Mike (on his prime obviously) or Gordon?MMA rules or street fight, doesn't matter. As long as all martial arts are allowed
Who's Gordon
Mike tyson and most boxers at heavier classes pre 2000's were frauds. Almost all matches were fixed. Same for early MMA. Same for early gangster rap. Mike tyson and 2pac were two groomed plants to prop up brutish niggaz and make them accepted in the collective consciousness.
Tyson because he's more expliosive. Danager won't let Ryan do MMA because his slow, calculated style wouldn't work in an actual fight, it's made for grappling competitions.t. thinks Tyson is generally overrated
>>76677450>Mike tyson and most boxers at heavier classes pre 2000's were frauds.Thank God people invenetd actual fighting in the 00s then.Lol, you must be American.
>>76677450Also note how Don King the blackass jew parting ways with mike tyson was the start of his downfall. He started taking actual non-rigged fights with skilled guys and got absolutely destroyed and barely scrapped UD. It's not even about age or regressing, heavyweights have very long primes usually.
>>76677443Gordon ain't no Alexander
>>76677445the best jiu jitsu grappler ever>>76677450k schizo>>76677450
>>76677443Gordon easy, not even close actually. Once in the floor tyson is never getting up, in fact he is out or limbs broken in less than a minute. Fights and scrambles go to the ground 9 out of 10 times, Tyson has literally 0 ground game and never cared about mma. A shoot for a single or double leg and it's over.People don't get knocked out cold that easy to the point they can't get up at all, Tyson could never defend a takedown without kicks or knees to the face or specially wrestling spraws. 1 vs 1 BJJ vs Boxing BJJ always win.Boxing is king against multiple people tho, while bjj can't do anything.
>>76677472Wasn't that after he got out of prison and lost his trainer though
>>76677443Gordon, a grappler will almost always defeat a striker
>>76677443Mike would have been difficult to take down, but Gordon would absolutely not stand with himHe would roll and shrimp and look to tangle up a legIt would be a shitty, ugly and boring "fight", basically Ali vs Inoki
>>76677443Street fight I give it 7-3 in favour of mike Concrete is a grapplers worst enemy and Gordon has no clue about strikingMma in a cage I give it 7-3 in favour of Gordon, his grappling will be more favourable on a padded surface
>>76677498Watch KOTS most of them are trained and no one wants to go to the ground. It's not good on a hard surface for either of you. Put in bites and gouges and 99% of le ebin chokes and locks go out the window
>>76677443Tyson wins this easy, because Gordon has aids and would have to drop out.
>>76677443gordon ryan neg diff
>>76678046you know what's worse than shooting a takedown on concrete n*gga? getting taken down on concrete
>>76677443Mike will win, he'll be too fast and hit too hard for Gordon
>MMA rules definitely Gordon>street fight50/50
>>76677443The easy option is to say Tyson for speed and strength but a stupid ankle pick could destroy him in seconds. For example I know Khamzat would smoke Tyson in a street fight or MMA because of his aggressive wrestling
>>76677461It’s mma rules retard>>76677443Gordon cuz mma has shown us grappling >>>>>> striking, even if it’s boring for the viewer
>>76678057you don't know who gordon is if you're using kots as an argument
>>76677443Logan Paul beats mike tyson under mma rules
>>76677443Tyson. He was athletic and on roids. Ryan is just on roids. Give mike 6 months of kicking legs and hugging other men and its over in mma rule set
>>76678093This. Every time someone get slammed on concrete in a street fight they seem to get brain damage immediately with arms flatted out and all
>>76678986He does hug men, it's called clinch when they try to bail out in a pinch. Clinch wouldn't help him much vs Gordon lol
>>76677498>>76677443>>76677498>>76677661A pro boxers footwork is too good for someone who does BJJ to reliably land a takedown, if I remember correctly its the grappling sport which puts the least emphasis on them. A Wrestler or Judoka would be a different story. Realistically Mike decapitates him within 15 seconds 8/10 times. Watch Mikes fights in his prime during the late 80s or whatever, the opponents can barely throw a punch back nevermind grab him to do some faggy takedown. Ryan would just get hit with combos that have more power behind them than anything he's ever experienced by far.
