>obsessively lift 6 times a week PPL>no significant gains>uni starts, schedule completely shit up>can lift once every 2 days, giving me more time to rest>get chest stretch marks, wider frame, arms got biggerMike was right it's all about rest
>>76701339No shit you zoomer retard
>>76701346*shocked in white skin tone and a10 eye color*
Yeah it’s almost as if he knew what he was talking about
>>76701339I roid and never got stretch marks.Congratulations on your obesity journey.
>>76701391>I roidand I will live
>>76701346*brownoid ass hurt at imaginary zoomers*
Move to once a week full body training and you'll never look back
>>76701339>thinks that only Mike Menzter talked about recovery.This is what happens when you're a retard who doesn't read a single article about how to training and recovery and goes to the gym without knowing anything about lifting.
>>76701410>hurr durrr retard fuckin retard recovery muh training gym retard liftingshut the fuck up you dysgenic spic freak lol
>>76701408Bro I'm doing twice a week full body hypertrophy training and feel guilty versus the 4 days/week guys. Is just once a week just less optimal? It seems like once every two weeks is just maintenance at best.
>>76701421that's why you don't take advice from /fit/ of all fucking places
>>76701422I get it from ChatGPT, to be desu with you senpai.
>>76701427And where does chatgpt get it from? fucking reddit? you do realize it doesn't form some sort of cosmic power and it spits out some good advice, it literally writes what other people have written regardless if they are wrong or not. To make things worse you cannot even verify it meanwhile you can listen to someone who's a professional at what he does be it your gym trainer or someone who happened to make Arnold sit the fuck down.
>>76701429It has access to scientific studies, anon. Are you being obtuse on purpose?
>>76701429>take advice from roidtrannies!what next, sleeping advice from fentheads?uhmmm no
>>76701432and you literally believe anything it says without making your own research, anon.best part about all this is that I don't have to convince you at all so dwell in your shit as you please
>>76701432Look up your "scientific studies" and you'll find out that only first and last one may be real meanwhile anything inbetween is literally made up. It's so hilarious when a retard such as yourself pretends to be smart. But I suppose it's heckin chatgpt so it has to be right.
>>76701438My lifts are increasing. I dwell above my shit, as the toilet seat provides elevation. Hope your days and lifts get better anon.
>>76701438>>76701442The debate is settled: science based lifting is king.Let me guess, you have a problem with climate change too?
>>76701445>>76701451you are unironically 15 years old
>>76701339>uni startsLet me guess, you're on a meal plan and finally eating enough calories to gain weight?
>>76701455>you are unironically 15 years oldgod I fucking wish, take me back. 2005 was such a great time to be on the internet.
>>76701464only sane reply in this thread, disregard everything else
>>76701465fuck yeah it was, it was slower, but social media and discord didn't exist. Man I wish I could go back and live out the halo 2 and ut2004 days again
>>76701491>halo 2>ut2004Which private Ragnarok Online servers were these?
>Doesn't train 7 times a week as hard as possible.KEK, David Goggins mogs you hard. It's okay though, someone will carry the boats.....
>>76701498wdym he's brown
>>76701508Browns and blacks effortlessly mog cumskins. Whites are just zesty
>>76701408example routine?
>>76701571meanwhile you on a daily basis
>>76701575>zesty timmy is buttmad at a trvthnukeLel
>>76701580no one asks a plastic surgeon "to make me look black" you're insecure about your skin color and you know it
>>76701571you sure?
