>be me>beginning lifter>on a steady protein heavy diet of at least 150g of protein and 1500 calories per day>following the 5/3/1 routine>my usual applied deadlift weight is 80kg including the bar which I comfortably>tired of hovering around baby-tier weights>add an extra 20kg to the bar making it about 100kg>do 1x5 with real effort applied for the first time>feel great about myself>go to the gym again two days later>can't squat as much as I normally can and back hurts>couple of days later>can't 1x5 100kg and go in the inbetween range of 90kgWhat the fuck is happening. Do I need to deload or go to the hospital?
>>76713162I was just considering this too as a noobie lifter also sitting at 80kg deadlifts, thanks for the tip retard LOL, I'll wait until I'm done cutting before I get out of baby weight city
>1500 calories per daywat
>>76713168Your welcome faggot, learn from my mistake.>>76713177I'm cutting down as I'm a fattie but also trying to have strength gains.
>>76713162Pain is just a sign of injury, be it slight as in soreness or moderate as in sprain or serious as in a muscle tear. You either worked out a little too hard or you strained something. I would just take it easy and reduce your load for a couple days. I don't know what kind of reply you're looking for really
You need to eat more, rest more, and brace your core more.
Stop soing deadmemes, start doing hip thrusts, your back pain will vanish.
>>76713270Hip thrusts are such a meme, you walk into the gym and you instantly see who gets no pussy.
>>76713282Yeah, because you see who gets bussy instead.
>>76713179STRENTH REQUIRES CALORIES,
>>76713286But there has to be a higher limit of strength when cutting, there's no way cutting at 1500 means I can't even deadlift 100kg without max effort bordering pain. I made it to 80kg progressions while cutting why can't I go further, this is still lightweight territory generally speaking
>>76713290Because 80kg is not a real weight and even a malnourished negro with 1500kcal diet on africa can lift that much.
>>76713162>following the 5/3/1 routine>my usual applied deadlift weight is 80kg80kg deadlift and doing 5/3/1. lol. lmao even
>>76713162You went for a 25% bump in one session on a lift with high wreck-your-shit potential while still being newb. Of course your back hurts. You probably cat-backed the hell out of that bar.Heal up for a week or two and then ease back into it. Small progressions: 5kg a week, max. Concentrate on form. If it feels slow, tough. This is a marathon, not a sprint. Been lifting for years, and I'm happy now if I add 10kg to my diddly in 4 months.Also, heavy diddlies can really take it out of you, even if you hit the reps cleanly. A few years ago, when I hit my lifetime PR during an evening session, I ended up with fever chills in bed that night and all my other lifts were flushed down the toilet for days. Don't max-effort your diddlies on a regular basis.
>>76713162Don't bother with deadlift. Its not worth the risk unless you're competing
>>76713587My life has never been better ever since I replaced RDL with good morning saaar.
>>76713162Your mistakes:>only eating 1500kcal>huge weight jumps5lbs per workout or week jumps is what you need
>>76713571>A few years ago, when I hit my lifetime PR during an evening session, I ended up with fever chills in bed that night and all my other lifts were flushed down the toilet for days.Do nattykwabs really?
>>76713162Go to the hospital ask for penis inversion.
>>76713162you're doing progressive overload wrongyou jumped from 80kg to 100kgjust stop fucking around follow Starting Strength and don't deviate from the programalso up your cals to 2500you'll still lose weight but it's dumb to try to make progressive overload novice gains while on an extreme caloric deficit, you're burning the candle at both endseither you cut first and don't both with overload, just fuck around with difficult weights but don't increase it muchor eat enough and lift morealso 5/3/1 is an intermediate program and stupid as fuck for a novice to do, waste of time
>>76714199to add to this I should say: start doing back extensions 2x a week3 sets of 12then in a month start adding weight, russians and chinese weightlifters spam the shit out of these before even starting with barbells as kids, it's mandatoryif you are strong with weighted back extensions you will never feel a sore low back again
>>76713162>go to the gym again two days later>can't squat as much as I normally can and back hurts>couple of days later>can't 1x5 100kg and go in the inbetween range of 90kgIt actually takes like 2 weeks to max out the strength gains from hard workouts. Working out more often is a tradeoff for more stimulation. You'll definitely be weaker if the workouts are too frequent.
>>76713162Arthritis? need some boron in diet. Broax is best source of boron.
>>76714199Thanks anon.>, just fuck around with difficult weights but don't increase it muchI think I'll do this, I like swinging around heavy weights.
>>76713162You know what you need? Two weeks of no workouts to help you recover. You'll come back deadlifting 110 kg for 10.
>>76715698okay but that's probably the worst way to do things because you won't gain appreciable muscle and if you do end up losing all your fat you'll be disappointed with what remains
>>76713162Film yourself next time to check your form, especially how your spine is during liftoff. Like others have said, take at least two weeks off from deadlifting.
>>76715826>two weeks of no workoutsyou seriously want him to lose three months of progress?
>>76716123Retard
>>76715956I just want to get to a point where I don’t feel like I’m inferior to others, having a chubby fat body sucks. >>76715997Is that any time I hit a new pr?
>>76716249>having a chubby fat body sucks.when you get strong and build muscle you wont be "chubby" you will be built and you will feel confidentand it will also be much easier to cut fat because you can exert more energy and muscle takes more energy to exist, your resting caloric burn will be higher and you have a better work capacity and when the fat goes away you will look greatit's a trick to go from fat to skinny thinking you will look good, you will still look lumpy and weird even if you lose 50 lbsyou would look much better if you put on 30lbs of muscle and then lost 30lbs of fatalso the gains in the gym will make your psyche feel good, it's much easier dopamine than trying to lose weight on the scaletrust me, I've been through bothbut follow a proper program, 80kg to 100kg jump shows you have no clue what you're doing
>>76716249>Is that any time I hit a new pr?No, and you shouldn't avoid deadlifts at all just because you feel a bit sore. The key to building injury resilience is to keep using the range of motion you injured yourself in, just with the intensity reduced to a level that you can work through without pain and slowly progress back up. If you take 2 weeks off doing any kind of deadlift motion for fear of snapmaxxing or whatever you won't heal so much as deliberately weaken the muscle groups that already led to you getting injured because they were weak, which is pants on head retarded. Forget about chasing big numbers just for their own sake and focus on progressing at a rate you can recover from while working through your ranges of motion. If you slap an extra plate on the bar just because you wanna hit a big PR without training for it you'll just injure yourself, but if you keep training so as to make slower, consistent progress, you'll eventually hit that same big lift and it won't even feel that hard.
>>76717689zercher jefferson curls and loaded back extensions are magic as well
>>76713168This is me 3 days later, what the fuck was I talking about, tried doing 80kg deads today and nearly killed myself had to go 75, what the fuck man what happened, I just did 1 set of these last week. I think my gyms plates are lying to me
>>76718667OP here, better luck next time. Unless you go snap city there's always room for improvement.
>>76718667what program are you running? what does your diet/sleep look like?stalling at 80kg deadlift makes no sense
>>76718667Try 40kg for some days and just pump away.The body has some downtime when it's repairing itself. Do not force it when it wants to rest.Do you eat good food?
