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Injected 250mg / week but can’t feel shit, just feel tired / dying . Did I do something wrong

>>76726227
250mg is hardly worth doing unless you plan staying in indefinitely

Can I keep my gains coming off or will I look dyel?

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Looking to become fraudulent soon. A month or two ago before i started reading about any of this I ordered a DIY bloodtest to check my T levels out curiosity from a website called Maximus Tribe. Are there any missing stats from what they report on or are they good to use for bloodwork? In NY so my options are apparently a bit limited.

>free t 121pg/ml
>total t 482ng/dl
>vitamin d 50 ng/ml
>LH 6.3 iu/l
>FHS 7.7 iu/l
>E2 19.9 pg/ml
>SHBG 23.5nmol/l
>ALT 28 u/l
>PSA 8.4 ng/ml

This is what they measure and what I came back with. 34yo, from what I can gather these numbers are pretty unremarkable, not great, not terrible. I think I have a good handle on the beginner cycle and all the various components + what they do but I want to make sure im not just winging it by monitoring my bloodwork during and after the first cycle. Going to do the basic 500mg Test E cycle for 20 weeks, AI every 3 days (maybe, depends on E2) and HCG throughout the cycle so my balls dont wither up, followed up by the recommended PCT that i dont remember off the top of my head and im too lazy to go look right now but whatever the wiki said under option 1.

Anyways point being is do I need any other data points for my bloodwork? Dont care about blood pressure because mine is naturally low to the point of being borderline problematic, and lipids were fine when I had real doctor bloodwork 6 months ago back before I started eating clean so im sure those will be fine too. Thanks fraud fags stay swole

>>76726406
>34 year old boomer wants to pct
top kek

>>76726227
what did you expect to "feel" from 250mg test/week?
Be specific.

>>76726406
you plan on taking AI based on numbers on a lab report or by symptoms?

>>76726089
who is she?

>>76726513
I am 12 and what is this?

>>76726522
Both i think? From what I understand, crashing E2 is worse than having too much (and too much can be quickly nipped in the bud it seems), so ill just keep AI on hand and see how I feel and get blood work 6-8 weeks in to get an objective number and adjust if the numbers dont look good or if I show symptoms. Im thinking of bloodwork 8/16/24 weeks in, so ill have two snapshots of during the cycle and then one a month after ending it. Idk dude honestly I just started researching and I think I have the dosing down but the bloodwork + maintaining E2 side of things is what I want to spend more time learning about.

>>76726597
jfc just fucking pin, lift, eat and take an AI when it feels like you need it

>>76726406
Zip.. this will do.

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>>76726601
>jfc just fucking pin, lift, eat and take an AI when it feels like you need it

>>76726089
>Why Can’t You Retards Bake
I was waiting for you

>>76726345
Depends
If you look like a dyel now, you will keep most of it
But you will lose a noticeable amount as well

>>76726513
Ignore this anon. It's a sensible idea to plan on coming off and doing a PCT for your first cycle and reassessing if you want to bother frauding. You can always change your mind and decide to stay on bnc/trt once you've started.

>>76726759
>baiting noobs to pct after their first cycle
is this the new forced meme

>>76726809
Why are you such piece of shit? Some people will do a cycle, decide it's not for them and bail midway through or never bother using again. Why would you tell someone that's never pinned themselves before to commit to bnc/trt forever right off the bat?

>>76726089
500 test e here


I have read a lot of time here that test can change someone sexuality in turning them gay. So ya, ok this happened to me but opposite! I used to be gay-leaning, but after testosterone I've become pretty equally straight (sometime i feel bi). I've heard it happens with lots of trans guys! I'm sure there's way more to it, but I think it has a lot to do with feeling comfortable in your body. after a while on t I became more secure with my identity, so I think it made me feel a lot more comfortable romantically/sexually as a result.
So yeah, I thought of myself as bi and somewhere on the ace spectrum before T, but now I'm definitely just straight (i still want to be bi tho). The biggest change was definitely just having a sex drive at all since I didn't really before, but it's also hard for me to even remember why I thought I was bi because my attraction to women is so non-existent now
As others have said I don't really think of this as T changing my sexuality but more like it making me comfortable enough to grow into it. I held on to being gay pre-T because I knew I couldn't possibly be a straight girl but didn't understand my gender yet. I also could never really picture my future, but now when I do I can only see myself with a man, or possibly a nonbinary person, definitely not a woman. That's what made me confident in saying I'm straight for now.

Why the fuck is ment so hard to find these days?

>>76726809
Yeah broski just take steroids for the literal rest of your life as your first cycle dont listen to those pussies that say otherwise!

Fucking idiot lol

>>76727761
Starting my first 2085 week cycle of tren tomorrow

>>76727785
why 2085? bump that up to 2606 at minimum, or, better yet, 3127. i don't understand why people keep doing such short cycles. you'll only just start seeing effects at 1563 weeks. ride them gains, yo

>>76727737
I've got 20 vials of ment I got from the tranny a couple years ago but I'm ascared to take it lol.
I think I'll try it when I cut next spring since its known to increase blood pressure and the sema take when I cut crashes my bp

>>76726905
>>76727761
>it's just 1 cycle bro
>let me put my body through hell during pct and lose half of my gains
he should stay a nattycuck if he thinks about coming off, niggers expecting to get huge after 1 cycle are delusional.

>>76727975
Nigger nobody said anything about getting huge, its literally just a beginner cycle, wtf are you even talking about

Noob here, why cant I hop on gear as a beginner? Like why do i need to already have been working out for years? Im not challenging that but i just want to know what the actual reason is because when I try to look it up on my own all i get is
>youll be sorry!!1
>haha try it and see what happens!
>you have to be at your gEnEtIc PoTeNtIaL
>you cant just take shortcuts because you just cant okay!?!?
>its really bad for you just believe me!

