>be me>roughly 30>get bloodwork done>ask doctor to add on testosterone check (as I’d imagine any weightlifting dude would do if they’re not on gear)>get results >test is in the high 1100s>apparently normal for my age is like 500-600>doctor straight up asks me if I’m taking testosterone >nope>am just as surprised as he isBasically I’m fucking 30 running around with the testosterone levels of a ripped highschooler.How do I make the most of this?I just started lifting seriously back in June.Also anons who do take gear, what are your levels, comparably? I’m trying to figure out if I’m playing with cheats enabled or just on easy mode.>accepting “fuck (You)#”s and/or congratulations in this thread
How do I make the most of this?start lifting/thread
>>76694122You’re not wrong.I’ve been lifting and seeing breddy gud progress, I guess this thread was more about “what do chemically altered test levels look like and am I competing with them naturally, or is it delusional to think that?”Also am I gonna go bald or is that just cope?My hair is great/ very full in its current state.
>>76694114Fuck a bitch
>>76694240In the past I was putting up NUMBERS in that regard, alas- not so much, lately.I just don’t feel like it. Honestly, part of the reason I asked to get my test checked out is a lack of libido.Anyone else know what might be causing that? My test-test results surprised the fuck out of me.I think it’s because my anxiety is so fucking bad, constantly, but I already take meds for that to help with sleep (I have horrible insomnia) so I can’t really get prescribed anything for the anxiety itself.>worth notingI was out of meds and stayed up for a little more than 48 hours before getting my blood drawn.Isn’t that supposed to make it lower?
>>76694391Tell me specifically what is your diet and your current split and then we'll talk. Also tell me about your social status
>>76694114anon, either you are larping or have cancer.
>>76694396It’s gonna be a rollercoaster, but sure.Gimmi one sec so I can find some photos.
>>76694424Oh fuck
>>76694424My brother has been effortlessly fucking ripped his whole life from calisthenics alone, when I got a gameboy he just kept climbing shit ALL the time (adhd and just super athletic, but no sports played).I think it’s just genetics, but what makes you say it’s possibly cancer?
>>76694114you're gonna waste your high t energy on lifting? go make more money. do enough exercise to be healthy.
>>76694443Because you are almost 30 and have just started working out.Almost 1.2k without a super healthy diet and at least 1 year of workout in their 30s is super rare for a healthy person. Like 1 in 10k or even 100k.
>>76694396>>76694396I was a popular troublemaker that thrived socially in high school (and for a long time afterwards) but was always skinny, didn’t even have abs because that would require doing crunches like once per week.From 16-27 I drank heavily, after 18 I was drinking a handle of vodka every day, diet inconsistent other than ethanol.Eventually I got into a long term relationship and put on some serious weight, just kind of eating whatever I wanted. Somewhere along the lines I died legally three separate times.The second time, when I came back my kidneys had shit out so I was on dialysis for a few months, and apparently it’s a miracle that I ever got off of it.I kept drinking, as though I didn’t care if I lived or died.After I got out of that relationship I struggled to quit drinking constantly and after multiple detoxes and attempts to quit I finally actually did it by counting calories, which I find a bit funny. From there it was a really long cut and I went from 225 to 155lbs (6’3”), diet mostly grilled chicken seasoned with ranch powder, 1% malk, protein powder, and eggs.After I started lifting, for these past couple months I’ve been eating pretty much whatever the fuck I want (stupid, I know) but making sure I get at least 175~g of protein per day. Lots of (various) chicken, bolognese, peanut butter sandwiches, cookies, whatever. Sorry it’s not more detailed.>pic is arm when towards the end of my cut. Someone hit me with their car while I was biking (for exercise).
>>76694506This I just took.I started lifting in right at the beginning of June. I didn’t really lift while dieting, just walked on a treadmill sometimes.
this is why test levels mean absolutely nothing
>>76694526I know my wrists are girlish and tiny, if anyone knows how to fix that help ur boi out pls for the love of god.>picrel is me as a fat alcoholic Is it possible that I fucked around and hard reset my entire system one of the times that I died?
>>76694114>think my test is low because I'm lethargic all the time and 40>results come back 900ng/dl>even hgh and thyroid are better than average Turns out I'm just lazy
>>76694396Current social status is monk mode by choice, working through another degree while I’ve got government funding.Plenty of mires and still very sociable, but I recently figured out that I have really fucking bad adhd in addition to the anxiety and insomnia so I’m trying to get my life together and stop squandering my potential.I’ve always done really well in school, maintained honors even though I got kicked out for skipping (the school had a loophole in their attendance policy that allowed me to complete the work as long as my absence was excused).I have since maintained a 4.0 through the college that I’ve attended. Also, I’ve broken a lot of bones and injured myself in some pretty profound ways through being so very reckless my whole life but have always bounced back from it.I just thought doctors were being polite when they told me how surprised they were about my healing, but after the whole rapidly bouncing back from self inflicted renal failure thing (and being told that NOBODY gets off dialysis, that the shit is typically a life sentence) I considered something might actually be a little different with me. >>76694547Anon, same (well, lethargic. I’m not allergic to anything). I’m trying to figure out what the fuck is going on.Other than my meager gains, I would think that all signs pointed to low test because of how fucking low energy I am.… Are we just lazy?
