>>76680743
I talk to your insurance first then office of inspector general to report potential Healthcare fraud in the form of running unnecessary tests.

>>76680743 (continued)
finding the endocrinologist and booking an appointment with them took me a month (this probably varies by location, but I had to get buy-in from my wife for this)
then from the time of the appointment I'm still on week 2 just of getting these tests done. I'm happy though because I found out I have high blood pressure and the cardiologist gave me blood pressure meds too.
I have one more exam to do, (ecocardiograme with colordoppler), and I'm waiting for the results of the urine test, and then finally I'll have everything done.
I've been lazer focused on getting everything done my endocrinologist asked for. And the whole process is still taking 3 weeks from the time I met her.

>>76680765
heh. I'm doing everything private and out of pocket. It's not too bad and when i get on the drug itself it'll be way cheaper than in the US. I'm an american living in italy. In the US these drugs are way over a thousand dollars out of pocket, but here they're only a few hundred. also all these exams are between 20-150 dollars.

even back in the US, I don't bother with insurance most of the time, it's not worth the effort. like yeah if we were talking something thousands of dollars then I would use insurance, but if I just need to visit a specialist I would rather just fork out the payment for a meeting as soon and conveniently as possible without doing the whole rigamarole of going to a PCP and then getting a referral for an in-network doctor and have the insurance company trying to skimp me every step of the way. fuck US insurers.

>>76680772
Weird I wouldn't think Italians wouldn't be medically baffled by seeing a fat person you must really be up there in lbs

>>76680769
>I'm happy though because I found out I have high blood pressure and the cardiologist gave me blood pressure meds too.
Oh no, enjoy your early dementia

>>76680784
Italy is the skinniest white country. Only 10% obesity rates, and most of that is concentrated in the 3rdie immigrant population.
Yes I weight about 315 lbs though. In the US they stopped calling this "morbid obesity", now they call it "type 3 obesity". However in italy they call it "pathological obesity" which is badass. Glad I'm getting it taken care of now though

just get it from online vendors like a normal person
look up glp1 forum for vendors, annoying registration process but you only have to do it once

I got tirzepatide at 24% bf and no real symptoms besides self diagnosed insulin resistance and got approved in 5 minutes from online good life rx. If you're in America do that if you can afford it

>>76680772
They are also a few hundred in America if you get generic

>>76681250
>just get it from online vendors like a normal person
>look up glp1 forum for vendors, annoying registration process but you only have to do it once
If I was in the USA I would do that. I'm not fluent enough in Italian to figure out how people get grey market drugs here.

>They are also a few hundred in America if you get generic
I didn't know there were generics, I thought they were patented.

>>76681321
I thought so too. I don't know how it's openly allowed. Maybe they didn't get exclusivity rights or something

>>76681335
>I thought so too. I don't know how it's openly allowed. Maybe they didn't get exclusivity rights or something
You know what I think it might be, not generics but "compounds". When the government declares that there is a shortage, which they did for ozempic a little over a year ago, it allows pharmacies to make the the drug in house on their own. Given the high demand for the drug, MANY pharmacies took advantage of this. I don't know if the shortage declaration is still in place, but they may have a ton of old stock saved from that time. I assume if the law allowed them to make it for the shortage, it probably allows them to sell out the stock as well.