Im almost 30 and a DYELcel and i dont wanna spend years when I can do it in half the time. Its not like im a teenager whos endocrine system is still developing or growth plates still expanding. Whats the actual reason for not taking gear if youve been working out for less than half a year? Like why does it even matter that im not hitting my natty plateau without it, what difference does it make if thats where id be fine being in the first place? I plan on continuing to go to the gym pretty much forever but why not get a boost in the beginning so I can get bigger faster and then just stay there?

Is all of this just cope from people who fell for the meme and needlessly waited before juicing and now think everyone else needs to waste their time like they did? Or is there actual real evidence to support waiting years and years before starting your first cycle?

To anyone here who uses 0.5" insulin pins for their delts, you ever draw with that pin an use the same one to inject? Thinking of doing that rather than backloading, just curious if others have bothered with that an your experiences? Heard half inch get badly dulled/blunt after drawing?

>>76727975
Read what I said again you retarded nigger.
>It's a sensible idea to plan on coming off and doing a PCT for your first cycle and reassessing if you want to bother frauding.

When is tren e going to leave my system bros? 2 weeks?

>>76728185
Just start blasting and stop overthinking
If you're set on doing gear just do it
>Is all of this just cope
There's some truth to it. I'm pretty sure your ligaments are too weak to hop on gear straight on. There's a chance you will injure yourself, because muscle grows faster on gear while tendons grow way, way slower. You can fuck up tendons and joints easily without any prior lifting experience (which not only involves actual body adaptation to lifting, but also your lifting technique)

But you do you. Do a simple cycle first to see how it goes
I'd recommend lifting for, like, maybe a year first. Because you will have those noob gains that feel like being on gear. You will progress very quickly without any steroids. I mean after 6 months of dilligent lifting you WILL look different AND people around you WILL notice that. Roiders can only dream of progressing this quick. So there's that.

>its really bad for you
It's not good for your health, that's for sure. Most "fun" of steroids comes from dealing with sides. Pinning test is just a small part of your usual cycle, then you do AI, SERMs, do bloodworks, check lipids, get mental sides, night sweats, crashed E2 or elevated E2, etc, etc. And then you start jerking off to tranny porn. Many such cases
But you will get swole. And your balls will become very small

Just learn how to lift first. You will fucking tear your arms off on gear without prior experience

>>76728385
>>76728385
Honestly didnt even consider joint/tendon issues, I could definitely see that fucking my shit up. Thanks anon. Ive been working out for 6 months or so and have seen tremendous results at least compared to how I looked before, but im still not big or anything. Honestly I just got divorced over the winter, i fell for the marry your highschool sweetheart meme and i became complacent while she blew up into a disgusting blimp and stopped putting out and then had the gall to cheat on me. Now im just completely dead inside and full of regret over wasting the prime of my youth being married to a slob and not taking better care of myself. Im just trying to get big quickly as possible so I can looksmog on the apps and feast on dumb college girl pussy before i turn into an old 30yo boomer. Do you think it would be bad if I start blasting just test at say maybe 8 months instead of waiting til the 1 year mark?

sarms would be so fucking based if they were as cheap mg for mg as roids, and if you could find high concentration injectables

>>76727737
Plenty of ment if you check the sources on SST...

>>76726324
Why do retards say this shit?
100mg/wk will have most people feeling much better than natty, a constant 600+ ng/dL (and upper-range to supraphysiological free test) without any of the variation that comes with being a nattycuck.
250mg puts me at almost 3000 ng/dL TT and 1000 pg/mL free test.

>>76728747
post your huge awesome 3000 ng/dL body

>>76727593
What the fuck did I just read

>>76728778
you first, tren troon

>>76726905
Not him, but 100% of the time that's the path for everyone.

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Natty AF

39 years old

Gonna get on GH next month, going to taper up to 4iU and stay there for 6 months or so on this bulk, split am/pm

Keeping an eye on blood glucose and a1c,

Then after my cut I’m gonna hop on

500mg test c (split eod dosing)
4iU hgh split am/pm
16-20 weeks

No hcg unless I decide halfway through that I’m gonna come off and pct, otherwise my pct will be 100mg test a week and adjust from there

>>76728747
>a constant 600+ ng/dL
I don't "feel" better even with 1000 ng/dl, the fuck are you talking about

>>76728829
And?

>>76728844
There's another hormone for your kind of dysphoria, hon.

>>76728849
And it’s a steroid thread you faggot

Rate my cycle or get out

>>76728829
looks like a great plan desu, make sure you have aromasin on hand if you need it.

>>76728872
Thankyou I will do,
Hoping I need it minimally if I start at lean as I can and keep a good diet, plan would be half a tab if I had obvious symptoms, and then half a tab again when symptoms return to attempt to establish a dosing schedule

I’ll prob get bloods twice on cycle but I’m naturally low blood pressure and all other markers are good

Not 100% sure if I’m wanting to pin for the rest of my life, but there’s only one way to find out

>>76728829
If that's you desu what's the fucking point man? You already look great and roids are just gonna make your acne way worse. If you are gonna go that route start accutane NOW

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>>76728829
>>76728891
Good natty physique bro, don't fall for the lean bulk meme. Bulk as usual and cut, you'll get way better than spinning your wheels. You're like 150-160? My trt bro looks about the same.
>>76728747
Just test is a meme, nobody gets a influencer physique from lmao test, test isn't gonna save you from anything and you'll notice it slip off mentally after about month.

>>76728974
Probably because he actually wants to look like he lifts in a shirt while being lean. Natty faggot.

>>76728974
I didn’t even consider that as acne to be honest, is a few pimples acne? It’s never bothered me, I work a manual job and I think a sweaty shirt doesn’t help it… but I’m not concerned about it and I never had acne as a teen

>>76729014
Thanks , yes it’s me. I’m 195, but I’m tall

I would bulk properly 500-700kcal surplus’s, not a stranger to bulk and cu
Thanks

>>76728194
i've never backfilled. might have crazy scarring everywhere, but it's not caused any problems... yet.
>>76728496
not that anon, but he's right. as for time, it's whatever. learn how to lift properly, work on your form like crazy, learn how your body feels, then blast away. if it hurts natty, it'll hurt on gear, so pay attention to what your body is telling you. and, yeah, take it slow. dont progressive overload constantly. low weight high reps will help keep you from tendon injuries

>>76728829
There is no point for you to use PEDs. You have an excellent physique already. Sure, you will get bigger and stronger. But you won't get more aesthetic, and you will be less healthy for it.

