoid looking strong and powerfulDon't worry none of you faggots ever will
>>76672540Literally gonna make it because I'm doing pec flies
>>76671765why would you want to avoid the "blocky" look ? he looks strong af in a relaxed state under normal lighting, that's what counts. on the contrary, the super shredded v-tapers you see on social media only look like it because they carefully take photos mid-workouts while super lean with a huge pump and under spot lighting. if that is what you're after then just get super lean, but then you'll look small in normal clothes and without your precious pump.>>76671774our boy basement is as natty as it gets
>ITT: people that cannot fucking read
>>76671765Thats heavy legs, doing abs all the time(both bad for cns freshness, heavy shit stimulates frame gains) and prowler/wrestling esque training.Using steroids halts frame gains earlier, thats why powerlifters look so fuckin wide doing like 1-3rms all the time and being at a cnstant surplus ofc. If you try to make lean gains youll never have half the physique of if you were lifting for asap strength.
>>76671765He miiiiight be natty betting not
>>76672656>why would you want to avoid the "blocky" look ? he looks strong af in a relaxed state under normal lighting, that's what counts. on the contrary, the super shredded v-tapers you see on social media only look like it because they carefully take photos mid-workouts while super lean with a huge pump and under spot lighting. if that is what you're after then just get super lean, but then you'll look small in normal clothes and without your precious pump.I want to be a twink
>>76671765Now let's see the person behind this post. You must have a truly exceptional physique to critique someone as big as that.
>>76671765Do you seriously think this a physique you need to “avoid”? As in, you might just accidentally end up looking like this guy? It ain’t that easy pal!
>>76672786Honestly if people just ate and were more scared of being skinny than fat its like im talking to a room full of trannies trying to get them to put on muscle and all they want is to get buttfucked by a large man until ahit comes spewing out of their ass and all over the bed then call me names.
>>76671765he isn't blocky, he's just high(er) bodyfat. Genetics dictate your blockiness. He has visibly much wider shoulders than his hips
>>76672792No youre arguing with israeli agents sent to the internet to use steroids and give bad advice so that their gay ass kids have a chance in the dating market to get a goy girl.
>>76672799Hes also lat flexing and looks thin from the side get a mirror
>>76672487>t. totally natty by the way
>>76672808What's unnatty about that pic, exactly? Delts and traps are there, but not popping out like crazy.
>>76671765it's mostly genetics, depending on your torso/limbs proportions
>>76672811Its not impossible its just that nobody smart enough to get there natty is dumb enough to get that lean, id bet my last dillar he and op arent natty for a no benefit parlay.
>>76672812>proportionsTypically super long arms means you just didnt lift enough or correctly to get wide, short arms often means you were lifting heavy at 13yo onwards as being higher test hardens bones. Look at basketball players, theyre built like a stick because theyve been weight ratio maxxing since birth so their parents can retire when they go pro.
>>76672808If you want to look like a teenager with inflated muscles by all means use steroids to shorten the frame growth period of pre 4pl8 bench for reps and lower your genetic max.
>>76672799What we have here is a genetic freak who definitely isnt on steroids and has no progress pics over the years. Someone who you should mimic the training of definitely, if you have the genetics for it that is.
>>76672830Internet fitness fag who is freakishly big and not Alphadestiny? Obvious roid tranny
>>76671765this is unironically exactly what women want
>>76672498>>76672504>tfw couldn't even bench the bar when I started ;_;
>>76671765I guarantee you are nowhere near big enough to be worried about that.
>>76672478Have patience they're indian
can anyone translate what this faggot is even trying to say? I don't know what "blocky" means
>>76671765get different parents
>>76671765He looks "blocky" because1.) He doesn't train abs (only recently started and admitted he doesn't like training them)2.) Is almost always in a bulked state and enjoys bulking past 20% bfIf he shredded down to 12% you'd see the same v-taper, his lats are huge
>>76673031That's his wife?
>>76671765Zane is right.
>>76672656>why would you want to avoid the "blocky" look ? Because it looks bad.>he looks strong af in a relaxed state under normal lighting, that's what counts.He looks fat af in normal lighting.
>>76672827What a retarded schizo cope. This board is really going to the dogs.High intensity lifting with lots of compounds will make you look fat/blocky.High volume lifting with lots of isolations will make you look aesthetic.Simple as. That's why Golden Age bodybuilders looked so much better.
Women always show pictures of blocky dudes when talking about muscular bodies that they like.
>>76673711I have never met a woman who liked muscular bodies in my life, and I'm much older than you, so I wonder where that buillshit is coming from.I legit met more women who like fat guys than women who like muscular guys.
