How much bigger can I realistically get natty? I'm 23
You're getting close to the natty max, enjoy it while you can
How many months is that
Dude just got fatter
>>766907123 years (4 years, but did almost no lifting for 1 year, so 3 years it is)
>>76690597Twice as big as that at least if you really want it.
>>76690718Lanky weak twink homosexual cope
>>766905971 year shud be enough to give you the frame and foundation.. then you can spend 2-3 years die trying to fill up the muscle.. be as big as you can with 20%ish bf. and also be as flat as you can possibly be at <10%. if you plan it right and do it right, you can get rid of all that marbling you have now and get some quality muscle.than you can hop on (but why unless you aren't making something significant out of it) or gain a small amount per year that looks pretty much maintaining.
about twice your current size
>>76690804unless you're planning to go into competitive bodybuilding, taking gear is the dumbest thing you could do to yourself and the sign of either low iq or non whiteness (usually both)
>>76690748I don't want to discourage you but that isn't a whole lot in 3 years. Are you sure you're eating enough protein?
>>76690969I was not eating properly until the past year or so
what's your height/weight?there's definite improvement there but it looks like 3 years of 6 months lifting each year. and then I guess some change leftover in the 4th.if your consistently taking breaks off you spend a couple months just getting back to where you were.I think you could get about 70-80% bigger naturally. but your intensity/consistency is going to need to increase.
>>76691013Yep I took a lot of breaks.I’m 6’2” and I fluctuate between 185 and 190 lbs.
>>76691030alright so don't take breaks anymore. and imagine you're somewhere on the 12-18 months on this chart. you're probably around 20-22% body fat. and 190lbs is like the max for a 6' natty so can probably also increase your caloric intake a bit because probably 200lbs really is about the right target weight for you. take 5 servings of whey protein every day.
>>76690748You can put on more size. You really don't max out your size until after a decade or more of consistent hard training. >>76691058>this chart>hypothetical -- not real data
>>76690808where i live (west la-sm-venice-malibu), it's the young white guys who take gears and look borderline vague (decent size and separations but look natty achievable) along with some asians. i've yet to see brownoids who are on gear in real life.
>>76691058nobody puts on a combined 30+ pounds of muscle in their first 3 years of training unless they're genetic freaks
>>76691270americans aren't white
>>76690597Thats good progress. You have a good body now, but you’re right on the verge of leaving humanity behind. Another year of consistent training and youll go from an athletic looking dude to a fucking beast.
>>76690597A lot bigger Looks like you needs more fat and carbs and less protein and also to stop eating sugar/alcohol
>>76690597>>76690748You look like my 60 yo dad and my dad lives on coffee and boiled zucchini and walks all day long
>>76692441>Another year of consistent training and youll go from an athletic looking dude to a fucking beast.Or he might just stay the same way as he does now forever no matter what he does other than roiding. That happens a lot of people.
much more, keep going. being natty is peak fitness.
>>76692618Yeah it depends on how committed he remains. Obviously he can decide it’s enough and coast along forever.
>>76691354didn't realize you were beta>>76692618>>76692652it's not the commitment you fools. he looks the same way not because he's not committed but how he trains. if something isn't growing, it's time to drop all the weight and really put some thoughts into what the heck you are lifting. moving things from a to b doesn't automatically gets you the physique you want.
>>76692677If you think those two pics look the same you need to get your eyes checked you dumbass
>>76692615is boiled zucchini a metaphor for dicks? your dad is gay?
>>76690969Not him but I would be happy if someone told me I still had unrealized easy gains
>>76690597Have an ab arc
>>76693094Yeah core and strict mmc on abs/serratus/ribcage on all pushing/pulling movements especially. Probably some squats it also builds a thick core. It helps to put more weight on strict shit.
>>76690597Id say some extra wide/reverse grip bench, and pribably similar shit for shoulders to what youre doing, arms will help get the weight heavier.
>>76690597LEARN TO FIGHT!
>>76690597Whats some shit youre doing? I dont think its genetic max as much as having fucked yourself over for a decade.
