GLP-1s killed it. According to these women there's hardly any HAES activists ever since ozempic came around. Some of the activists have actually died.Are we leaving the woods now? No more stupid tumblr fat activism?
>>76701697I hope its dead im tired of seeing fst "models" at target.
>>76701697The thing is, the whole movement was based on the idea that fat is genetic and not the result of overeating. Empathetic normies bought that, but then a pill came out that suppressed hunger and all these women fated to be fat with no possible lifestyle fix suddenly started shrinking, proving it actually was overconsumption all along.
>>76701763Did normies even buy that? It seems like it died because the fatties didn't have to cope with being fat anymore and they dropped the whole thing.
>>76701765I think it's this. Nobody actually liked being fat. The entire thing was a cope, because not eating was harder than trying to change literally all of society and the world to accept fat chicks. Once there was an effective weight loss shot/pill/whatever, without any conscious effort needed, it was over.The thing is, WHAT was over was fatness. Fatness was a curse on these women, and the HAES bullshit was a symptom of that. Remove the fatness, the retarded world-changing naturally went away.
How were a bunch of dying fat people ever gonna keep a movement going?
>>76701697God I hate fat people
>>76701763It is genetic.
>>76701697>GLP-1s killed it.Nope. Normal people are just sick and tired of fat motherfuckers telling us to change our society to accommodate their fat lazy asses. Same with the g'damn tranny scum.
hmm. I think I'm kind of empathizing with the fatties on this one guys.don't you think it's some kind of fucked dystopia where the men are taking steroids and the women are just as lazy and take GLP1s.it's kind of like bioshock. and the impulsive unrelenting transhumanism is ultimately a large part of the downfall of society.I think things work better with rules.
>"I feel like the movement started to die out the moment skinny people started teying to take it over"You mean the amputees, burn victims, cripples, badly scarred, terminally ill etc that body positivity was created for and by before lard golems decided it was about them?FUCK I hate entitled fatties. If you're gonna be fat, be aware that you're a third-class citizen, and either stay out of my sight if you're male, or accept your slampig status if female.
>>76701697I wish fat "people" kept existing so that I could feel superior to the actual majority of the population.
>>76701763Their argument is>erm overeating is genetic sweaty. here let me namedrop some hormons and talk about signals to the brain to make myself sound authoritativeIt's retarded but not disproven by this.
>>76702174I'd be careful anon, its people like you who fall behind when standards rise.
>>76701697Good. Now we need to shame women into actually working out so they can stop being skinnyfat melted candles. Its disappointing to take a bitchs clothes off and see everything spill down, even when they look semigood in clothing. They see no problem at all in heavy filter, angle, light, editing, makeup and shapewear frauding, yet they bitch about shit like male mirror selfies. I hate women
>>76702007In 5 years the roiders will have exploded hearts and they'll find something horrifically wrong with glp1's. Wa la. Infinitely less competition if you just play the long game.
>>76701763Suppressed hunger? Lolol.If that was it then the obese coke heads would all be rails.No. This shit is litterally fucking reptile venom. Its KILLING THEM SLOWLY.You can tell by the erasure if all healthy feminine fat and wizard sleeve Olympic pussy. We dont know what the fuck this shit is doing and the long term effects. No fucking clue.
>>76702174the most they will achieve is skinnyfat so it's still not hard to mog them
>>76701763it is defacto genetic (mostly), not to say its impossible for some people to lose weight, just that its far more difficult for some than others for reasons entirely outside of their control. your hunger and satiation hormone production rate is entirely genetic. Most skinny and fat people eat by the same signals: when they are hungry they eat, when they are satiated they stop. This means that unless you specifically use a food scale measuring every calories you eat, you eat according to the same signals as fatties.further, people DO in fact burn calories at different rates (even with the same demographics such as activity level/age/gender/size/etc), the human body is incredibly complex and the process of turning food into energy is filled with several comparative efficiencies/inefficiencies which are decided by geneticsall of the above is well studied and knownhttps://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2336074/https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30321282/https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23509106/https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31037612/https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34426171/t WAS a bloatlord
>>76702610muh genetics sounds like fat cope to me
>>76702610Yeah, I'd be a 600lbs fat fuck if I didn't grow up poor on a farm in a third world country with no access to fast food. My hunger is pretty bad, a few hours without food after a proper meal and I get cold sweats, tremors, and flashing dark spots in my vision (I'm not iron deficient). I can still feel hunger on glp-1, but it feels a lot more controllable and I don't get any of the above mentioned bs like tremors, wish that shit wasn't as expensive tho because I had to quit it due to the costs. People who've never experienced it firsthand will never understand what pathologic hunger feels like, you can't even ignore it, you can't fall asleep when you're that hungry.
