>>76717575
How are women horny when they have even lower T than the low T guys.

>>76717575
highly optimized horniness endocrinological systems. Such men are athletes of T.
like strength, horny is a skill

>>76717579
Why?

>>76717587
How do I train this?

>>76717575
Conditioning=\= actual sex drive

>>76717575
How do you know they're low testosterone?

>>76717575
Estrogen affects sex drive more than testosterone

>>76717575
>How are some low-t guys horny all the time?
because having low T can also mean having low estrogen, which ratio wise can make them hornier.

While a lot of masculine men or physically fit men surprisingly have a larger amount of estrogen in their ratio. which can make them less gooner brained.
look at all the vegan doctors who are like "my testosterone levels are higher than meat eaters" etc.

>>76718020
>>76718013
How do I lower estrogen?

>>76717575
You've seen their blood tests or are you just making shit up in your head?

>>76717575
I have PIED and I think about sex nonstop 24/7. The irony being I couldn't have sex with the most beautiful woman in the world even if she was willing. Sometimes I think I am living this life because I committed some grave sin in my last one..

>>76719769
Hey retard, get a real feeling masturbator, stop masturbating for a week and then start fucking the thing to get used to lower sensitivity, without porn.
If your libido is fine and you get morning wood consistently you should be able to have sex as long as there's actual attraction and you're not sweating bullets.

>>76717575
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5789215/
Actually read this. I know you're going to say that it doesn't apply to you, but it applies to like 99% of people on this board. So don't try and gaslight yourself into thinking that you're somehow different and special.

>>76717575
because test is not the only factor. my testosterone is higher than 99% of men my age and I'm rarely horny unless I'm actively engaged in a sexual situation.

>>76721199
how it should be.

Being horny all the time = leaking massive amounts of energy on arousal.

Your calmheaded and high-t, as it should be.

The oversexualized people have too much free estrogen. That is what causes the excess horniness that can't be satisfied.

>>76717575
Glenn is high t though

>>76721798
I'm on no fap and I never realized how much more productive I can be

>>76721804
Nofap is really good and the ascetic way, the ideal for mankind.

The problem is many turn it into a challenge of how long they can sustain being horny, intentionally blueballing themselves, being very lustful and not releasing.

This is not how nofap should be done. Nofap should be done with the intent of overcoming the desire, not having it anymore, but not through suppressing it but through learning to calm it down.

That is true nofap, spiritual development. The kind that redditors do is useless. Proven by chad that does whatever the fk he wants and will always be genetically and energetically superior.

>>76717575
Porn addiction
It’s like someone saying they only eat junk food all the time because they have such a huge appetite

>>76721808
nofap is an incel cult.
Notice how nofappers never talk about fucking their gf's.
All they do is countdown the days until they will magically have the power to look a girl in the eye and say hello in the hopes of have sex some day

>>76721808
This. It's not about gaining "magic" powers or blueballing yourself. It's discipline and resetting your mind back to a healthier state.

>>76721816
This is the bullshit side of nofap but there are truths.

One is that, for many incels, porn obliterates their dopamine receptors. Now what does dopamine do? It excites neurons. You can't excite neurons and expect them to build energy, when neurons are excited they spend energy.

Now a dopamine fast or simply reducing high-dopamine activities can finally calm the system down somewhat, which can help incels.

So when doing nofap, if it is not blueballing yourself, it helps with maintaining energy in the nervous system that would otherwise be excited. And the excitement of porn/masturbation/lustful hedonistic sex is really high. That is excitement that can be spent on sprinting/weightlifting/general energy (aura) etc etc.

So nofap definitely works, but it's a spiritual practice first and foremost as it is about building emotional intelligence to calm the arousal down and keep the energy in the body.

Sages used to do this and many more practices so they could achieve maximum energy, which is required for stability (pure, clean energy = stability) and wisdom (genuine wisdom, the quality of kings, requires tons of energy and calmness to get).

Hope this helps some anons understand why the practices work. Loving sex is the only sex that is okay, genuine love based on pleasuring/loving the other person who you also love outside of sex. This way, only through love and not through lust, the energies expended by both the male and female simply mix up. The female receives from the man and the man receives from the woman.

Of course this is in general also an energy consuming process, but the value of love and the bond makes it worth it, making it a fulfilling activity. This kind of sex is of course not overdone like some sex addicts do. But real love is a strenght worth sacrificing energy for (Not necessary for wisdom though).

>>76721820
jacking off doesnt cause an "unhealthy state", porn addiction does.
But every single nofap incel in everyone of these threads is so warped in the head they think that anyone who is not a nofap cultist is also porn addicted jacking off 17 hours a day to weird childrens cartoons like they do.

>>76721833
any benefit from nofap is simply the result of breaking a porn addiction, not because you didnt touch your dick for 1234567 days

>>76721841
Have you tried it?