>>76729136
This thread is full of faggots.
Roids are for getting huge. Dude wants to be huge.
Like I said a million times, all you faggots roid just to look like slightly bigger natties

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>>76729146
Natties genuinely think test will turn them into a bodybuilder, hilarious.

>>76729146
>all you faggots roid just to look like slightly bigger natties
I roid to look like a bloated fat and wide retard

>>76729251
Ah, the ment crew is here.

What could go wrong if I blast DHT?

>>76729258
its that tiresome natty faggot who thinks he's "btfo the roidtrannys" with his le epic trolling

>>76729019
What is this meme? Do you guys not wear properly fitted shirts? Only reason he'd look DYEL in a shirt is if it didn't fit him properly or if he has crippling body dysmorphia. Right now he basically has peak aesthetic appeal.
>>76729040
Trust me bro, it'll get 10x worse when you hop on. For most people they just get a few pimples on gear, but if you already have acne it's just gonna get way worse. I had pretty bad natural acne probably 2-3 new pretty sizeable pimples on my back every day, kinda exploded when I hopped on. Not cystic but a LOT of like really, really oily pimples. Only accutane made it go away and now I basically never get any regardless of gear. My advice is to hop on accutane now and try to hit your cumulative dosage before you hop on, then just microdose like 10mg every day your first blast.

>>76729296
I blast 2gs of gear and no acne. Shut up faggot

>>76729287
Wait till cystic acne anon pops back….. wait

>>76729306
That's crazy man so you had significant acne prior to gear usage like the anon I was responding to and it went away when you started blasting two grams of gear? No? Then not really sure why you'd think that was worth saying
>>76729311
I am not the fucking cystic acne anon you motherfucker I even explicitly said NOT cystic acne specifically for that purpose.

>>76729136
>>76729296
top kek, who gets terribly acne with basic ass 500 test. you nattycucks are retarded, just keep taking your jeet herbs to increase your babby low test and leave this thread.

>>76729270
nattycuck nigger stop spamming your retarded larping question. You won't blast dht. you won't even buy dht. You don't even know what dht does

>>76729327
I had acne starting out, I increased my injections to ed. Gone. You type like a gate keeping natty, get out of the thread.

>>76729251
based and truthpilled

>>76729311
pops back.... toppest kek

>>76729360
Seething kike.

>>76729360
I could test roids on a cheap castrated dog and send him to bite your dick off.

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>>76729455
nta, you can always tell when natty faggots like you just endlessly theorycraft. At least post some tits while you're masturbating.
>>76729476
You wouldn't even be able to find gear, much less nut up enough to actually order it.

>>76729019
why are they even here lol, they read fraud just to piss themselves off

>YOU NIGGER I BLAST MY ANUS AND HAVE NO ACNE THAT MEANS NO ONE WILL HAVE ACNE
>NO FAGGOT YOU SHOULD PIN 50 MG OF TEST A MONTH AND IT WILL WORK
Tranny threads on reddit are more helpful than these threads
>go to said tranny threads then
I'm IP permabanned on reddit though

>>76730518
You faggots explode in rage when you get told to run 500 test, you can’t be helped lmao.

>>76730558
Who? Me? I blasted 500 mg t and 1000 mg eq with tbol and felt fine. It was a mild cycle. I don't believe in microdosing anabolics

>>76728747
None of that shit matters, you dyel faggot. Real world results are what people care about and no-one is getting jacked from 250mg a week. Just suppressing your HPTA to still look natty.

>>76728817
Survivorship bias. We're all here because we like gear and bnc. Some people try it and get freaked out or decide it's not worth it, so they quit and never bother again. When you're here or meso or talking to guys you train with of course you're talking to the former category so if that's your sole frame of reference they it gives the impression that everyone that tries steroids decided to stay on forever.

I just did my last pin of my first cycle, I'll start taking SERMs in two weeks but I'm not sure I should use HCG too, I haven't used it during the cycle because I had no side-effects, but I guess it's kind of late now?

Feel like doing a test cycle after a decade since my last one given i want to really focus on mobility for a while but not loose too many gains.

Anyone know what the current UK landscape is like regarding UGL and online orders? Any seizures going on?

>>76731026
>I guess it's kind of late now?
Yes

>>76729311
I am always lurking but i decided to stop spamming with my hopeless situation, i already accepted my suicide because of the acne, i might post a picture eventually before i truly kill myself. Even laser company or any company that can cure scars refuse to help me saying my problem is way too severe. i know /fraud/ think im larping or exagerating, i truly wish it was the case.

please be safe and i hope none of you have to go through what i am suffering through. i feel it was wrong to accuse steroid, i might have got unlucky with a contaminated vial or something

love you all, be safe

>>76731120
The terminal acne indian strikes again!
>I am always lurking
You post in every thread though

>>76731130
in all honesty i havent post in several thread, i know there is someone else also pretending to be me but he always write short sentence because he cant copy my broken english properly, i have accepted my fate (suicide)

>>76731117
Ok, next time should I start doing HCG near end of cycle?

>>76731138
Ask more experienced roiders. As far as I'm concerned you start doing it 3 weeks in advance before the end. OR some do it throughout their whole cycle, with smaller doses
I'm not sure what's the best way

>>76731088
>Anyone know what the current UK landscape is like regarding UGL and online orders? Any seizures going on?
Seizures? Lol, that hasn't been a thing in over a decade. However now is a terrible time to start due to the China raws shortage. A bunch of labs shut up shop over it, including the most used ones like Southern Ghost and Chilton. I've if the guys from Bullion has got a silly of raws from somewhere and branding as Critical all over tiktok and instagram. His prices are shit though. I use Fenrir personally.

>>76731120
lately i have been mostly using bio-oil, a jade roller and blue/red light therapy.. it seems to make them less bumpy..

