How did ancient greeks/romans get so strong without modern science based lifting?
>>76704951Considering all medfags ever fucking do is lie they were all probably like 5 foot 120 and having gay sex WHEN GOIN TO WAR ANNN SHIEETTT lmao
>>76704951>haha and then i said science based lifting
Those shredded statues with the leaf over their dick were basically the ronnie coleman's of their time. They were living on a malnutrition diet
>>76704951A warrior's physique is not big or particularly strong. The heaviest of ancient warriors probably weighed about 150lbs. They'd get mocked on this forum for looking dyel if they somehow posted their body here.Wars are won with weapons and an army that can march faster/longer than the other. Being big just makes you slower and have less endurance. Your muscles can't stop a sword or spear from piercing your heart. Bodybuilding and powersharting is mental illness.
>>76704951I love 300 too anon but come on now.The greeks were very into physical fitness and had armies of free men but I despise the fetishisation of romans.Megalomaniacal degenerates who fed their slave armies on grain while they marched them from wild free country to wild free country where small populations of meat fed free chads in comfy huts were brutally overwhelmed by sheer numbers of conscripted slave soldiers and essentially forced into the same grain fed enslaved lifestyle.Romams weren't strong, they were skinnyfat dyels who could just march 12hrs a day and hold a formation against the loose formation warbands they fought and ate nothing but fucking bread till their teeth fell out.
>>76705145you're right man I'll stop lifting weights because I might to march 400 miles with a spear and go jab some nigger with it.retard
>>76705156You are not the warrior doing the marching, you are the nigger they march to and jab.
>>76704953fpbpthey weren't strong they just made fake statues of muscular guys
>>76705156>>76705283Just imagine, it's whogivesafuck BC, you're a sun worshipping chad who lives on mostly meat and fish, you live with maybe a few hundred to a thousand bros, women outnumber men so you pretty much fuck whoever and live communally. The women raise the kids until they are old enough to breed or hunt. Your hair is long and braided, and outside your duties to the tribe, you can do whatever the fuck you like and live in a comfy roundhouse that's always warm.Then, a massive army of grainfed manlets arrive and while you could btfo them 1v1 with little effort, they outnumber you and are such npcs that they fight like obedient little faggots in massive impenetrable formations.Your village is destroyed, women taken to be slaves to some elite degenerates or whores, sons conscripted to be fed grain and march for the rest of their lives, and you are sold to be eaten by a fucking tiger or stabbed to death with a trident by some faggot in a helmet and a nappy in the circus.The naked savage was the happiest man alive and grainfed slaves took that from us.
>>76705318based romans civilizing the barbarians
One thousand years of eugenics combined with nonstop life-long training and warfare. Spartans had a ton of slaves too, so they were all actually NEETs and did nothing all day but train for warfare
>>76704951By simply being born a male in that time you'd have 30x the testosterone of any men today.
>>76705350>spartans were NEETsHOLY BASED
>>76704951Jeff nipples and kike israel are eternal. They are here since the dawn of the universe. You cannot grasp a mere spec of their holy scienceness.
>>76704951It doesnt matter because you'll never put in the work. If you really wanted it, you'd already be lifting and not worried about some arbitrary timeline.If someone does tell you a timeframe you find acceptable, you'll go the gym then quit in a few months when you see no progress and then go back to making "how to achieve" threads with a pic of Gooky the anime character waiting for someone to "redpill" you on how to get jacked without doing anything. loser
>>76705318I dont give a shit its 2025 and I take steroids to be huge
>>76705156>>76705283Lmfao
>>76704951Greeks invented science
As someone who has actually read a shitload of ancient Greek texts, I can assure you that they were fucking autistic about fitness. They didn't have a "modern" science of fitness, but they were gymbroing like crazy back then.>Plato actually telling people to eat whole grains, dairy, fruit, and veggies without bullshit in his Republic >entire arguments about which cuts of meat were healthy, plus the white vs red meat debate>workouts with kettlebells and halteres, plus just big-ass rocks and calisthenics>everyone fucking runs everywhere apparently>everyone giving their opinion on how to eat and live to be healthy and arguing over it>physical trainers as a job and 4-day splits in existence already>fucking chalk for liftingWe copy them if anything.