>>76677443Whoever lands first, if mike lands any shot first he wins, if Gordon gets the takedown or bodylock, he immediately takes mike down and submit him.I would say mike is more likely to land first.
>>76677443i think it will go like this https://youtu.be/yuSWtjzclDY?t=28unless mike knocks him out early hes not avoiding the take down and hes not escaping
>>76677498What an embarrassing post.
>>76679336>faggy takedownNon biased opinion at all
>>76679347The punch has to knockout tho, otherwise Gordon will just lay there until he recovers or grabs mikes legs. Mike can't engage him on the floor
>>76677443This has been answeredhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_1https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_2Without ground game against a proficient grapplers things get really bad really fast.Keep in mind Royce wasn't even the strongest or most technical Gracie at the time because they wanted to make a statement. Had they put Rickson (which was way better than Royce) which was also physically more fit, the impact of winning without punching or kicking wouldn't be the same as people would just claim brute strength or something.And Gordon is both stronger and more technically advanced than both of those Gracies.
>>76677443Everyone knows how muke fights maybe give him 6mo to learn your dumb ass style hoping to avoid boxing him.
>>76677443Thats not fair gordon gets to roid way more than mikey mike and thats something since the wbc hasnt had a natty champ since the inception of steroids.
>>76678046Yeah what if his kickboxing is elite and he doesnt even really box? Jon jones is basically the smoothest and most refined kickboxer in mma history so i could see gordon having practiced muay thai and karate basically at all and winning with ease.
>>76677443you guys are all forgetting that Mike literally has a wrestling background in addition to boxing. he wins easy 9/10 times unless Gordon gets lucky. how could you forget Mike fought at WrestleMania.
>>76678093>>76679009In KOTS someone got suplexed like 5 times on concrete and just kept getting upClinching up in the open is hard to do with a good striker, especially without pillow gloves to protect you>>76679900We are talking pure boxing Vs pure bjj in a street fightIf we start adding or assuming disciplines it's a pointless argument Of course if Gordon gets a clean takedown it's over, but again concrete changes the whole game completely
>>76678963I know who Gordon isMost KOTS fighters are trained in MMA or bjj. It's a last resort usually. Have you tried rolling around on the concrete floor
>>76680220Mikes way fast enough to get 2 ko punches while gordon is closing the distance. I think gordons only hope is kickboxing hes kinda standing like a kickboxer in this photo and i could see him straight up outclassing mike at it which is usually an easy win.
>>76680220Assuming they are maining their respective expertise id say mike vs mcneely shows his inability to defend against grappling if he wasnt going for non 1st round ko. But his boxing style is honestly the best for vs grappling and put of anyone to want to close the distance against its not mike you want to get out of boxing range asap vs prime mike and nobody grapples he same vs someone so elite at striking especially assuming both have like 1wk prep, you cant say gordon doesnt know how mike fights its kind of unfair.
>>76677472No, the start of his downfall was him barely showing up at the gym and fucking whores on coke and being fucked up on psych meds
>>76679336Most of his opponents were cherry picked who’s>muh footworkLMAOOOOO
>>76680312He was also on roids so basically they gotta not be so bizg its obvious anyways. Its weird you can get way bigger and stronger than pro fighters natty because theyre all fake natties but nobody wants to face prime mike juiced like mr olympia then hed start eating and fucking his opponents he was already half way there.
