Everything you need for upper body.But weighted versions of this exercise.You can also train deltoids with dumbbells.
>>76681010This is only enough if you're cursed with subhuman strength genetics. I couldn't imagine getting any meaningful stimulus from these exercises
True, I would add some push up variations though, pike and handstand push-ups are really fun. Would do chin-ups too
>>76681018post body
>>76681010I agree, but:>implying anyone on /fit/ actually lifts or cares about fitnessCome on :)
I bought this equipment.
>>76681021Why? These are all dyel exercise. Why do i need credentials to state this fact? Are you truly this subhumanly weak that you get any stimulus from pushups and pull ups?
>>76681066please shut the fuck up you bitch ass nerd
>>76681078mad and dyel
>>76681010I Just Need a pull up bar and some Stones i take at lake
>>7668103720kg dumbbells for 30eu? is that right? are they made of paper or what lol
>>76681018If you will wear backpack with weights then you will get stimulus.
>>76681132i can dip over 100kg for reps and just setting that up is a pain in the ass i'd rather just do bench. So just what kind of stimulus will i get from a backpack with some faggot ass 10kg dumbbells? There's no possible way to "overload" these exercises meaningfully. These are by definition DYEL exercises for subhumans genetic trash
>>76681132Nah you can finesse yourself to make it light way way easier than bench and is more of a dance move than a display of strength
>>76681141How high can you jump with a dip just with your chest? Or is it all torque vs speed?
>>76681148I don't understand your question
>>76681151Like i can squat probably 400 something(intermediate imo) but can jump about a 30in vertical idk if im supposed to take a lil half step or what but im wondering how levera and torque vs speed works in powerlifting because i can kinda jump with a chest dip no legs and would fail a 315 bench unless i rested for a good week.
>>76681151For example i could not see ronnie dunking so im just curious about your athletic vs powerlifting feats as my shits all fucked up
>>76681156>>76681163I thought shit like this (rate of force, plyomentrics) matters in the beginning but it really doesn't. Working close to maximal load will always produce full motor recruitment. It's a good mental image to do concentrics as fast as possible on all sets even on warm ups as it primes the CNS but you don't want to be going so hard you start jumping on dips and squats. I only care about strength and esthetics im not an athlete, as if there's even such a thing as universal athlete everyone is specialized
>>76681148Im pretty close to clapping dips, clapping pullups but no muscle up(i kinda tried it on my doorframe one), uh jumping 225 squat. This is bullshit i must be more black than a nigger because im super athletic but dont lift the big boy weights for real. I can kind of cheat it but im not lifting gay i wanna get actually strong.
>>76681181Hm ive been doing speed reps a lot and weirdly enough i was making 0 size progress without rpe10 and speed work for 1-5reps. Im thinking i need to get some cables to do a lot of rpe10 chest/delt work without getting tendonitis. Or i need to grow delts more i just got on delt biased flat bench and actually got a solid pump. I honestly think the lever ratio is huge for weight vs speed in terms of max speed of someone with powerlifting proportions is never gonna be close to vice versa just like how some people suck at jumping by a solid 50% difference in potential or whatever.
>>76681209There's no powerlifting proportions, the guy who excels at deadlift will be tall and ling limbed, the guy who excels at bench/squat will be short limbed and stumpy. A "total" specialist would probably be someone with average build like John Hack
>>76681010>Everything you need for upper body>You can do this other thing for upper body Why there's so many retards on this board.
These exercises aren't bad - the issue with them, just like all programs, is that people do not stick to them. Will they build you a physique like Arnold? No. Will they get you in good shape and build muscle? Yes - if you're consistent about them for a long period of time and recover properly.A program only featuring these exercises is a exponentially better than doing nothing.
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>>76681010>but weighted versionsSo bench press got it
>>76681234/fit/ is genuinely filled with some of the dumbest people when it comes to their own subject. Like legitimately dumber than just the average normie at the gym. I don't really see this phenomena on any other board.
>>76681601if i told you this place is mostly filled with pajeets who dont even work out, would you believe me
>>76681601>I don't really see this phenomena on any other boardlmao
>>76681613Other boards are obviously filled with people who don't actually partake in their board's interest. But like even the brown shitposters on /a/ know their Dragon Ball when they shitpost about it.