>>76729612
lol american, everywhere else you can just order them online

>>76731230
You natties are uppity, high estrogen naturally must suck

>>76731246
lol insecure roided faggot

>>76731205
Eh I've been fucked with a seizure and subsequent police in the past. So personally very keen to avoid repeat.

Where's best for source talk. I used to get from musclebond but that was a long time past.

>>76731297
Were you selling or had enough vials for them to accuse you of selling? If not that sounds like a larp since it's not illegal to purchase or own steroids for personal use in the UK.

Eurofags and eurofaggots are cringe

>>76726089
I would worship her legs like I was devouring the sweetest ice lolly, the softest short rib, the creamiest bar of chocolate.

>>76731343
Got caught on the import which is illegal, just test, pct and AI

>>76731391
how does that work? you couldn't deny having ordered it? wild

>>76726406
AI seems unecessary. Have it on hand in case you start getting gyno, but dont take it unless you see a disaster. Also, if youre going to do a 50 week "cycle" give yourself 4-6 weeks to let your body adjust and recalibrate to everything. Test takes a few weeks to "feel" anyway, insofar as muscle growth goes, although you might feel sexual/side effects sooner.

I would consider adding in some Winstrol after that 4-6 week period. Its a DHT so it wont aromatize and its awesome for strength and growth. 50 mg/day is great. SInce youre running 500 test for so long, the higher test will allow you to make the oral gains more "permanent" as it will slowly grow red muscle tissue to support the quick neurological gains isnpired by the orals. Ifyou get blood work done and liver values are hig, drop it out after 8-12 weeks. I live a clean lifestyle (no drinking, no other drugs, very few vitamin and mineral supps) so my liver always feels good on orals. Frankly 2-3 beers a day probably stresses your liver more than orals steroids, and people live like alcoholics for decades without problem. YMMV

But WInstrol and 500 test is a great little cycle.

If you are E2 symptom free and BP is fine, literally nothing else matters. Blood lipids are fake and ghey. Just stay lean.

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>>76731282
Rent free natty, you wouldn't even bother posting if you weren't jelly.
>>76731502
His story makes no sense.

>>76728185
If you go on gear, there is a good chance you will either have to or want to stay on for life.

Why dont you train like a powerlifter as a natty - get as big and strong as you can, then decide whether you want to commit to an illegal drug lifestyle. If youre on steroids, you will need to train and sleep and eat properly or else almost nothing happens unless youre a gentic elite/outlier (which your not because ou called yoursel a dyelcel)

I feel like the more natural muscle tissue you build, the more androgen receptors you will have in the muscle to "suck up" the androgens in steroids, and you can get more from les, which also means fewer side effects. That is the physiological benefit.

>>76731502
I probably should have, shitty free lawyer said just admit it. Got a CRO but it later turned into a massive fucking nightmare for a job of mine. They acted like i was "lucky" to just get the CRO though for an importation charge.

>>76731546
I've done a few test only cycles and that's rubbish. I can have years in between. Maybe if you go multi-compound, but honestly the difference between 500mg test and natty isn't enormous.

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>>76731536
This a great post, but fuck this triggers me
>AI seems unecessary.
It's not, it perfectly fine and better to be in the normal range of estrogen. ALL of the bad side effects from gear come from elevated estrogen, especially if you're running 19 nors. So telling guys "hur dur, skip the AI bro muh genetics" is just retarded. Oily skin, dick not working right, insomnia (ESPECIALLY with Tren) all is from high estrogen. AI is good, in range estrogen is the way.
>>76731546
>a good chance you will either have to
No, you don't; I know half a dozen guys that straight up cold turkeyed and are completely fine. I'm actually glad the fear mongering around this is still the case, means ALOT of guys won't touch gear.

>>76731576
I do full blast steroid cycles. When I come off I "cruise" on 250 or 500 test per week and I keep all the size and most (not all) of the strnegth. Upper body strnegth fals off about 10%.

I always train hard and eat well, so thats necessary. But 500 is WAAAAY better than natty.

>>76731391
Why didn't you just order from a domestic lab? None of this makes sense.

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>>76731576
I think this accurate, Test is overblown by everyone.
>>76731707
Building tissue from a blast>>>>Building tissue from just Test. Maintaining and building are completely different. The rate of growth on Test is massively overblown because shit loads of it is glycogen.

>>76731746
What compounds/dosages do you think do put on a decent amount of actual contractile tissue

>>76731721
I just didn't see it was a european lab tbqh.

>>76731746
take a gram or 2 of test then tell us how it doesnt build much mass.
You zoomers fucking around with your bitch doses lifting bitch weights getting bitch results.

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>>76731749
I like Deca or Tren on a bulk. DBOL, with a bit of winstrol sprinkled on top.
>doses
Personally, I don't run more than 300 T prop, so I just stack the anabolics ontop. 500 is always good start for injectables, 50mg of dbol is plenty.
>>76731756
You so desperately want "Test is Best". I have ran a gram of test and a gram EQ, it was the worst muscle to fat ratio bulk I had. Even 500 Deca shit all over it, run better compounds faggot.

>>76731788
At the moment I'm running 725mg test, 600mg eq, 200mg tren. Just started so nothing to report yet. I've tried deca and npp before but the acne and hair shedding wasn't worth it. Test only abs test/eq cycles have been underwhelming for me. Didn't get much out of any orals either.

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>>76731536
Thanks for the effort post. With AI im probably going to do Arimidex .25mg E3D and adjust as needed. To be honest I only briefly glanced at orals because I figured for my first cycle it would be smart to have as few moving pieces as possible but maybe ill mix one in halfway through the cycle if I feel like everything is going without a hitch. Im with you on the liver stuff, I eat clean and I very rarely drink so I have no concerns of health issues there. Going to have to read up more on it either way. Cheers dude.

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>>76731801
200mg of tren ain't much. I found running high test and lower tren was a nightmare because the estrogen swings get extremely excergerated by tren. Low test, high tren seems the best; if you ain't shedding on tren i'd up it to at least 500mg; ace preferably so you can drop if you don't like the sides.
>Didn't get much out of any orals either.
Superdrol is phenomenal, winstrol is good at like 50-100mg. You can stack both, the load on the liver isn't much.