>>76680240>He's kinda standing like a kickboxer in this photo Take your meds>>76680259It could go either way. Pudzianowski KOd a world class BJJ fighter in under 10 secondsIt happens. On mats it's a different game because the soft ground is forgiving and facilitates crazy moves. Let Tyson socker kick, bite and punch to the back of the head and again it's a different gamePure MMA rules in a nice soft cage then yeah, Gordon has the upper hand
>>76680506I doubt hes so autistic hes the bjj guy of bjj guys and isnt also elite at wrestling mt kb boxing judo probably in that order. But yeah assuming 1wk of prep for mike i see him just being too much ro handle standing unless gordon is more modern in his kb/mt, i could easily see that being a huge hole in mikes style. But imo i bet mike just has the footwork and power to outclass him at boxing by a landslide so much that he just freaks gordon out and he cant focus like basically any contemporary opponent. I bet prime mike would shitstomp basicall all wbc and ufc champs given prep since hes a much better athlete and martial artist. Nobody is crazy enough to teach mike proper mt or god forbid i say kickboxing is even slightly viable online or else the bjj retards are gonna not fight me irl and do their spinning roundhouses and a kick that doesnt work into a planted 1-2. Anyways yeah mike is just way too fast for this dude itd look even dumber than his however long win streak before he started throwing or stopped roids and went into a drug induced psychosis.
>>76680522Whats your MMA/boxing recordStop talking. Are you that idiot who says he's bulking first to become heavy weight mma champion or something. Shut up poser
>>76677443if they fought 10 times gordon wins 10 times
>>76680568Oh shit you mught oddly enough actuall beat me in a fight maybe i will shut up. I forgot words work in a fight im outta here.
>>76680568But seriously I hit way harder than most people id annihilate 99% of people in one punch youre high
>>76680502This kind of low IQ run on sentence type of posting is not pleasant
>>76679805I have a slight bias towards real combat sports like boxing yes. Brazilian blowjob or whatever is still okay just people who focus on it entirely aren't actual fighters.
>>76680336>>muh footworkYes. Have you ever sparred or drilled with high level boxers? You cannot get near them.BJJ isn't wrestling. They literally lie down and wait for the other person to get on top of them lol their takedown game is weak. Mike had borderline superhuman reflexes for his size and could quite easily avoid the bloatshart Gordon
>>76679878>"this has been answered"bro there a million insiders who said it was basically a gracie ad and you still sucking that gracie dickwhy didnt we see all the BJJ guys in Pride?oh shit, right, because they got stomped out of the fucking ringwant to know the big difference here?its not about styles.its about mike being someone who actually fights people, while Ryan is a nerd that wrestles.one person is trained to handle the stress and adrenaline rush of a fight, the other one is trained to be in a low-risk situation kneeling on the ground with the other guy where your only risk is spraining something.and if you dont consider that difference important, you havent fought a day in your life.source: trained karate, kickboxing and later on MMA for over 20 years with professional matches, grew up on the wrong side of balkans fighting on the street.
>>76679810>The punch has to knockout tho,>Implying Gordon can survive getting hit once by prime tysonWhoever lands first wins nigga.
>>76680942Hey, so what's the best hand to hand approach for actual urban warfare fights? Because those are coming to the west and not everyone has a gun rn.In my xp, it's all mental, funnily enough. Doing MMA or TMA never made any difference in actual violence performance for me. Drills were just as good as sparring.
>>76678057>Put in bites and gouges and 99% of le ebin chokes and locks go out the windowKinda funny everyone claimed gougin doesn't work until one guy started doing it in KOTS, won easily with it and suddenly, everyone was doing it. I think it's banned now, right?