Seriously though, what do test levels on gear look like? They’ve got to be crazy, but I’m just curious.
>>766946493-4k
>>76694709Thank you, that makes sense.Alright cool well I guess either I’m in for the natty gains of a lifetime as a geriatric fitness inductee or I have cancer, haha.
>>76694724ya man, i dont think you have a crazy high test, its more like a very normal human being not fucked by problems most ppl have... good start for lifting for sure
>op being the retarded nigger that he is will not listen to me and have this open infection for months and monthsiodine you dumb disgusting faggot. ape
>>76694114>How do I make the most of this?Lift weights, retard. You've been gifted with naturally high testosterone.>>76694649It'll depend on how much gear you take.
>>76694753I have had some serious complications leading up to this point, with the renal failure being a big one.Idk I shouldn’t even be alive, much less thriving like this on a test level.I’m grateful, for sure.I do feel 2-2.5x better about lifting now lol >>76694784I’m nice with the first aid because of how much I’ve fucked myself up over the years, I think you might have the wrong thread m8
>>76694753Also I was pretty sure drinking almost 2l of vodka every day for a decade would’ve fucked up my test somehow.I guess I’m just a weird one.
>>76694830gratefulness is the perfect mind state to be in! just dont think you are special, that never works well for anyone, we all still need to put the hard work in and thats the important part
>>76694114not OP but I'm 30 and a partially disabled DYEL and these are my test numbers. These are god tier right? I do like 5 pushups a day, get an acne breakout and my strength goes up. Problem is I have some kind of auto immune issue triggered by exercise (probably MCAS) and can't do almost anything substantial (might get meds for it soon tho)
>>76694114you might have a liver issue.liver issue -> high shbg -> your body produces more test to compensate with a worse androgenic profileare you a heavy drinker?
>>76696217Yeah, as mentioned a little earlier in the thread I was a very, very heavy drinker.That being said, my doctor told me in the same breath as “your testosterone is in the high 1100s,” that “your liver and kidneys are above average, bordering on outstanding.”Which was a huge fucking surprise to me. Seriously. idk mane I might’ve simply won the genetic lottery.At the risk of sounding like a braggart, I would’ve ended it all so much sooner if I didn’t think “good for you, dude” every time I walked by a mirror or saw my own dick.Now the primary goal during my redemption arc is just “get big enough to mog my permanently jacked brother and offer to open a jar for him in front of other people at thanksgiving.”In a weird way, technically nothing has changed except for the way that I’m thinking about things, but I feel a completely reinvigorated zest for life.I promise I will wield this power in a way that would make you goofballs proud. And fuck it, if this is all just some big fluke and I do have cancer or something, it’s okay.
>>76696072>>76696072Anon I have no idea what most of those numbers mean, but one of them does say high, haha. Your free test is 630~ish though and that’s on the high end of normal from what I understand, maybe not god-tier, but especially if you’re living a sedentary lifestyle I think those are great numbers.(there is a chance I’m missing something, other anons feel free to correct me if that’s the case)What I would recommend:Talk to your doctor, get to the bottom of it, and get it treated/medicated.Write down every question you have somewhere, even just a note on your phone. Get them answered, or get your doctor asking.Understanding what’s going on with your body will remove this mental (and potentially legit physical) block that is keeping you from getting more fit, and that’s imperative.You sound like you do want to be as fit as you can be, and I’m here for it.As for the acne, this is going to sound backwards but get a less intense facial soap and start moisturizing (with a lightweight moisturizer for faces) daily AND before bed.It’s annoying to keep up with, but our skin goes a little HAAM when it’s too dried out- think like how non conditioned hair gets greasy as fucc on day 2 vs. conditioned hair. Your skin is likely overproducing oil as a means of damage control.After a few days of constant moisturizing, it’ll fuck off a bit.If your issue is 100% hormonal it might not help, but this definitely won’t hurt especially if you’re 30 and still struggling with acne.I always thought moisturizing was dumb because I had oily skin, it turns out I was dumb lmaoAveeno Calm + Restore Oat Gel Fragrance Free Facial Moisturizer is fucking goated. It’s crazy cheap for how quality it is, does it’s job well, and is not heavy or greasy at all. https://www.aveeno.com/products/calm-restore-oat-gel-moisturizer-sensitive-skinAnd if you’re ever second guessing wether or not you should get up and wash your face and moisturize, do it.
>>76696072>>76696337If you find none of that to be relevant, my bad- I just wanted to respond to you.I wish you the best of luck on your journey, thanks for contributing to the thread. >the skincare info goes for any anons out there still struggling with the occasional pimple or greasy skinChicks fucking love it when they find out you moisturize, too. They think it’s cute.
>>76696072Your diet is garbage. Cut down on the fats and incorporate fasting into your regiment. I have breakouts as well when I eat trash, which go away when I run 2MAD. 32yo btw
>>76695173I am prepared to do so, b0ss.It helps that I’ve got my literal peak natty condition to look forward to in my brother.I’m kicking myself for squandering my awesome genetics until now, but I’m glad I didn’t fuck up as bad as I thought I had.I’ve been given some miraculous second chance to get ripped naturally.I had already committed to hard mode, I’m just going to treat it as such but maintain my optimism. I will not let it slip through my fingers again.