Beginners start herehttps://old.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/indexhttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZSroYNpeYJ4y0he5ihuJzf4gDDPnSWCV
Ok but tell me where to get the goodies
>>76679496Search known bodybuilding forums to determine good sources.
>>76679501bb dot coom is kill. this place is kill, reddit is kill. I wish i hopped when info was less censored
>>766794964chan will ban users for 30 days for discussing sourcesit is very easy to go find them man
>>76679509>this is kill, that is killI dont speak retarded zoomerbabble. Is this supposed to mean its good or bad?also fuck off
>>76679509the way you and other fags use the term "hop on" has given me my first instance of roid rage. God I hate you
>>76679640just wait until they start calling testosterone "testo".
Who has run both bold cyp and bold und? I've run regular eq bold und and got good results. I wonder what the shorter ester would be like. I heard the pip is a fucking bitch though. Undecanote pinned fine for me though. If you've done both before, any reason to choose Cyp?
>>76679492thanks for the info anon.I'll get on gear next year
>>76679745yeah the pip can be bad just mix it with your testo or whatever and its not too bad.Theoretically the AI effect of bold and the aromatization of testo should be about the same rate because since the half lives are the same giving you more stable E2 levels.
You guys ever fuck around with M-tren? I got a free vial so might as well run it. The strength gains are solid and immediate but I feel like the diminished cardio almost cancels it out. I look a little more full but I'm too high bf% to see all the effects. I'm a little less hungry and my sleep is suffering but not too bad. Been taking 0.5 mg pre workout for a week and a half now. I'm enjoying the mental sides a lot. My dick is constantly rock hard and I want to fuck 4 times a day.
Does anyone know if the brand in OPs pic is good?
My natural test is 778. I've seen dudes poat their "cycle" bloodwork and only have 1500-2000 ng/dL test. Is it eben worth a 2x boost? I need to get as muscular as possible by next spring.
>>76679939They're just taking bitch doses despite decades of advice not too. Its the in thing to do because its trending on tiktok
>>76679957>advice not too.Why not?
How long should I expect to feel like shit post PCT after a cycle of test? Is it really going to be months and months of low libido and feeling like shit?
>>76679959Because they're taking bitch doses that only give them 1500-2000 test level.Did you even read your own post?
>>76679959Don’t listen to 2 gram Timmy. Keeping doses low is smart. Doubling your test is not insignificant and your level on gear is way more stable than nattt levels thag oscillate. To the point where even most TRT doses are effectively superphysiological It sounds like you are trying to get big for just some event or something and it’s probably retarded to do a cycle just for that though desu
>>76679973>>76679972I'm another guyMy goals are honestly to be as massive as possible, but I always imagined that high doses in the first cycle would fuck me up
>>76679977Experienced roiders have been saying for decades that the basic beginner cycle is 500mg test but every natty who comes along has to reinvent the wheel.Waste your time and health taking a slightly more than trt dose just look like slightly bigger natty.Have fun.
>>76679977I don’t disagree with him that you should do 500 test for your first cycle it’s a good way to go
>>76680008>>76679986Shouldn't I go slower to see if I'm going to have fucked up collaterals?I don't want to become pineapple man
>>76680090like I said, every fucking natty newb knows better and thinks they thought of something nobody else did in the last 20 years.
>>76680090If you want, just start lower 2-300. You will have to wait out that 4-8 week period of waiting for it to “kick”/stabilize at a lower dose. But you can always titrate up if you want to start low
>>76679962Hello niggers?
>>76680141No one here does PCT we all B&C. Hop on board senpai.
>>76680141hi
>>76679492wtf is this shitty fucking ad for your youtube channel
>>76679939They’re literally doing it wrong
>>76679939tren will not show up on a testosterone assay, low doses of test and heavy anabolics is the most effective way to max growth and avoid sides
>>76679492What's the deal with ostarine? Looking for something mild for my post anavar cycle.
>>766802512 IU of GH
>>76679492If I cut while on gear should I for the most part retain my muscle mass? If so what's best way to cut while retaining gains? Just testosterone.
>>76680258tren
>>76680260Getting more stuff rn isn't an option for me. Takes a few weeks to get to me. I want to power cut by around October 16th, going to a Halloween party and want to cut just a bit around my waist in time for my costume.