>>76672781I don't understand this cope
>>76672771>doing abs all the time>>76673357>He doesn't train abs
hahaha gross hahahaah wouldn't you HATE to look like that HAHAHAHAHA
>>76673897if you want that go for that look nobody is stopping you, it's just not my thing
>>76672410you're a DYEL twink. stop giving advice and kill yourself
>>76672498no you're a weak faggot and in no position to be giving anyone advice. curse vishnu now
>>76673872cope with what? op is the one coping. he's probably a skinnyfat indian.
>>76672515i hit 315 when I was 18 while following a "powerbuilding" style program. its possible. fags like you are just mad jelly
>>76672786yeah OP sounds like a woman who says she doesn't lift weights because she doesnt want to look like one of those "freaky bodybuilders"
>>76674143>>76674134lmao you faggots are so delusional, I'm sorry you're so butthurt that I don't want to look like your favorite youtube idol>b-but you don't look like thatdoesn't matter, the topic of the discussion is wether certain training methods produce a chunkier physique or if it's all genetics>B-BUT YOU WILL NEVER LOOK LIKE MY CLOSETED HOMOSEXUAL FANTASY WAAAAAAAAA YOU'RE COPINGat no point in this thread I've ever said in this thread that I think BB physique is easy to obtain or that I even have the genetic potential to reach it, it was simply to give an example. I do not care that you find that look appealing, that's not what I asked More so, since developing a half decent physique takes years, one would want to think beforehand on their training methods. Btw this is what BB always says when he begs bodybuilders to not train like powerliftersIt's like if someone asked >"I want to become a sprinter, how should I train? I dont want to become a marathon runner"and you faggots put up a redditor smug face and go>"heh, do you think becoming a marathon runner is easy?"
>>76672540>No, I'm poor, 5'11 and I look 40, but I bench 420lbs, thanks.how much do you weigh? I’m 160 and bench 225lbs x 6 reps only
>>76674173a good marathon runner will be a decent sprinter and a good sprinter will be a decent marathon runner. they're both just running at different speeds. a beginner should just fucking run and find out what they like before deciding to dedicate themselves fully to one discipline. it's a similar concept for lifting. basement bodybuilding is a 4 month cut away from having a good v taper like the famous bodybuilders you jerk off to. he's also a 4 month peaking phase away from having good powerlifting numbers. why? because he just lifts weights and isn't neurotic about which tribe he belongs to. it's a useless question to ask. waist and hip size once cut down is genetic. frank zane didn't have some secret sauce for a narrow waist, he was born with it. he mogs you btw. the only reason you post this crap is because you won't have any forum account tied to it. post body.
>>76674203>a good marathon runner will be a decent sprinter and a good sprinter will be a decent marathon runnerI won't read the rest, you're just acting in bad faith at this point
>>76671765This is a roid shoulder vs a flexed natty shoulder. Avoid the prior by not injecting testosterone.
>>76671765Guy in your pic just needs to cut and do a vacuum.
>>76674561>guy who has videos of himself properly training the lateral head v. dyel who based on his physique does not properly train the lateral head3d delts are not a sign of roiding. 3d delts generally are a sign of properly trained delts. The trait in roiders that indicates they are roiding is because roiders have a greatly overdeveloped rear delt. Guy on right likely is an ectomorph based on his clavicle length and hence may not even grow his delts even if he trained them properly. Left is a mesomorph and hence will be prone to developing more musculature with training.
>>76674561I have shoulders like him natty lol I also have massive traps natty. But a weak chest because nobody gets all the good genes.
>>76674132I curse vishnu and denounce the talmud. I'm still right btw. Sometimes bench just sucks ass for people. I will probably hit 100kg OHP well before I hit 3pl8 bench.
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>>76672498If 1pl8 and above is intermediate, 3pl8 is nowhere near 1%. I will refrain from calling you a faggot and advising you to kys because you have posted cute kot, but you are getting high off that copium real hard
>>76671765>Is there a way to prevent this sort of "blocky" look with training, or is it all genetics? I saw a video of Frank Zane claiming that lifting hard will give you this look instead of creating the taperThat's right. Lift medium for a sleek look, only lift hard if you want a blocky look.
>>76672410>Isolations are king for actually making shit grow.Yup. My ass exploded thanks to doing BSS
>>76672540>but I bench 420lbs, thanks.Kek based
>>76675934why are you trying to associate a neanderthal vampire with hyperborea?