>>76681613consistently the lowest IQ posters are whites who follow Sverige raw diets/ "health" and the looksmaxxing shit
>>76681601>I don't really see this phenomena on any other boardYou can't be serious, 4chan is, at best, midwit central.
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>>76681141>i can dip over 100kg for repsIf you mean you strap 100kg in plates to your belt and do dips for reps, I want to see that
>>76682516he won't post it because he's lyinghe won't even post body because he's embarrassingly fat
There are extremely challenging progressions to all these exercises. 1 arm pull up/row/pushup and pelican dips. Most of you will never be able to max out calisthenics. You can use weights instead but there are very simple linear calisthenic progressions without weights by abusing angles and lever arms.
>>76681010if you have access to a fucking smith machine to do that gimmicky shit it means you have access to free weight (nobody is fucking retarded enough to build a home gym with a fucking smith machine)so you may as well just hit the barbells
>>76681037is that org mode?
>>76681010>framelet
>>76681018>>76681066should be easy thenpost body
>>76682516>If you mean you strap 100kg in plates to your belt and do dips for reps, I want to see thatHe doesn't meant 100kg in plates, he was talking about his excess body fat.
>>76681021post body
>>76681066>Are you truly this subhumanly weak that you get any stimulus from pushups and pull ups?Unless you can do 50 pull-ups and 150 push-ups in a single set, shut the fuck up.
>>76681010Great for beginners but if you want to move beyond intermediate strength you pretty much need weights.
>>76682586>>76683589Here is my dip 1rm of +125kg. I never trained dips this is first try. I also bench 200kg and deadlift 360kg. Not every poster is as dysgenic as you guys. Stay humble or be humbled.
>>76683394here>>76684199look how ridiculous the set up even is once you get moderately strong. Rather just do bench press. These exercises are meant for noobs
>>76684199The most retarded lift in existence, getting the plates and yourself in position is harder than the rep. Complete waste of time. Just do bench press.
>>76681601/fit/ has the highest amount of blue collar brain challenged people. They're usually into lifting
>>76681010>no shoulders>no traps>no abs>no legsthey're good exercises, but you're missing so much.
>>76684207lol you absolute diplet fagdips are goated, pepperonitits, show me your glute spread or stfu
>>76684361you must be truly subhumanly weak. My work weight for dips is +100kg, Setting this up takes longer than the set itself. At some point you become too strong for it
>>76684199i like dips but ngl you btfo'd all the niggas in this thread with this post. brutal mogging. this thread is finished. sage.
>>76683710Are you truly mentally retarded? 50 reps is not hypertrophy or strength it's endurance. Why would i waste my time doing 50 rep sets on a compound lift? Keep spinning your wheels i guess
>>76681601It happens on other boards as well. The reason you notice it here is that you have knowledge about exercise.
>>76684403100kg for reps? Yeah I am nowhere near close to that. I can dip 40kg for 12 lol. I wouldn't call that subhumanly weak though (I still get more pussy than you)
>>76684477It is quite subhumanly weak i was doing this in a few months of training and i looked like a stick. You must be a new lifter or truly dysgenic
>>76684465Show me anyone who can do 50 pull-ups that doesn't have huge lats.
>>76684533that's mean. I just have no consistency. I got to a 100kg bench after like 6 months but that was last year.But yeah I don't think I'd ever be able to dip 100kg or bench 200kg, that's cray BUT, you are still a faggot
>>76684662Don't hate me cus you're dysgenic bro. Stay humble
>>76684666did you learn that word yesterday? Mate, you're on 4chan, you don't get to call anyone dysgenic
>>76684651Literally everyone? 50 rep is endurance not strength or hypertrophy. You will never see a big guy doing these only twinks. Anything over 20 reps is junk volumehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsL7y-A-qpg
>>76684671You're clearly genetically my inferior. What's more apt description for you from my perspective?
>>76684674Better looking
>>76681010All these exercises are too easy for me while jacked roided guys struggle to do the same number of repetitions despite being lean and muscular, doesn't make sense.
>>76681841Indian lol
>>76684678You don't what i look like but i do know you're shorter, smaller and comically weak
>>76684685Why? Because i can objectively think without bias? Why is your race so important to you that you'd forego any critical thinking? Nobody is shitting up this board like Sverige looksmaxxer faggots. Read Schopenhauer
>>76684199What exercises do you do for chest/delts/triceps?Mostly just presses?