>>76722146
yes. And doesnt fix your lack of social skills, anxiety or whatever you have that makes you a shut in incel.
It doesnt give you some massive test boost that gets you jacked n shit. Its doesnt give you magical motivation to hustle at work and get promoted to CEO.
In fact not a single successful person every credit nofap for their success.
Its just wishful think by chumps who think it will be an easy fix for whatever made them losers.
You literally do nothing on nofap. Therapy for your problems is hard work.

>>76722344
>therapy shill

Immediately discredited

>>76721808
>That is true nofap, spiritual development. The kind that redditors do is useless. Proven by chad that does whatever the fk he wants and will always be genetically and energetically superior.
Some people being naturally superior and less affected by sexual excess isn't a proof, though. MacFadden talked about this.

>Naturally the injury that results from this particular evil is influenced, to a very large extent, by two factors : first, the general vital vigor of the victim, and, second, by the effects on the whole physical fabric. For instance if one is what might be termed “high strung,” possesses a delicately-adjusted and keenly-sensitive nervous system, the effects of a habit of this sort would be far greater than in those who might be described as phlegmatic in temperament. The phlegmatic temperament is usually protected by superior vitality, but, also by less inclination to indulge in a habit of this sort. Therefore, it might be said that the more ability one possesses, the more alert and keen one’s mental capacity, the greater would be the inclination towards a habit of this sort and the greater would be the harm wrought by its indulgence.

>>76722349
dont worry another 456 days of doing literally nothing and you will be to hold a conversation with the cashier at walmart for more than 3 sentences without studdering and pretending to look at your phone

rising estrogen = horny
this is true regardless of test levels

Are they horny or just thinking about sex?

>>76722344
Low aura midwit detected

>>76722397
Maybe you're just farther down the spectrum than other anons. A short nofap goes a long way, for instance if I just don't jerk off for a couple minutes before/during a conversation it goes much better

>>76721816
Where is your gf, fapmaster supreme?

>>76724399
Its a weekday afternoon so she's at her job.
Where is yours "Mr. I have super levels of confidence from nofap"?

>>76721816
some people do it to try to get a gf
some people do it to trascend beyond the delusion and trappings of samsara
I can finally approach this spiritual practice again after being drained for a year by my last GF

>>76724675
Nobody ever got a gf from doing nofap
And nobody ever flew off to fairyland or whatever gay gibberish you're spouting about

(Vanilla) Porn addict here, I want to coom every day at at least once.
My T is average, low free test though, for the rest like estrogen I don't know.

You are only high T if you can also fuck ugly cows, can you do that?
See Arnold Schwarzenegger who bred that ugly maid.

>>76717575
Before I got on TRT my T levels were around 350. I was 1 of those hornylow T guys but it came from wanting to do things I saw in porn.
>Sit on my face!
>Now let me sit on yours!
Now my T levels are around 1000 and a lot of those kinks have gone away. Only problem is learning how to be straight edge again.

Do with this info as you will.

>>76725273
men have been trying to get girls to sit on their faces for like 500,000 years. This isnt some new weird porno act

>>76725297
Examples?

>>76725329
ur mom and every guy in ur city

>>76725329
>>76725341
This guy's dad and every man in the city.

>>76725352
u and ur dad

>>76725363
U n ur granddad

>>76725402
me n ur 6yo daughter

>>76725415
Me n ur lil bro dressed up as ur lil sister

>>76717579
women just pretend so that they can control you

>>76725297
nah bro all that gay eating ass shit is a gen z phenomenon

millenial dudes werent trying to start submitting themselves into eating ass and pussy until zoomers started watching too much gay porn

when i see a nice ass i want to feel it pounding against my pelvis or bouncing on my balls. men who want to eat where a girl shits are faggots

>>76726420
I can tell you never had sex because when a girl sits on your face it involves eating pussy.
But let me guess, that's gross and gay right?

>>76726466
why is a girl sitting on your face unless your a submissive faggot?

>>76726488
>sex with women is for faggots
this is what no pussy does to a motherfucker.
But I'm sure you feel very sexually dominant jacking off to weird childrens cartoons for hours on end

>>76717575
What nakes you think im low T? My T is through the roof.

>>76726539
of course you do
4chan incels get all the pussy

>>76726497
For real, you let women literally sit on your face?
Like yeah, I'll eat a chick out occasionally, but you let her put her whole weight onto your head, pressing you into the bed or what?

Pussy isn't to be worshipped like that lad, grow some self-respect.

>>76717579
They aren't horny.

>>76726409
This guy knows.

>>76717575
You will note that normal to high t guys have vanilla fetishes while the low to no test guys like grody shit like rimming, bbws, pedophilia etc.

>>76726466
He's right tho, eating ass is a zoomer fetish. Started as shitposting spam but zoomers believe everything they read online so they took it at face value.