>>76701982I wonder if these movements have anything else in common
>>76701697>too "healthy" to be prescribed glp-1s>the remnants of my tummy mock me every time I take off a shirt>the recovering stetch marks assure ill never be lovedAt least let me opiate my suffering so I dont have to bear the full brunt of living in the hell that is a bad body.
>>76701763This. HAES died about two weeks after Ozempic hit the shelves. There were a handful of fat influencers that lost weight and got a lot of backlash from the fatties but that was it.We all knew all along, the movement was a massive (no pun intended) cope.
>>76702610>Most skinny and fat people eat by the same signals: when they are hungry they eat, when they are satiated they stop.I've never once been fat in my entire life but I don't eat whenever I'm hungry. I feel some slight hunger for most of the day but I cba to eat because it's boring.
>>76701697Kinda just proves that the whole thing is crab mentality (always obvious but whatever). Strictly speaking you can be kind and non-judgemental of fat people and still desire to lose weight, these things aren't mutually exclusive. The fact that they get pissy that other people are deciding to lose weight just goes to show that their only real goal is to convince other women to get/stay fat so that they themselves don't look as bad in comparison. >>76702363I doubt they'll find any crazy new side effect with GLP1s. They've been on the market for like 20 years. It's just that they were always approved/studied/marketed for diabetes. It's always been known that they lead to easy weight loss as an extra benefit. It's just that they recently got approved for being used solely for weight loss, and insurance will actually pay for it in this manner.Point being, it's fairly unlikely any major new side effects for this class of drug will be discovered that aren't already known after they've been out for so long.
>>76703042>Point being, it's fairly unlikely any major new side effects for this class of drug will be discovered that aren't already known after they've been out for so long.And even if they did, I doubt the side effects would be worse than the side effects of being morbidly obese.
>>76703488naw that's bullshit. people taking it previously off label for weightloss does not help spread awareness of the side effects. except we know it changes your face.but people won't realize it affects their face until later. and then they'll look in the mirror and see someone who is no longer obese. but it's also not them. it's some sort of abomination. so they decide to change something else about their face. and it goes on. some knife cuts. some botox. some more pills. we've traded one health epidemic for another.
Unironically I wonder if creating a social media of a fat AI woman that is active and eats salads would be easy money from HAES retards.
>>76703590Changing your face isnt a side effect. If we are talking about real side effects like serious adverse events there are zero for use for weight loss. Some people say pancreaticitis but in the study for weight loss it was equally distributed across all groups. We have long term safety data for diabetes patients and there are noneIts a super drug. Why does everyone always have to assume the worse. We have essentially cured one of the biggest world wide health epidemics
>>76703627>We have essentially cured one of the biggest world wide health epidemicscan we cure fucking baldness instead please?all these fatties had to do is stop eating that much and use the stairs
>>76703590So called "ozempic face" is literally just what happens with any extreme/rapid weightloss. It's the exact same phenomenon as fatties losing lots of weight and having loose skin. That happens with the face too. If a morbidly obese guy loses all the weight he's going to have a sunken face regardless of whether he used ozempic or fasting or keto or clen or ephedrine or DNP or running marathons or anything else. A former fatass will always end up having a haggard-looking face compared to if they never got fat in the first place. It's just the way things are, and certain damages can never be fully undone
/fit/ niggas be like “your body fat percentage has a pretty significant effect on how your face looks” and then be like “dude wtf a weight loss drug makes your face look different? must mean it’s literally killing you”
i hate how science enables female deception and dishonesty.
BMI between 21 to 23 is the only healthy range. Anything outside of that and even the luckiest person will have a higher mortality than they otherwise would healthy. Ironically, ozempic will be pushing dumb women into the sub 21 bmi range where morbidity accelerates even quicker
>>76701697The imagine in the OP pissed me off. I thought I was taking the rest of the year off after losing 30lbs in 6 months, but I'm back on it. Just got back on Loseit and I'm counting calories again. We're breaking under 200, lads.