>>76704951Meh id wreck them in a fight easily
>>76706189Based greeks were the original /fit/ autists
>>76706189plus>having a philosophical conversation>stand up and start posing while the other fella is rambling
>>76706189Pretty much all of that is wrong>Plato looked down on athletes, whom he considered often unfit for military service. And he wasn't alone with that opinion.>Pork was universally considered the best bulking food, though old-school trainers like Philostratus preferred beef, or even vegetarian diets for athletes, which were both considered older traditions>Halteres were pretty much light dumbells up to maybe 10 lbs, the bulk of max strength training was done with partner resistance exercises that are done in wrestling to this day>Running was a complicated issue with several training methods we cannot replicate today due to lack of info. Difference between the effects of sprinting and steady state running was already well known as far back as Hippocrates.>Health was mainly about 4 humours (warm-wet, warm-dry, cold-wet, cold-dry) theory, the question was whether the best type was balanced between the 4, or the warm-wet sanguinic type, while the cold-dry melancholic type was universally considered the worst.>The 4 day tetrad mini-peridoization was widely criticized as unhealthy by most surviving sources, even when they were otherwise at odds with each other (eg. Galen and Philostratus)t. actual knower
>>76706836/fit/'s knowledge is far below the knowledge level of ancient Greece.
>>76705350>>76705477All Greek athletes were basically NEETs, rich people who could afford spending all of their time on fitness.Doctors actually had problems with people who had day to day jobs because that made any regimen a lot more complex. A rich Athenian could afford to eat only warm-dry foods and train all day to cure his phlegm-induced illness, but what about a scribe who was not able to train for hours every day, or a farmer who was not able to choose his food?
>>76705145>Being big just makes you slower and have less enduranceFalse.>Your muscles can't stop a sword or spear from piercing your heartExcept they literally can.
why is an anglo playing a greek?
>>76704951did anyone of you ever walked around Southern Europe in summer ?you will see a quite amount of toned, lean and ultra aesthetic mid aged Med guys with very athletic physiques walking around shirtless they mostly swim and do calisthenics they also have the same curly hair, beard and hairy chest look as the statues have
>>76706892>brownoids dont work yes we are all aware thank you tony
>>76707972italians dont exist anymore
>>76707972sorry I dont go to LQBGT resorts in italy, faggot
>>76707982>has to cherrypick southernmost Sicilian gedmatch>still completely within Southern European spectrum >so is the corsican one nice try kike, your women are wet for greco-roman dick>>76707985I do neither trannyjust walk around on a normal shore of Italy, Greece or Spain in summer
>>76706880Where did you learn so much anon? Can you point me to anything?
>>76707992fuck you nigger.
>>76707996Charles Malaponte
>>76707982Damned Severan dynasty
>>76704951Just lift heavy until failure. Don’t be a retard.
>>76707982Sicilians are the master race of Europe
>>76708991Even other italians think you're black and hate you, that's why you infested america
>>76707982Dark hair is superior
>>76705152Male slaves in ancient rome were farming equipment, pulled heavy carts of rocks or got mauled to death by lions for the entertainment of the masses.They most certainly DID NOT fight in the legions.Legionnaires were volunteers from any province of the empire (usually lowborn but still free men) and there was even a pre-selection of suitable traits to be allowed in boot camp, such as showing signs of intelligence, having no less than a certain height and circumference of the thorax, and having no physical deformities.Only in extremely dire circumstances did the emperors order forced conscription among the plebs, because of how unpopular it would make them, and the risk of causing turmoil.You, sir, are a lying kike, still mad after 2000+ years about the destruction of the temple.
>>76704951Sun and olive oil
>>76705152Romans had a pretty good thing going for a while but you are a retard
>>76709621>>76709701>soldiers weren't slaves>have to follow orders or face punishment>essentially belong to the army until their service is up>are fed whatever the army has to give them which is invariably just grain for the frontline soldiersOk, maybe slave is too specific a term for the hyper literal autists here but if you would choose to be some grainfed city poorfag who sign a 25 year contract to march around europe brutally stamping on free people over being a free savage living in nature with limited agriculture that can hunt and dance naked with the rest of the village that only fights when a the village needs defending from spqrbots or another raiding tribe then you deserve everything that globohomo is doing today