>>76674173Dude you’re using 4chan quit thinking you’ll get actual discourse here
>>766760953pl8 is absolutely advanced and I'm going off general gymgoers who aren't actually competing in powerlifting. A 3pl8 bench in a commercial gym is incredibly, incredibly rare. >>76676107It's funny
>>76673691that's the most retarded thing ive ever read
>>76671765You won't achieve any look. Stupid whore
>>76674561sorry you're just dyel
>>76671765Why avoid it? This is peak
>>76672403>>76672410Post chest
>>76672498>1pl8 and above is intermediate bench for non powerliftersLol
>>76671765i'm starting to get the v-taper and i don't even lift. just work 14 hours a day six days a week.
>>76676411shut the fuck up
>>76676929you sound mad
>>76671765Just a matter of exercise selection. Work like a beast of burden and you will look like one.
>>76672656>our boy>as natty as it getslol as well as lmao
>>76673730Are you 12? Never trust what a woman says. They say what gives them the most social points, unless they're fat and insecure too only then do they like fat guys.
>>76671765Bro is not "blocky" at all. He looks a little smooth, but not fat. Its just fat. If he dieted down reasonably smart and lost just ten pounds of fat in 60 he would look considerably less "blocky." Do you even understand what the human body is?
>>76673730LOL They are lying to you. The "fat guy" is paying them, either flat out paying or is their husband/boyfriend (which means he funds their lifestyle, and women are famous for being able to fuck whoever is paying - it is the entire basis of prosecution. NOBODY except literal perverts (feeders and shit) think fat bodies look better than lean bodies. The exact same body (muscularity, height, body hair, color) will look better to EVERYBODY (except the aforementioned perverts) as the body loses fat down from 40% to 20%. Under 20% there is some variety of opinion about what degree of leanness looks best. But under twenty, nobody is fat or sloppy or has rolls. Ive been sloppy fat, thin and jacked. Women sexually assault me when I am jacked. Are pleasant when Im thin and ignore me when i am sloppy fat. Dont tell me what women prefer.
>>76677016I'm mad at how many people here have a single digit IQ yes
>>76671765It's all about knowing how to lift heavy and recover afterwards. Too much lifts and bad recovery leads to "gym gut" and makes that blocky shape over time. Here's my method for getting out of this habit:When I am alone after a workout, I will get naked and lie on my bed. I'll then lift my legs up and do a reverse frog pose so I'm rocking onto my back. Once in this position I will gengtly ladle my balls over my dick so as to expose the hairy-yet-ungenital'd region between the testicles and butthole. Using my other hand, I will then rhythmically slap my middle and ring finger against said region making a very distinct quick whapping sounds. This is done in a manner that causes no pain, and I will stress that this does not envoke any sexual arousal on my end whatsoever. Instead this forces a state of calm and focus, while also stretching the spine. Occasionally I will stray the slaps closer to the butthole with the finger slaps, as well as toward the fore with slaps localized to the rear base of my balls. Again, this causes no pain, and is no sexual. During this period I may sometimes sniff the fingers as a breathing endurance exercise, but I much prefer just making the little slaps. I don't know when I started this, but I greatly enjoy the experience and my recovery has improved tenfold. I would compare it to yoga, combined with sniffing and drumming the region in between your balls and butthole. It is a good sensory experience, a good immediate recovery stimulus, and I wholly reccommend doing it in the private comfort of your own home, or maybe a camping tent if you like camping. Sometimes I play music for this, but it depends on the mood: typically it's jazz, but I have opted for limp bizkit and metal when I am needing a more vigorous session. The tempo music does often influence my speed so I need to be careful, since I have bruised the area by accident before. All in all, I don't know if anyone else does this, but I greatly enjoy it and its results.
>>76678524You're that bald rapey looking guy with a shit beard who thinks all problems in society would be solved if men sniffe more dicks and balls, arent you?
>>76671765don't get above 12% bf
>>76671765This is what I want to look like
>>76678542Lol no I'm pretty clean cut. Just figured I'd share some sage advice since it's been a huge help in my fitness journey.
>>76672478Lmao 2pl8 for hypertrophy reps is advanced and usually requires roiding
>>76671765To be fair I was born blockyShoulder and back workouts helped hide it tho
>>76676929I refuse ;^)
>>76677935>Cope
>>76677683>Never trust what a woman says.>Instead, trust incelsYou do yours lmao
>>76678542Yeah, it is me.
>>76671765Don't have narrow shoulders
>>76673730Women like tall and skinny and tall and fat guys, not so much muscular unless they're tall too
>>76672309Meh insertions dont progress without heavy weights. It looks like all you do is isolations and it doesnt flow aesthetically just repping out and prison reps only.
>>76672410Sounds like genetic predispositions. I can only bench 60kg for 20 and chest and biceps are the only things I get compliments on Whilst bench being my only chest exercise.