>>76701584More hetero and higher test than the average white male. Really makes you think
>>7670158913% despite 50%, africans have not progressed beyond their shit mudhuts if it weren't for white bvlls to have niggers pick cotton for them then you wouldn't be posting here today. Thank your local white massa mokebeboy.
poor newbs getting psyoped by jewnold to overtrain twice a day for 6 days a week then switch to mentztardation thinking that it's the holy grail but the truth is their body is just recovering from jewnold program and thus growingno natural person has ran a mentzer program and grew, it's all comes down to the drugs for both regiments
>>76701592>can’t even formulate a proper sentence DO NOT REDEEM SAR
>>76701597Ive made gains from Mentzers consolidated program. The only thing missing is some form of cardio
>>76701465No browns online at that point, everything was better
>>76701613you'll make gains from anything if yo'ure consistent or a noob
lol @ redditards who fell for "everything works" meme, sorry lil bro, but if you don't roid, the only way to be strong is to get into life and death situations and simulate roiding through abnormal amounts of adrenaline, if you aren't fearing for your life on last rep to failure, once a week, you're ngmi
>>76701597It's not that simple, these guys have personal maids whose job is to be a human conveyor belt constantly bringing protein rich whole foodstuffs. They also have enough money to run a whole lab and ingest it all at once without immediately dying.They also don't work a soul crushing job that they hate.
>>76701413>answers OP with a high IQ post>replies that I'm not whitesomething that a brownoid would say. Fucking fat sack of subhuman shit. You will be fat and look like jello for the rest of your life because you're a retard who can't read because you have the attention span of a goldfish.
>>76701339Recovery takes longer if you dont eat as much sure you wont grow as much being 100% torqued every other day but you also built up a base of tendon strength and hard muscle which makes hyperteophy way easier, technique is better. I can kinda feel when i need to recover for an extra day or 2 but im focusing delts/arms rught now and they can be hammered hard every 2-4 days even if you did the most ridiculous 1hr session just on delts bis tris.
>>76701718Also, overdoing heavy sets for say a month stimulates gh a lot so you also gained a lot of barely noticeable size since the muscle itself has to be stretched over a larger area. I went from 115 mp working sets to 155 with barely any hypertrophy. Look at the progress pics next to a frame of reference good job youre finishing puberty.
Lot of race obsessed losers ITT
>>76701339Has always been. But you'd better give up trying to convince people otherwise because they don't listen. Driven by fear and a misguided obsession, they repeat mediocre treadmill sets with no results, no rest, and ultimately resort to using gear to achieve their fantastical progress. Picrel is DY routine for his competition with all kinds of gears, you need actually far less than this as he already said. 3 times a week with 4 workouts per day for natty, 1 or 2 warm-up sets and one working all out set per workout, works perfectly well for me.
>>76701408The mechanism is similar to HIT but I think exerting every weekly workout schedule in only one day is almost inhumane or unrealistic. It's gonna be like over 3 hours in the gym non-stop high-intensity torture with a large amount of energy. I think most people can't do this.
>>76701582>filename
>>76701838Just do 600mg of caffeine through lungs bro
>>76701394you'll die sooner than me from obesity-related diseases, fatty
>>76701339>just do less lil bro!hmm. I guess thats why 98% of gym guys are DYEL after all those years of 3x rest days a week, right? They are just training, sweating, and grunting too hard, right??? That's why they don't grow. That's why people come up to me and say "you do 16 sets of side delt a week???? Isn't that much???? Meanwhile I am 5'11 205 12% bf and OHP 235 lb with shoulders as big as your girlfriends headIt all makes sense now
>>76701391>>76702034i got stretch marks all over my shoulders, biceps and obliques on a random thursday night gymcelling session from the pump when i was 15, i was nowhere close to fat (neither was i lean, just an average kid). Later at 23 i bulked to Obese Class I at a BMI of 31.1 (110kg at 188cm) before joining the military thinking that more weight = more strength, to the point where two sergeants commented on my weight, I didn’t get a single stretch mark from my weight gain and after losing the weight and having a BMI of ~21 currently (somewhere between 74kg to 76kg i havent checked recently but i am fairly lean) my skin is completely tight i dont have loose skin anywhere
>>76701465>>76701491Shut the fuck up old ass unc
>>76701571Trvke
>>76701339Mike got the right answer but the means by which he arrived at that conclusion is almost entirely bogus.The two most important things to growing new mass is mechanical tension and close proximity to failure.Lifting less often allows people to lift more intensely. Lifting more intensely allows them to progress in weight. Which means growth. Adding sets should only occur when weight cannot be progressed.
