What are the dead give away that someone is a juicer ?
>>76674855They show signs of lurking more before posting stupid shit.
>>76674855If they're bigger than you.
acne, like a unnatural amount
DeltaTrapsOverly red skinIf gay
>>76674932>deltaRear delts are the give-away for most. 3d delts themselves do not give it away unless they are absurdly large delts. Properly trained delts will be 3d. They should just have certain proportions and roiders deviate from these proportions. >TrapsUsually underveloped in natties because they're not using enough weight for shrugs and often don't do rack pulls or other heavy motions for traps. Gotta go heavy to grow traps.>>76674922>a unnaturalAn unnatural.
>>76674855>has a "fitness" youtube channel>makes money out of it
>>76674855If they look like they lift and like they have a pump at all times they're probably on roids. Also, red skin in the upper chest area.
>>76674855check name : -jeff (100% roid)-mike (100% roid)all i got sir, good luck
>>76674922Does having acne imply higher androgen levels if you're natty?
>>76674855they look like a faggotnot clothes or grooming, body shape; weird and gross. Bad.Smells badinsecurecant handle jokesirritable
>>76674855Posting on social media
>>76674855Shoulders, traps and neck. Add to that a permanent pump - water retention and more red blood cells. Acne, aggression, etc.BUT it depends on the person - some people do roids and just end up outstanding looking when others literally mutate into train wrecks.It also strongly depends on gear quality - only the best will do.
>>76675137not necessarily, no
>>76674855they're gay
They look better than you
shit lifts but still jacked is the 100% dead give awayno natural gets jacked with shit lifts
>>76675234Apart from manlets
Roidtranny hereDEAD GIVEAWAY:>Insane fluctuations in bloat and water retention, if you see a guy look normal one day and then his jawline disappears the next he's probably just started a cycle. You can also guarantee he's retarded because water retention is almost always caused by poor e2 managementVery likely:>High amounts of acne. I had a lot of acne even when I was natural. Ironically, mine only got better when I hopped on and started taking accutane so as to not become a giant walking back pimple >3D delts especially rear delts>Huge traps>Disproportionately large upper chestAny one of the above three could honestly be genetics too. But all 3 yeah they're probably juicedMaybe:>Excessively lean year-round while getting bigger. Few can do this while on gear, even fewer can do it naturally>Skin quality, hair loss, etc sides. Mainly dht or dht derivative side effects but can occur naturally too. Very compound specific. Dht derivatives will age you much more than nandrolone which arguably can improve skin quality (and is more hair safe than testosterone)Ultimately if someone looks big and shredded chances are they're on gear. The amount of people who are still dyel or otherwise look like shit is crazy too. You'd never guess the average roider was on roids, some you wouldn't even think work out at all. The people who have come up to me asking about steroids and talking about their cycle while genuinely looking like they don't even workout is staggering.
Muscular face. You know the one. Problem with steroids is - muscles grow just as well even if you don't train them. Hence the face.
disproportionally big delts and sub 12% bodyfat with muscles that are clearly "full" of glycogen and water
>>76675481Thats like the number 1 reason to roid lol it literally makes you more handsome as long as you don't get too big or dose too high to where water retention makes your face look bad.
>>76675491Didn't say it's bad. It's very attractive if not over-board (at that point the whole body is lol). It's a dead giveaway though.
>>76674855Veins in the biceps Baseball size delts
>>76675257interesting
If they are making money off their physique
>>76674855if the body is too good to be true, then it is. but there are harder ones out there like being masked by excess fat or being somewhat small despite having low bf and great separations.
>>76675257>roids help with acne >roids grow the things that (supposedly) can't be grown naturally>everybody's on roids all bullshit bot, yawn
>>76675507>>76675491>>76675481bwahahha,"MUSCLE" face, more llike moon face lol :D >>76677429
they're bigger than me
>>76674965>Rear delts are the give-away for most.I train my rear delts and they're pretty big, natty btw.>Traps>Usually underveloped in nattiesI didn't intentionally target them and noticed they got pretty big too. Lots of ohp and some deadlift probably help.I might be an outlier. How I can tell roiders is big, more muscle than fat, biceps look inflated with water, big veins. It's super obvious if they also have overpronounced nasolabial folds with puffy lower cheeks and lips, like what happens to female bodybuilders.
>>76674855If it looks unnatural, it is unnatural, never fails. There is some cases where someone can roid and it won't show anywhere but those are a handful of complete retards.
>>76674965>Rear delts are the give-away for mostdo face pulls and bent over lat raises you faggot
I've known 3 roiders who didn't even lift except for some biceps curls at home.
>>76675160I have over developed traps, broad shoulders, and I'm losing my neck. No juice. Just been doing bjj for close to 8 years. And genetics. When I was lifting, I did get a lot of training partners asking me if I was on roids. They call me monkey grips bc my grip strengh/forearms...which is funny bc I was made fun of in elementary school- they called me monkey boy then bc I have unnaturally long arms, and I'm a mutt with monkey lips.
Don't worry, they'll tell youJust like vegans
>>76675074>If they look like they liftThis. Basically everyone who 'looks like he lifts' is on roids. Natties who lift look more like athletes or something
>>76677591Show us your bulging rear delts>>76677680Why did they roid? What did they look like?
>>76675922>Veins in the bicepsMe>Baseball size deltsNot me
>>76678585>Natties who lift look more like athletesAthletes are all juicing
DBZ arms
Always using hoodies and sweatpants in the gym even in the summer
>>76674855Big cartoon syringes labelled "roids" sticking out of their ass
>>76674855An average African fisherman in the Congo is more jacked than this guy
>>76674855If they are both bigger than me and more cut than at the same time than me pecifically
>>76679158More shredded maybe but not bigger, Subsaharans tend to have thin dark skin and good insertions so starving villagers look 'shredded' but not carrying much actual mass