Anyone got more intel on when Primo is going to become available again? I'm stocked up for a few months but I figure I will need to switch to EQ or just blast test and take an oral AI instead.

>>76726227
>Did a reddit cycle of 250mg
>Did I do something wrong

>>76726759
No, ignore this anon. PCTing at 34 is borderline pointless. I usually would troll and laugh at you here but that's such terrible advice. Blasting and cruising over 30 makes the most sense for pretty much everyone, including those who want children.

>>76726522
Both, but symptoms are more important to follow

>>76732123
Deciding to BnC before you've even pinned once is completely retarded. Stop being a piece of shit and giving shitty meme advice. Not everyone that tries steroids decides to stick with it long term, in fact probably most don't.

>>76732143
This guy is right. B&C is gay. B&B is the way to go.

>>76731788
>it was the worst muscle to fat ratio bulk I had.

>eat too much
>get fat
>blame the drugs
every time

If you guys can’t grow on 500mg test only then you either don’t know how to eat, don’t train hard enough, or you must already be fucking massive

Someone who has everything else in their life optimized can grow on any level of testosterone above their baseline, like literally 250mg a week if everything else is perfect

There’s guys all over steroid forums taking 500 test and 1g of other compounds who look like shit and it’s because they don’t train

>>76726089
serious question, do any of you still live with your parents? if so how do you hide your gear?

>>76731788
500 test 1000 eq means your e2 must have been negative

No wonder you didn’t grow

>>76732414
How would you hide your weed or your dildo? Same answer

>inb4 dining room table

>>76732409
many people waste their first blast on "recomping" where they think they if cut back on calories and do some cardio they'll get all shredded and jacked n shit

>>76732418
What about shipping the stuff to your house anon? How would they not notice that?

>>76728829
Anon you already have terrible body acne please do not take gear until you've run a course of accutane. You will absolutely regret it. The anons replying that they don't get acne or mitigated it with daily injections almost certifiably did not have your level of acne as a natural and are completely fucking retarded for advising you to hop on.

>>76732440
Do your parents open your mail?
Send it to a friends house, but if you’re serious, if you live with your parents you’re probably too young to do steroids, and if you’re not too young but you live with them anyway… then you need to get other aspects of your life together before taking steroids.

>>76732442
I don’t even know if you’re serious or not. I don’t have acne, no one else has ever mentioned it to me, ever, and I went though my teen years without so much as a zit on my face


EOD injections and e2 control combined with personal hygiene would be enough I’m 99% sure of it, I don’t think anyone else sees the acne problem in my picture

>>76732442
That doesn't look like terrible acne to me. I got horrific acne from my early blasts, like huge, deep cysts that erupted and leaked puss everywhere all over my back, chest, shoulders, neck and even scalp. Adding EQ instead of fucking around with aromasin and adex completely fixed it.

>>76732481
Anons think your moles/freckles are acne. I fairness I did think you maybe had a couple of small spots on your chest, but they could also be just be freckles. Either way, not a big deal. I tried doxycycline and accutane when I got roid acne, the antibiotic did nothing, the accutane was starting to work slowly but the EQ fixed it almost overnight.

>>76732499
You’re right there are about 6 spots which are not freckles, but they’re not even the kind that you can squeeze , they’re literally just tiny red marks

I’m guessing acne anon is trolling

>>76732509
I don't think it's a certain you will get acne on 500mg test but it's possible. Depends on how much you aromatise and various other things. I think eod dosing is a meme desu but whatever. If you do wake up one day and feel a big deep spot under your skin then that's the start of it and you will start to accumulate them if you stay on. It took a long time for the scarring to fade where I got mine.

>>76732473
im 26 and still havent finished my retarded CS degree, so your right in your assumption desu

>>76731756
>he's too much of a pussy to pin 19-nors
>>76731966
this guy gets it

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> got pre-cycle bloods done today
> girl at the clinic kept insinuating she knew i was going to be using test
Do they really all know? Couldn't i just be checking my test?

>>76732667
She sounds fat and Mexican and or black.

>>76732674
She was white and kind of cute

>>76732631
>if you disagree with the notion that test is a weak drug, you are too scared to take deca
What is it about steroids that attract the stupidest people in the world?

>>76732267
>get better results from the same surplus on a different drug than test
Wow, retarded boomers too scared to use 19 nors. JUST UP THE TEST BRO.
>>76732416
Read nigger, I said a gram of both. I even had to use AI.
>>76732685
nta, the way you faggots defend test so vehemently makes me actually think you have very little experience lmao. Only trtfags and natties praise test so much.

>>76732710
guys that pin 2g test are too retarded to source other aas

>>76732719
They’re just larpers, probably running trt or 500 test and dont like hearing that it aint shit compared to other compounds. Aint no fucking way these guys pin 2gs of test solo lmao

>>76732920
I'll bolus pin 2-5g if i have a night out and want to look pumped

>>76732920
I never heard anyone here say they take 2 grams of test solo.
Also I know you're not a serious person because experienced roiders use what compounds worked best for them because all this shit is individual.
No experienced roider is going to act like their preferred drugs is their favorite football team and everyone else is gay.
That is strictly zoomer bitch-dose behavior.

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>>76733037
Everything works better than test, that's why it's called a BASE, only beginners use test only on a bulk, then it's a fun journey of stacking shit. You just keep exposing yourself as a nufag.

>>76733189
again, who hear every said they take grams of test alone?
You're just making shit up so you can act like you're smarter than imaginary people who you think are doing something wrong.
You dont even lift, you're that natty who spends all his time here lately arguing with people then call them "roidtanny" and runs away.

1.5 months of cutting left and I'm ready for my second cycle...

>>76733238
you aren’t following the post chain at all. Go to bed boomer, you cant even follow a simple discussion. None of your projecting will work.