>>76701339Getting fat leads to way better proportions, powerlifing too much and doing more hypertrophy before deload. Heavy volume, doing a ton of 5rms thats high reps.
>>76702260He had heavy hypertrophy nailed he just didnt do low rep maxes for real because his tendons are like jello.
>>76702325You don't need to do low rep maxes to progress in weight. People take that shit too far in the extreme. In the ballpark of 8-12 reps is really because it's also the range connective tissue tends to fortify the most in. It's why all the "classic" double progressions usually stress staying in that range and only adding it when you get outside of it. I think that's a bit too timid and usually relies on more sets than you need. But you can do pretty much the same thing with single art training. 7 reps keep the weight where it is 8 reps add 1-2.5lbs, 10 reps add 5. Minimal warmup required unless you're pushing really advanced numbers.If you start with low rep stuff you have a lot less leeway in terms of safety, control, less ability to scale down and have to probably do more warmups take more rest. You really want to avoid taking weight off the bar. Even going to a lesser extent of failure at the same weight while not ideal is better than taking weight off the bar. You're just kind of working yourself into a corner where strength loss is eventually going to happen and consequently a deadending in progress (temporarily). There's no reason to do that except for competition lifting where peaking is needed and regression is expected and planed for.
>>76701339Platz > Jones, Mentzer, Dorian.My program.Full BodyUltra High Intensity + Ultra High VolumeUltra Low Frequency (1×/week)Beyond FailureQuarter Reps, No Partials, No Full ROM45 Seconds of rest between sets40lbs on everything in free weights and machinesSleep 14 hours everydayEat six meals one hour every day Use myfitnesspal and strong or hevy app
>>76701339yeah, thats why all the pros lift only every 2 daysstop being a fucking retard
>>76702928Nope.Natural Bodybuilders from ABA, INBA, & PNBA all actually trains 1X, 2X, 3X per week if they want recovery.Mr Olympia and the Steroid Bodybuilding federations are a cope.
>>76701838>It's gonna be like over 3 hours in the gym non-stop high-intensity torture with a large amount of energy. I've been doing it for two years I'm stronger, but not bigger. It's like hit develops pure strength and no volume
>>76702985Same for some reason i got strong af doing this but i look the same if not smaller than 2023 when i was high volume
>>76702054How did you know that my girlfriend is 6 years old?
>>76701339PPL is a meme for natural lifters who actually train hard.
>>76701828>1 or 2 warm-up sets and one working all out setsimilar to programs with sets ramping up. sure it works. I tried 2 max effort sets on WS4SB meathead template which is upper lower upper and it was great.but then you hear it doesn't work because muh frequency too low, brosplit bad etc.
>>76703629>>76703760PPL is the only thing that works well for natty lifters.I genuinely could not do everything "full body workout for beginners" slop was telling me to do in a single day without feeling like I'm gonna die of exhaustion.
>>76701339Did you also blast gear like him?
There's a reason Starting Strength (the most effective strength and size program) is only 3x a week with only 3 lifts per session.
I lift 6 days a week because I like doing it
>>76701339Post routine because my best gains have been a 6 day PPL split
>>76701339Make sure you're actually getting stronger and not just getting fat though bro. It's easy for a beginner to get delusional about this. Especially at uni, a lot of students get fat when they start due to drinking more and bad diets>>76701391It's all genetics. The majority of people will get them when they gain any significant amount of muscle. Look closely and you'll even see that a lot of old school guys like Arnie and mentzer had them. I know people shredded their whole lives who aren't even huge with 16" arms who have them. I also know people who actually bloatmaxxed and got fat as fuck who never got any. Its just down to: are you lucky with genetics or are you not
>>76701599so you know what I'm talking about ;) ?
>>76701708my sides holy shit, 51% am I rite hermano