>>76684696Yes. I believe the most important is the law of specificity. You want strong bench -> do more bench.
>>76684689well from the picture you posted it's pretty obvious you've got a chud face. I'm 6'1, being taller than that isn't really a huge flexa lot of people are stronger than me, but I'm also a lot stronger than a lot of people, and unlike you, I don't have to pick my knuckles up off the floor to type a response
>>76684722That's fine I'm 6'3" 250lb and can rape your entire family. You may or may not be prettier. Doesn't matter here. You're my inferior here on /fit/.
>>76684722Perhaps you should go back to incel looksmax forums where the claim "I'm pretty" might give you some points
>>76684725>>76684729hmm, struck a nerve on the uggo comment did I? All that strength but girls still find you repulsive?Dysgenic indeed
>>76684733Yes because girls are know for being attracted to short, weak men. Just take the mogging like a man and move on with your life buddy
>>76684736I'd have to be actually short for that to be true though, like how you'd have to actually be ugly for women to find you repulsive, which you are.Just accept you're heavily compensating, you thought getting strong would get you women... but it's not working.. is it? It's home time now anon, I'm going to go and fuck my girlfriend in the face and ass. Do some reps for me bud
>>76684759Buddy you're BARELY average height for my country and you're below average in strength. You don't get any special boy points for this
>>76681601I argued this in the other thread about power-lifting: these people would be much better off just focusing on regular workouts and losing weight, while improving other aspects of their lives. I mean the amount of effort, time, and strain on your body it takes just to life heavy shit for 0 dollars (actually, most people pay to do this at a gym, so they are losing money) is astounding to me. And all while not even gaining any health benefits for being in the gym so much.But then again, these are the people who think that because "number goes up", they are somehow better people. So yeah, not surprising.
>>76681010Any point to using the bench for the horizontal row?
>>76684672This is your idea of small lats?
>>76684694No, I say Indian lol because they discount looksmaxxing as this autistic faggot shit when it can help ugly average normie looking people turn into something fuckable or even disgusting people into something notLife is better when you're better looking why are you discounting that anon? Tell me with your basic bitch 110 average IQ why looking better and feeling better is a bad thing nietzsche fag
>>76684801This is /fit/ and you called me indian and now are writing a paragraph of completely irrelevant shit. You should go back to your incel looksmax forum lol
>>76684798If you wanna spin your wheels doing 50 rep compound lifts go ahead. What i'm saying is common sense in bodybuilding for the last 50 years.
>>76684821>gets refuted by own source>deflectsclassic
>>76684829What source refuted me? If your goal (50 pull ups) necessitates you getting smaller rather than bigger to achieve then it's not a good metric for building muscle. Why would you even do 50 reps when you can get a much better stimulus with 10reps with a fraction of the generated fatigue? Again stay spinning your wheels
>>76684844I'm not even the same guy. I also think doing 50 pull-ups is a waste of time. I'm just laughing because>says someone who can do 50 pull-ups as shit lats>posts video example>dude has nice lats
>>76684848If you say so
>>76683725But you can continue doing this exercises with weighted backpack or vest.>>76684199You are roided so it doesn't matter, your numbers don't count, cheater.>>76684289>no absIt is trained when you do push ups.\>no legsPistol squats.
>>76684403If you are steroider then maybe. Stop roiding.>>76684679>All these exercises are too easy for meAdd backpack with concrete/iron inside. Or buy a weighted vest.>>76684768Yes, it makes it harder, you lift more weight.
>>76685182100kg dip is achievable naturally if you're not dysgenic
>>76684207I've gotten 4 plates in a dip belt I have no clue why you think that's hard to setuo it's easier than racking and loading a barbell
>>76684817>go back to your incel looksmax forum lol>is on /fit/
>>76685195100kg dip is like benching 180kg. Not possible without steroids.
>>76684465Confirmed dyel.
>>76686931i did it naturally without training it. I was benching ~150kg at the time
>>76687438>i did it naturally without training it.Yes, bench press and dips is almost the same, equivalent.>I was benching ~150kg at the timeNot possible to bench 150kg without steroids. Maybe if you are genetically built like bear or Mike Tyson.
>>76687544It is possibly you just have to eat more
>>76687556I went to gym as a teenager with other teenagers and nobody there benched even 100 kg. It's impossible.