>>76731120
you remind me of the guy who used to post about his swollen lymphnodes all the time

does EQ really improve cardio

>>76733037
Tren works for everyone

>>76733389
yes but tbol is better. Tbol causes alzheimers though

>>76733799
is it one of those "a rat gets 10x its own bodyweight in tbol daily for 1 year and shows minor signs of reduction in mental capabilites" kinda alzheimers?

>can't sleep
>feel like shit
>suspicious of others
>on edge
>can barely think straight
>constant brain fog
>compulsively jacking off and watching porn
>ruin my relationships with the people I love
>constantly greasy
>lose the hair on my head
>get a bunch of new hair on by back and shoulders
>get acne and scarring all over my torso
>have outbursts at work
>resting hr >100 BPM
>lose my breath if I have a long conversation
>intermittent cheat pain
>GERD
>lose my appetite
>constantly need to pee due to enlarged prostate
>sweating constantly
>looking fucking awesome

so worth it brothers

>>76729019
if i cared about something as stupid as that i'd unironically kill myself

>>76734236
I’m the guy in the pic who wants to start a cycle and I don’t give a fuck what I look like in a tshirt or to other people in general

I’ve been working out for 18 years, it’s my longest standing hobby. I just want to keep doing that into infinity, get bigger, get stronger, get the increased recovery etc

I’m doing it 100% for me

At 6’4 and 195 I’m 75 lbs heavier than my wife and a foot taller than her and she thinks I’m massive and I don’t really care what anyone else thinks of me, I’m 39 years old

For the record, I already fill my tshirts and people definitely ‘know I lift’ … my forearms are big for my frame and and veiny like I’m abusing eq and hgh

I’m not planning to ever touch any other compounds other than testosterone because I’m not planning to be 240+, I wanna sit at 220 12%

Id prob blast 500mg test once a year (4 months in the winter) and then cruise on a real actual TRT dose that put me at 600-900 for the other 8 months of the year, not interested in all the sides and side management of dht’s, 19 nors, orals etc, my goal is to be healthy and those compounds are all bad for your health, test only is the only thing where the risk/reward is right for me, and I’m pretty confident I could get to 220 12% in a few cycles and then maintain it, my diet and routine is dialled

>>76734331
Its gonna to be awhile if you wanna put on 25 pounds of actual contractile muscle tissue and not glycogen from test and GH JSYK.

>>76726089
Oh lawdy be, gibs me a varbie gf plz

>>76726540
My wife. Back the fuck off!!!?!

>>76734477
I’m a patient man
I’m ready for it , I’m even doing one more natural bulk and cut before I start

>>76734622
Its easily going to be 4 plus years, if you're not fudging your stats. Especially since your limiting yourself for no reason.

Youll most likely try a bunch of stuff, i said i would never touch 19 nors and do only primo and test when i started. It all changes, but you have 14 years on me so….

Why should i not do 20mg of anavar a day when blasting test?

>>76734673
Because 20mg is a terrible dose, and the fact you suggested it means you’re penny pinching.

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>>76734331

using test and trt just for 220 12% @ 6'4"? have you tried but failed?

here's a natty 6'3" 235 <12% bf who does heavy cardio 7 days a week and lifts 3-4 times a week (high reps but less sets) in his mid 30's. he was dope tested by usada, an olympic level anti-doping test agency.

6'4 220 is okay sized, but definitely thin thin. i met luke rockhold in person when he was walking around 220 lbs @ 6'3" and thought he was super thin and looked dyel with clothes on. should def aim for 240-250.

>>76734708
why is it terrible?

>>76734747
Nta but 20mg is an ok dose for a female

>>76734744
>here's a natty
>posts professional athlete
Lol

>>76734744
He’s 1 in a million and I’m 39 years old
I ain’t gettin there natty at this point in my life, I wasn’t as dialled in in my 20’s when I might have made it to those stats

>>76734765
so if it's low enough that there's no sides or risk, again why would i not do it?

>>76734635
Sure, i can’t predict the future or how i will feel in a few years time

I have thoroughly researched all of the common compounds for years, and I know how to research them. I’ve been drawn into the idea of all of them at some point… EQ is the only one I could see using if I could not get along with test only,

I’m 39
Like I said, not fudging any stats, and I still have a full head of hair with no recession so although I’m not obsessed with my hair… I’d like the idea of sticking to test than some of the stronger androgens - but I’m not ruling anything out,


I might be wrong, or deluded, but I believe that running 4iU year round and blasting 500 test for 16 weeks a year and not worrying about pct or fluctuating/declining test levels, I think I can reach my goals and stay there

In my younger days I was 208-210 at the same body fat% I am at now…


How have all your years of blasting affected you?

>>76734778
Well assuming you're female there is some small degree of risk of virilisation from even 20mg.

>>76734787
>I have thoroughly researched all of the common compounds for years
This means absolutely nothing.

>>76734791
Ok, well it kind of means something.

I know what they are, what they do, the common esters, how to use them all, common dosages and pairings, and most importantly the issues that people run into when using them, and largely … how to fix those problems!

What I’m not interested in is messing up my bloodwork. I’m healthy and in range for everything, I have 105/65 blood pressure, cardio ability, good liver values snd great lipids, I couldn’t live with the bloodwork that some guys end up with.

>>76734788
so why would i do more than 20 than?

>>76734798
>I know what they are, what they do, the common esters, how to use them all, common dosages and pairings, and most importantly the issues that people run into when using them, and largely … how to fix those problems!
No, you don't know any of those things, lol. You just think you do. All the crap you read on reddit will be flipped on it's head once you're using and run into your first problem.

>>76734808
To get better results obviously, but that's a personal risk/reward trade off.

>>76734812
Ok, I understand that too. Which is why my plan is to run test only, first, and possibly always and only test

What’s your point here? Are you trying to say to do steroids or not?

I’m starting with test, that’s a pretty common and well understood starting point

>>76734823
No, I think your test only plan is fine. I doubt you'll get the long term results you want from it though.

>>76734819
ok, so why would i not do 20 than if there's zero risk

>>76734835
I already told you there isn't zero risk.