>>76680264you're asking what can you do in a month, nothing you can do but pin and diet, what were you expecting
>vitamin D supplements fixed my dickthank god i don't have to fraud for this
>>76680271It's not a lot of weight, I can power lose weight. My question was more will I keep my muscle while losing weight on JUST testosterone. I'm just doing basic TRT, 600mg a week.
>>76680276lmao 600mg is not trt, you'll be fine
>>76680281Okay good. I'm paranoid. I was avoiding even doing cardio to keep my gains. At one point I was doing GOCAD to keep the gains up.
>>76679634>>76679640Grown ass "men" with the estrogen levels of a latina going through puberty crying about words
>>76680310Thanks now I'm going to go jerk off to barely legal latina ass and pussy hope you're happy
>>76679664You mean Brobroth?
>>76679509imagine misc if they had to deal with dyel looksmaxxers and "deadlifts will give you space AIDS", they pulled the plug at the right time
>>76680233Lower your tren dose before you end up killing someone with that temper
>>76679745most sources use guaiacol for bold cyp, making it trash tier. Stick with EQ
>>76679492Diago cut your greasy ass hair and fix your gyno already
>>76679962>pctit's 2025, vladimir
Ive done quite a few different cycles. Ive bounced in and out of prioritizing strength, or physique.Ive been focused on my cardio/endurance for a while now, being off sterons. I decided to give them another go and just train like hell. Bros. Test and EQ (400/200) is the best cycle Ive ever done. Ive used higher dose cycles, and cycles with stronger compounds... But nah everything has so many side effects (save for primo and tbol which I havent tried, and masteron if you can handle the hairloss). Moderately dosed Test EQ doesn't hurt my blood pressure, doesn't change my heart rate, doesn't change my sleep, and it gives me a significant appetite boost, damn near immunity to exercise induced fatigue, and solid libido/sexual performance gains without changing how I feel about my gf or making me a low-IQ-coom-brained-degenerate (like tren will).Im normally a big aromatizer, and prone to hair loss. Estrogen is exactly middle of the lab range and HDL and LDL still firmly in healthy range.Hair fall has not changed since being "natty" (read: off of gear).Take it with a grain of salt; but seriously consider a moderately dosed test/EQ cycle like this.
Lmao
>>76680449Bro is it true he is like 25? Because Jesus fucking Christ I’d peg him for late 30s
>>76680449Why do retards on here think any YouTube link is just automatically the youtuber shilling themselves, I know the vast majority of retards under 30 here will not bother reading the wiki because their attention spans are fried so at least they'll be more likely to watch some videos and not kill themselves blasting tren only
whats the difference between test-e and test-c, i always take test-e because i cant tell whats the difference and my google search leave me confused (im not very smart)
>>76681204test c is better because you can pin it subq. I still think everyone who is pinning into their muscles is a retard. Only the fag taking 2 grams of test a week has a valid reason to do IM injections.
>26>khhv>hair gone>skinnyfat (fat)>depressed sad cunt>never drank or smoke so insides are pristine and ready to take a hit for looksWhat is there to lose? I can only gain. Why shouldn't I start pinning test?30 is just around the corner so if I ever want to get fit or look somewhat decent it has to happen now.So what if there is a possibility that it might take a decade or two off my life, isn't it better to live young than to die old?
>>76681269you must be new here. a good chunk of frauding anons are 40+. you're fine. you won't die 20 years early if you're not taking crazy doses, which you'll never get anywhere near because you're gonna cry at the thought of pinning. you'll end up fucking your shit up taking useless sarms, and bullshit supplements sold by sheisters with an army of bot followers. you don't even know why you're considering aas, but i can guarantee we'll mock whatever dumbass reason you give when you tell me nuh-uh i totally have this all planned out. why will we laugh at you? because there's only one reason to fraud, and your mindset aint anywhere near it. tldr; fuck off before you hurt yourself
What are the pros of Mast P vs Mast E?You seem to get double the mg for almost the same price for Mast E so why would anyone choose Mast P?
>>76680757I think EQ is fantastic as a small addition to support your joints on a cut, but as an actual cycle it's very mild and not very note worthy.>>76681233you can do both sub q. C is just a slightly longer ester.>>76681269>decade or two off my lifekek, from test? I swear if people could take test from a pill instead of a needle 90% of the doom posting would be gone.It's hilarious, people look at bodybuilders at 270 dying and think that's all from anabolics. No bitch it's from the fucking 20iu of Growth Hormone, insulin stuffing themselves till they're morbidly obese with muscle.