>>76701697>>76703929The fact they're so comfortable here - essentially admitting all the lies, gaslighting, and abuse of power they were responsible for over the past decade+ was nothing but a cope for their own shortcomings - triggers me so hard. No apologies. No real self-reflection or atonement. Just casual pleas for the HAES grift machine to rev back up again and force people to bend to their lies.
>>76701697they're gonna gain all that weigh back after hoping off glp-1 bexause they never learned to diet
>>76703929i lost 50lbs since april currently at 195
>>76703968no, some of us like >>76703973used to be fit people that let themselves go.Ive known how to diet for years but letting myself go made me really lazy
>>76703975I'm talking about the cunts in the OP image.
>>76702610Son, I've been a farmer of both land and aquatic animals, and there's one rule that holds true for all life forms, be they fish, beast, or plant.More food = bigger hogsLess food = smaller hogs Take your genealogical cope to the midden where it belongs and hang yourself with it for being such a rube and a pussy.
>>76701763>the whole movement was based on the idea that fat is genetic and not the result of overeating. Empathetic normies bought that,It was actually about fatties not admitting that obesity is unattractive, and gaslighting bleeding hearts into giving them validation
>>76702633>a few hours without food after a proper meal and I get cold sweats, tremors, and flashing dark spots in my visionthis isnt just regular "being hungry"look up hypoglycemia
>>76701797So what you're saying is, if we remove the problem, the symptoms dissipate...
>>76703929Dagoth Ur was the real hero, moon and star. If he'd won he'd have been right all along. That's how it works.
>>76702610Even accounting for what you said, how do people see themselves becoming blobs and not think "hey, I better stop listening to my hunger signals every time"? They should be thinking in the long-term and adjust for their individual variation accordingly. Everyone knows the shitty effects of obesity and it's easy to find out what your maintenance calories are.
>>76701697The irony of all the posters gloating here is that people on this board engage in the same self owning denial as the HAES in a different way. everyone refusing to believe red meat and saturated fat is bad for you despite the decades of consistent evidence from every serious researcher. They're setting themselves up for heart attacks and cancer just because they don't have the discipline to give up foods that they're used to, so they latch onto whatever egrifter validates their limited palate by telling them it's healthy.Hardly any difference between the two
>>76705416>LE JUST AS BAD!!1shut the fuck up retard.
>>76705447>t. spiritual lardass
>>76702527>No. This shit is litterally fucking reptile venom.Fucking retard. You have no idea what you're talking about.
>>76701697If they're dependent on drugs, they'll gain it all back.
>>76701763>>76701835>>76702178
>>76705298Yeah, I was tested for it due to my symptoms, but nah, my sugar levels are fine when that happens, I can start getting the symptoms when I'm still above 85. I've been dealing with it since forever, I'm already over 30, mate. Eating something sugary doesn't really help either, I need a proper meal with protein and fat to calm it down. Otherwise it keeps going and I get an upset stomach on top of that.
>>76705737No nigga, look it up. Its lizzard venom
>>76706145You can't even spell. You're an actual idiot. I bet you believe the Earth is flat and nukes aren't real.
>>76706145The first GLP-1 receptor agonist, exenatide, was a modified form of a compound found in Gila monster venom. The newer ones like Ozempic, Mounjaro, retatrutide, etc. are literally just bioidentical human hormones such as like glucagon-like-peptide 1 (GLP-1), glucose-dependent insulinotropic polypeptide (GIP), or glucagon, modified to have a longer half life so they can be injected less frequently.
>>76705726>>76705416post body vegan soicuck
>>76702527>wizard sleeve Olympic pussyDare I even look this up?
>>76706813I've lost 70lbs and probably put on 10lbs of muscle but I'm still obese. I won't post body. But I've also reduced my LDL from 150 to 60 (and confirmed via NMR lipoprotein analysis that my lipid profile is now mostly less atherogenic), and I do not deny the lipid-artery hypothesis. I actually want my LDL lower for plaque stabilization and regression, I most certainly have plaque from decades of abusing my body with lard.
>>76702527you have no fucking idea what you're writing. Its literally just a ghrelin analogue, a NATURAL HORMONE YOUR BODY RELEASES AND ATTACHES TO GLP1 RECEPTORS TELLING YOUR BRAIN YOU'RE FULLTHATS ALL IT IS YOU FUCKING RETARD
>>76703590its insane what retards are on this board, we're literally on /fit/, how is >>76703782 not basic knowledge here wtf?