>>76680610Yeah what's your record then Fat Poser
>>76681501Sparring is overrated you need to have a real fight and KO someone otherwise what are you training forIf you can't KO someone it's pointless
Allow me to ramble>Light turns on>Both are in a cement room with chain link fences bolted on the walls>No weapons, friends, police>Instant teleportation of both in prime fight shape>Mike opens his third eye and basic knowledge of who that man across the room is descends onto him>Gordon rushes to take clothes off before even knowing it's a fight>Lays on ground like a baby and waits for attack, kabuto wiggling to warm up>Mike HAS TO attack and can't walk away>We basically placed them in a SAW puzzle and the marionette midget is telling them to kill or die>Tyson calmly takes he's suit off and does arm circles>He is now ready and in better shape than you>Punches the wall>He knows he can spontaneously grow gloves on impact to avoid broken fists>Allah told him>Approaches Gordon to kick, stomp, mount or punch>Maybe throw his jacket on Gordon's face before trying to jump stomp him or something>Gets grabbed>It's overOr>Be Gordon>Fucking Iron Mike wants to kill me>Shit myself >Poop disappears, can't even throw it at him>Lay>He won't approach my baby guard>*Butt scoot*>Mike walks around him>"He's fast!">Stand>Emote>Spam imanari roll and kani basami until Tyson is grounded and possibly injured if you scissor him "wrong">Win, eventually Tyson can't box on the ground and lacks basic grappling knowledge. A boxer is as good as a breakdancer in a fight if he can't stand. A big freaky explosive dancer itc.Not a bjj fan but I have judo-ed boxers into nothing in MMA. Just hide your head right when grounded.
>>76681946Tyson can't really keep the bjj fag standing, but there are ways to make HIM un-stand without risking a proper punch. If he lands a punch to G's hip or something and he can't catch him, he'll roll and wiggle until getting a leg continuing the briefly interrupted roll."But he can just dance around him to tire him"But he can just lay there menacingly. But they can make peace and fuck. But they can die of asphyxia or dehydration. Fuck off.Odds of Gordon being a retard and getting knocked out from a soccer kick/stomp? Always possible. I could also choke him up if he fucks up. So what?Getting punched out while trying to submit? The real risk. Enters in the idea of being retarded.But I'm pretty sure Gordon must have some other martial arts knowledge. Not looking it up though. He surely does his martial art properly at least (practiced twisting your nuts, breaking fingers, gauging, maybe even not just getting punched in the nape) and grapples with gi too. So maybe not just a sportsman.Only thing going for Mike to fix the unfavourable mismatch in styles when it comes to "skills" is he clearly is a bit fucked up and will bite chunks off you first thing. He ain't out boxing shit. Mike would win irl because he has armed black people around him who usually shoot you when you try to arm-bar them.Give him a couple years to train for it and wins 8 of 10
Gordon easy. He is also way bigger than Tyson. All the other opinions here are simply cuz its mainstream to suck off Tyson and hate Gordon. And I dont even watch the gay hugging much
Tyson literaly lose to some yotuber
>>76681972I'm glad you stopped moving that mirror all the time bro
>>76681900Could be 1-0
>>76677443Grapplers, particularly BJJ nerds, are failures that couldn’t do a real sport so they opt for this hobbyist bullshit no one cares about. Sport BJJ doesn’t pay well, it’s overly priced due to meme marketing, is centered around a fake humble cuck culture, and has a fraud belt system people buy into because they have no desire or will to work towards actual achievements. They are the last kid in dodgeball seething to this day about not even being worthy of warning up the bench in JV, the kind of vindictive bitch boy that wants to enact revenge fantasies in their gay little pajama party on a dirty ass mat like they would to their gay stepfather. It attracts the same kind of dorks that science cringe lifters does, snarky faggots that want to feel tough or smart without doing anything of note. It is easily the gayest “hobby” of physical combat sports, and any BJJ fag pretending it has a lot of utility in real life are LARPERS who idolize some memeshit that favelafags ripped from chinks who got mogged by Judotards.
>>76683262In your fantasy? Yeah fantasy poser boyGo fight then you'll stop fantasizing about bullshit
>>76683555I definitely have an instinctual annoyed reaction whenever some guy starts talking about how he does BJJ
tyson knocks gordon tf out 9 times out of 10.the 1 time out of 10 is where gordon somehow takes mike to the ground without getting his skull turned into a maraca.
>>76680809Shows how much you know. Any bjj gym worth their salt will teach you basic takedowns, which means mike is fucked against a high level grappler.
