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Does CICO still apply if you're on meds which cause weight gain? I've been at a 1k-1.5k deficit for the past month and my weight hasn't really gone up or down.
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>>76684139
>meds which cause weight gain
What does that mean? They make you hungrier so you end up overeating? Or they reduce your calorie expenditure?
Either way, CICO still applies.
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>>76684139
Meds are poison.
Get off ASAP
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>>76684145

A mood stabilizer. Before I started taking them I lost 11kg in a few months by switching to a very high protein diet and exercising frequently, now I've ballooned up and a similar routine only lost me 4kg in the same time and nothing since..
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>>76684175
Why do you need to stabilize your mood
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>>76684139
we should give those meds to starving people to end world hunger
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>>76684175
These are bait threads and OP will look for any mental gymnastics to say that you can fail to lose weight even if you are getting in less calories than your body needs to opperate.
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>>76684186

I've calculated my calories down to the condiments, I haven't been at a surplus in months and rarely get anywhere near maintenance.
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>>76684201
If you've been in a deficit for months then your weight loss will slow down till you cut even more calories. There will become a point where you cutting so hard that your body cannot adapt and you will continue to lose weight no matter what.
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>>76684201
And how do you know what your maintenance calories are? Retard.
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>>76684245

There's a million sites which can do this in 5 seconds.
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>>76684251
>actually being this retarded
That's a ROUGH ESTIMATE, you absolute mong. What you're basically telling me is that you're taking meds which reduce your BMR but you refuse to account for that in your tracking.
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>>76684245
Eat at a certain calorie amount and see what happens. You will maintain, gain weight, or lose weight. Adjust from there. Hope this helps.
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>>76684139
they do so either via appetite, water weight, or energy expenditure. the latter affects cico, not by invalidating it but by adjusting the numbers a bit. ie someone with a high metabolism might burn a few more calories at the same weight and activity so someone with a low metabolism ends up with some % lower numbers but it's still the balance of in vs out that determines weight loss. I don't think they can overcome an estimated 1000-1500 kcal deficit. most likely you're doing a bunch of things wrong, mistaken either activity or miscounting intake, using some generic formula rather than actually tracking. often people even misreport what they actually eat, skipping snacks or not counting evenings out or weekends, lying to themselves. but you could look up studies of the effect of thyroid issues for example to get a worst case scenario. (and they would still lose weight if they were in an actual deficit)
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CICO is always true and shall be obeyed, whether you like it or not.

If your drugs cause you to be hungry and eat more, you are now taking in more calories than you expend and you will get fat. You need to reduce your calories somehow. But yes, as always CICO is the law.

If your drugs make your metabolism slower, somehow (maybe you dont move as much, or it slows your heart rate, or it slows your digestion) then you need to eat less or you will get fat. You need to reduce your calories somehow. Alternatively, you might try exercising more, but that's usually pretty ineffective. But yes, as always CICO is the law.

If your drugs are causing some sort of bizarre water retention, you might gain a few pounds (lets say up to ten pounds) but its literally just water weight, and nothing to worry about. You will piss out the water once your body regulates itself to to the drugs OR you come off the drugs. Monitor your BP however , as that shit is serious. If drug induced water retention is truly the cause of your weight gain, then CICO doesn't matter. However, if you go into a caloric deficit, you can still lean out to offset the water weight on the scale. But its probably not worth it, unless youve got lots of fat to lose anyway.

If the water weight is causing some sort of fucked up lymphedema situation (skin becomes like bags of fat or water hanging on the body) see a doctor immediately, That shit is fucked, not normal and you need to address it ASAP. Dont fuck around with CICO or dieting or anything. You need medical intervention immediately.


The likely truth is your just fat and lazy and the drugs just make you more even more gluttonous and lazier. So yes, CICO applies. Like always.
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>>76684139
cico is a scam go vegan
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>>76684139
>>76684175
Is it lithium? If it's not lithium then you're fucked, enjoy your fucked up brain for the rest of your life
Maybe if you get off it early you can still recover
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Inb4 the pasta
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>>76684139
yes, it impacts the CI or CO parts, so adjust the other one accordingly
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>>76686473

It's lithium the most dangerous one though?



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