>>76734846
which makes doing more than 20mg stupid

>>76734831
I appreciate that, and I’m willing to do what it takes to get there, meanwhile you have the other guy in this thread who thinks I can get to 235 naturally and that I must not even be trying right now!

Thanks tho

>>76734847
Why?

>>76734851
That guy posted an image of a professional UFC fighter and claimed he's natty. He's either trolling or underage.

>>76734847
>>76734860
You need to establish if this is a woman or a man

>>76734860
Because it's riskier
>>76734869
man

>>76734869
She said she was a woman in the first post didn't they?
>>76734875
>man
wtf? lmao why are you discussing doing 20mg of anavar if you're a man?

>>76734881
>She said she was a woman in the first post didn't they
no i didn't
>wtf? lmao why are you discussing doing 20mg of anavar if you're a man?
what's wrong with doing 20 mg?

>>76734673
The short answer is, you can.

Whether it’s worth it depends on your goals.

Are you just aiming to add more weight to the bar? Are you lean as hell already and trying to peak your physique? (Probably not if you’re blasting, you’re probably bulking and a bit fat) … could it help you get stronger? Yeah but in that case more would be better, and other compounds would be better than that… otherwise you’re just tossing it in there for what reason? It will probably negatively affect your lipids, even at that dose, and probably effect your appetite, maybe the reduction in appetite would offset any potential benefits..

Again. What’s your goal from this, what’s your start point?

>>76734887
>what's wrong with doing 20 mg?
It's a female dose that will have literally zero effect on a male lmao, I thought this was a femanon asking or I wouldn't have bothered responding to such a dumb question

>>76734888
add more weight, get bigger, get stronger, look better
>>76734898
you're saying 20mg will have zero effect?

>>76734902
>you're saying 20mg will have zero effect?
Obviously. I'm no longer engaging in this ridiculous conversation with you.

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>>76734905
what do you have to say about this than? I should just take your word for it? Well who the fuck are you

>>76734902
In that case, add more test, add more kcals and understand that you probably won’t look better until you finish the blast and cut some fat

Adding weight, getting bigger and stronger are not necessarily compatible with looking better if by better you mean lean and cut (which I presume you are otherwise you wouldn’t consider anavar)

A solid plan would be to continue blasting test, add sufficient kcals to keep growing and getting stronger, return to a lower cruise/TRT dose, begin cutting, keep lowering kcals to keep the fat coming off, and in the final 6 weeks of the cut add 50mg anavar to the TRT dose alongside the kcal deficit and end up looking sick

>>76734914
>listening to sexpat steve
lmao, by all means go ahead and listen to social media scam artists and see where it gets you

>>76734917
500mg is already "adding more test".
>if by better you mean lean and cut
not really
> final 6 weeks of the cut add 50mg anavar to the TRT dose
im sure i'll look bigger at 20mg anavar with 500 test than 50mg anavar and trt dose
>>76734921
I trust him more than you

>>76734928
I think you have your answer. You want to do it, and there’s no reason why not to, so go for it

>>76734930
Fine, if you cant tell me why i shouldn't than i guess i just will...

>>76734914
You 250mg test pussies are even afraid to take an effective dose of anavar

I ordered 35 mg of tirzepatide, which should last me 8 weeks
I hope I will stop being fat (why is it so easy to become fat? I was fine just in July, and gluttonous eating through just Aug. and Sep. turned me into a hog. WHY IS MUSCLE GROWS SO MUCH SLOWER, EVEN ON GEAR? DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE IN GOD WHO MADE YOU LIKE THAT? WHY DO I BECOME FAT ALL THE TIME?)

>>76734914
>25mg anavar is deleterious
>suggest men to take women dosage of anavar for no gains
this slavnigger baiting noobs to throw away their money on subar dosages. Top kek

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>>76734936
kek, I was the first one to reply to you and it turned into 20 replies of arguing. The other guy is fucking with you but is correct; 20mg is a terrible dose that isn't going to change much. The fact that you sidestepped my initial question means you're penny pinching and think you'll get good results from terrible doses.

You won't, buy cheaper stronger compounds. Var is decent at 50mg, great at 100mg.
>>76734921
Fuck I hate this faggot, I can't believe I almost I almost did 200 test and 20 tbol as a beginner cycle all those years ago. It's funny how these guys are soft gatekeepers, telling guys will get their dream physiques from terrible doses while they achieved their's from blasting 5 grams a week.
>>76734744
natty faggot
>>76734787
Your research won't mean shit until you start experimenting, dialing in your ai dose etc. It's better to get anecdotal answers from here than reddit or forums because they make a mountain out of a mole hill.
>In my younger days I was 208-210 at the same body fat% I am at now…
I would bet money you were fatter when you were younger, all of the older guys who are dialed in are even better in later years.
>How have all your years of blasting affected you?
Forcefeeding, sleep apnea are only the bad things and that's being in peak bulk. I ran tren for almost a year and all of my health markers bounced back immediately to the green after a month off.

Thing is I never drink, no other recreational drugs and my diet is clean as shit.
>>76734999
checked

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>>76735224
I had much bigger legs back then although they’re not visible in this potato pic from 2014, I think I was about 205 in the pic tho

>>76735320
Nta, you're not 205 natty there. I'm not sure why you're doing weird attention whoring at this point. The angle is upward so the height might be off.
>inb4 I have amazing genetics
I've heard it all before, I don't care, you're too full and too lean; or you're fudging your stats and you're shorter and lighter. You might even be larping as someone else at this point. 205 and damn near stage lean when other guys are hopping on stage maybe 5-10 pounds heavier than you and they're juiced to shit. I ain't buying any of it.

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>>76735350
Idgaf what you believe

I told you I was 208-210, for literal years, maybe 5 years

Back when I had no job, no wife and kids, rented a house, no stress, 9 hours of sleep a night and all I had to do was train and eat and to be honest I didn’t know a quarter of as much about training and eating as I do now. I’m 6’4 plus or minus 1% and I weighed 196 dry as fuck this morning

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Could roids have saved him?