>>76706775no wonder ozempic freaks look like lizard people.they took the gila monster pill.
>>76706934cope harder lizard man.
>>76701697G1L-Ps are making my /fph/ threads stale!Who wants to watch that guy vomit on himself in the sports seating over and over again?All the content is dried up.I hate the inventor!!
>>76706929>Its literally just a ghrelin analogue, a NATURAL HORMONE YOUR BODY RELEASES AND ATTACHES TO GLP1 RECEPTORS TELLING YOUR BRAIN YOU'RE FULLthe arrogance of man.
>>76706830all supportive structure gone
>>76706962>TECHNOLOGY BAD!inb4 you post le tranny schizo bomber
>>76706960the real tragedy
>>76706984>a NATURAL HORMONE YOUR BODY RELEASESgila monsters naturally release it too.
>>76707069>NOOOO YOU CANT JUST CURE DIABETES AND OBESITY... YOU JUST... CANT!!! MUH LIZARDS!!!!!!
>>76701697They act like fat people don't exist anymore yet if you go outside you will see fat people everywhere.
>>76701697>health at every size>it was ruined by skinny people! it should be ours!lol come on now
>>76702610this post is high iq
>>76701697I dont think it's spiritually dead. I think GLP-1s made fatness unfashionable as >>76701797 lays out. This can pendulum swing back the moment GLP-1s become unaffordable and/or inaccessible for most even through insurance/credit. Taking a drug is an easier out than changing society, which HAES advocates likely thought was an easier out than self-control. So the root problems are going to come roaring back when self-control becomes pivotal for any reason.Or, even more likely, there's going to be a similar movement in the future on the other end of the horseshoe where people are told to be tolerant and accepting of GLP-1 side effects like the deflated bobblehead look as "genetics".
>>76707084>why don't you trusssss the ssssccienssssssss anon
>>76707095The only place I really see fat people at as an amerilard is my poorfag workplace. I assume most fat people stay inside in shame or are too fat to get off the couch/bed.
>>76701697Based. At least they finally admit it was just a cope and they hated being fat.
>>76701797Jealous of gen alpha that gets to grow up in a world virtually free of fat women.
>>76702007Most men aren't on juice.
>>76701697some philosophies, even ones turned into multi-million-dollar industries, are pure copenever forget this rule of human nature
>>76701829KekUnderrated
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>>76702610>>76708802
>>76708802>>76702610>>76704558
>>76708862kek
>>76701835It's both genetic and behavioral.
sex with women (sex with formerly fat women)
>>76702527>Reptile venom.Nigga, do you not know what medicine is?
>>76702610I feel like it'd be more accurate to say it's epigeneticThe biggest thing a lot of people miss with weight loss is that adipose tissue is *very* metabolically and hormonally activeIn general, if you're skinny it's easy to stay skinny, if you're fat it's easy to stay fatThe phases in between are where your tissues will try to force your hand by releasing hunger-inducing/suppressing hormones and preserve "homeostasis" (because adapting properly is a long and painful process for the body)
>>76701697it's never been alive in the first place. have you ever heard of it outside of online communities?
>>76703973>>76703975Are you me? I had all the tools to stay fit, yet never bothered.Lost 58kg since november 2023.
>>76702527>You can tell by the erasure if all healthy feminine fat and wizard sleeve Olympic pussy.I agree with you (I think) but I cannot understand what in the absolute fuck you mean by this sentence
>>76701697>people told these fat activists that they'd instantly abandon their cope ideology if they could press a button and lose the weight>"oh, that's not true!">ozempic comes out>they all abandon itkek
>>76702527>either they stop being fat>or they die
>>76708623Nah, there still will be way more fat women than during the millennial prime years. The late 90s and early-mid 2000s were peak. After that people started to get fat and that's happening fast.
>>76702610>you eat when you're hungrynot really. there have been plenty of times in my life where I decided to not eat despite being hungry for various reasons, and I've never even been fat.hunger is such a fucking minor inconvenience unless you've actually gone for a long ass time without any food, I have no idea how people expect me to take them seriously when they tell me they lack the willpower to skip a single meal per day
>>76702610This is just bullshit lol 100% every fatfuck is just addicted to flavor and nothing more you're a fucking retard if you think every fatty is just HuNgRy AlL tHe TiMe