>>76726902
it used to be called a rim job and people have been doing it through history

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>>76717575
Daily 12 hour goon sessions of the most perverted pornography you cant even possibly imagine will drive your T down

>>76717579
women dont get horny only guys do

>>76717575
Look in the mirror and repeat that question.

>>76721833
>porn obliterates their dopamine receptors
hard for me to take this seriously because I have done a lot of drugs that are hard on receptors and I fuck all the time without issue

>>76726539
>never having lesbian sex
very sad desu

I think it depends on what you're fapping to.
>real porn
>takes forever to get hard
>takes forever to cum
>0 interest after finishing and don't feel like touching it for a week after
meanwhile hentai
>instant boner
>constant edging for hours
>ready to go again right after cumming
You guys always talk about T levels or whatever but I think its just because you're trying to get off to shit you aren't attracted to.

>>76717575
Horniness is a psychological habit. You can be horny and be thinking about sex all the time, while having rock bottom T levels and being too shy and too much of a pussy to actually go out and get it. In fact, it's extremely common.

The opposite is also true. You can train yourself to not let your horniness be triggered and have high T while not thinking about sex at all. Usually happens to extremely busy and ambitious people, people extremely passionate about their art or craft, workaholics and similar people.

Of course, this will sound like nonsense to anyone who's never experienced it.

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>>76721816
>Notice how nofappers never talk about fucking their gf's.

>>76717575
They're not low test, that's why

Being high T doesn't necessarily mean you'll be muscular, if you're referring to the scrawny guys like quagmire.

You can have high test but not really eat and not lift, you'll be skinny but your test levels will remain high. And I'm confirmed to be high T, got checked multiple times and always came back in the 900 - 1000ng/dl range. Before gym I was skinny as fuck, hovered around 130lbs. And even now I'd just get shit on and called dyel if I posted body. High test isn't everything bro

>>76721804
Damn dude how much were you jacking off? Can just work one out in 5 minutes and then go about your day?

>>76728413
>this one example out of a million nofap incels proves you're wrong
Its also a larp so who cares faggot

>>76726466
>>76726420
Eating pussy is fucking gross and submissive, not to mention bad for your health in the long run because of the bacteria.

>>76727982
Women doing it to men not the other way around, it's disgusting parasite fetish shit.

>>76729038
>incel who is literally afraid of some pussy is telling everyone how real men have sex
lmao

>>76726902
no it isn't. it's been a thing for centuries lmao

>>76728442
Or you suck major penis at lifting.

I could get you huge within a year easily you wanna pay me some money? You must be so stupid you cant read and need a video chat. I mean if you paid me enough ill dm you physique but this sounds like a gay op queerbait post so.

>>76728413
I jerk off maybe an hour a day at best and still fuck my gf 2-3 times a day. I can't imagine fucking 10 times a day unless the person is a 2 pump chump and/or unemployed.

>>76729058
>I could get you huge within a year easily
so why dont you?

>>76717575
The effects of various sex hormones on horniness is pretty complicated. A lot of the endocrine system is interconnected with a bunch of other things and a lot of hormones and the balance of them are often partially responsible for things like horniness, wakefulness, and hunger.

>>76729069
And here we are again with post physique im not posting videos for free ill get filtered by youtube. I have a webcam and a home gym anon im not fucking around here.

>>76729093
I didnt say post body, did I faggot?
I asked why you dont get huge in a year if that's all it takes

>>76729069
And for all i know youre some liberal trying to doxx me in case you were also wondering why besides starting an onlyfans with my pictures you son of a whore.

>>76729101
I am pretty jacked you should see my physique

>>76729104
are you retarded? Asked why didnt you get huge if you can do it easily in a year?
I dont want your pics or address, just an explanation you dyel faggot retard

>>76718990
not a doctor, but I can say from hearing horror stories that artificially lowering estrogen can be just as bad as roiding. i've heard stories of tough guys all of a sudden getting social anxiety or panic attacks when they fuck with their estrogen with AI (aromatase inhibitors, prevents estrogen from being formed within the body)

>INCEL
>NO YOU'RE INCEL
Nice conversation, retards.

>>76717575
I'm not even horny when I want to fuck. I'm just a fiend who can't help himself when he sees a pretty woman

>>76729126
I didnt start off with high level lifting iq?

>>76729126
I made more progress this year than the 2 years prior?

>>76729512
You said you could get huge in 1 year. Now you're up to 3 and still arent huge

>>76717587
Tfw hornlet

>>76729493
I am incel

>>76726466
i will never forget how amazing my exs pussy tasted and then she started vaping and her smell and taste of her entire body became gross and 'bitter'
eating pussy is like eating meat you gotta get a free range hormone free pussy

>>76729499
>I'm not even horny when I want to fuck

m8... you might be retarded