The fact I even look like this at age nearly 40 is a miracle, I do have good genetics yes

You’re attention whoring lmao. Even with the way you phrase questions, you have already tried gear before.

Why people do retroactive shit to get attention is hilarious. Ive seen it before irl and in forums.

>>76735366
> Back when I had no job, no wife and kids, rented a house, no stress, 9 hours of sleep a night and all I had to do was train and eat and to be honest I didn’t know a quarter of as much about training and eating as I do now
This is word for word what influencers on gear say lmao.

>>76735403
Ok then

But 205 at 193cm is something like 23ffmi depending on what you want to say my body fat is/was … this is the literal ffmi that the Reddit crowd say that you should achieve before considering gear. Well, I’m considering gear, I’m 10 years past my prime, I have mediocre levels, and I’m ready to level up. I have no social media, I’ve posted on fit for over 10 years and this is probably the 200th time someone has questioned my height, weight or natty status… back in the day I even did a time stamped pic in a doorway with a tape to satisfy some anon

You’re not the only one to say that, and the other half of people say I’m skinny as fuck and need to eat more if I want to look like I lift in a tshirt. It’s tiring

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>>76735320
>>76735427
Then you should hop on gear and become the next fucking arnold because you're 205 shredded and somehow you got that by natty "sub par" training. Nobody stubbles onto stage lean condition at that height and weight with your own stated "sub par training", especially not naturally.

The occams razor is you're lying alot somewhere in this discussion. Either you've taken gear and want to attention whore by saying you're natty or you're fudging stats. Go attention whore somewhere else faggot lmao.
>probably the 200th time someone has questioned my height, weight or natty status
lol, yep you just sunk yourself.

>>76735480
I can assure you 6’4 guys on stage are a lot heavier and leaner than I ever was,

You seem like you might be one of the type of guys I see on sst who look like a sack of shit despite being on a gram and half of gear for 5 years.

It’s not news to me that I have great genetics, I probably have a top 1% physique accounting for all age groups, among my fellow 35-45 year old men I must be top 0.01,

I am excited as fuck to do a cycle, and from everything I’ve seen and read over the years, guys who have it all dialled in and who are only being held back by their testosterone levels always respond the best to a cycle

>>76735520
Yes this top genetics (whos totally natty) faggot is just on a mongolian basket weaving forum totally clueless about gear. Ive never seen this before. Oh wait i have, their genetics came out of a bottle.


I’ve trained guys who are 6’3 and shred down to 205, 210 and they aint natty lmao. They just arent using GH to get mass monster size. Go attention whore somewhere else.

>>76735520
Oh yea and for instance, Sam sulek stepped on stage at 215 at 6 foot. You claim natty at 205 6’4 is hilarious. Something in your story is complete bullshit, and it’s probably your stats.

>>76732710
>see myself getting fat
>continnue shoveling food into my fat face
>testosterone made me fat
every time.
But who cares because you dont even roid. you dont even lift

>>76734673
I do 20mg a day occasionally on blast or cruise/cut, it's great. I find my lipids tank much faster at 40mg a day with diminishing returns like all things obviously. I can run 20mg a day for much much longer.

>>76735591
Hypothetically if I was lying about my stats, the muscle and conditioning in the pictures is still the same

Presumably you just think I’m shorter and lighter than I’m saying, but even if that’s true, my proportions would be the same

The pics are the pics whether you think im 6’4 205 or if you think im 5’9 180-whatever

And for my own interest I’ll be blood testing again before I hop on, and dexa scanned at the end of this bulk and again after the end of my cut, and again post cycle

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If I wasn’t 6’4 I probably wouldn’t need 6 inch blocks underneath my squat my rack. Lol

Mirin my equipment?

>>76735591
You’re comparing my bmi of 25 to Sam’s of nearly 30, and he is at 5% and I’m at 10%

>>76735672
>>76735705
He’s been blasting for years, you claim natty lmao.

>>76735724
Yes , and like I said, he’s 5% I’m 10-12% and he’s 15lbs heavier than me at 4 inches shorter than me. Do you know how to do math?

Interesting here how the retards who say test doesnt build muscle are also taking bitch doses of anavar instead of something that actually works like 50mg dbol or anadrol

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Anybody had high prolactin?

Just had my pre-cycle bloods taken and prolactin was up at 470mIU. Not sure why as I'm healthy, sleeping well etc.

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>Find a video of some roided influencer talking about his supplement "stack"
>starts off normal
>Vitamin D, Creatine
>"WELL YOU SEE, IF YOU'RE GIVING YOUR LAB RAT TRENBOLONE, ONE OF THE REASONS IT'S SO BAD IS BECAUSE IT FUCKS UP YOUR SLEEP...."
>so you take 100 mg melatonin each night to knock yourself out
>"ALSO, IF YOUR LAB RAT IS ENHANCED, THERE'S ALSO A GOOD CHANCE THEY'RE GOING TO BE GETTING ACNE, WHICH IS WHY YOU TAKE ACCUTANE - ANYTHING ELSE IS A COMPLETE COPE, YOU'RE WASTING YOUR TIME"
>"BUT ACCUTANE IS SIDE EFFECT ROULETTE, SO YOU NEED TO TAKE VITAMIN B5, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE A MEGADOSE- 10 GRAMS. NOW THIS TASTES LIKE THE WITHER EFFECT IN MINECRAFT, IF I HAD TO DESCRIBE IT, IT'S TERRIBLE, JUST GET IT OVER WITH QUICK AND EASY"
>by the end of the video he has 12 different powders / pills on his table
>he takes them daily
Do you guys seriously live like this?

>>76737367
>Do you guys seriously live like this?
No, I just jab a few ml of gear twice a week and carry on with my life as normal

masteron makes me lose all motivation. does it affect anyone else this way?

>>76737367
Never taken accutane, I just inject test every 3 days and chill.

>>76737367
>100mg melatonin each night
lol. lin

>>76735373
Is he bottom or top?
Why does athleanx feature this ugly fag in his videos? I assume they're lovers

>>76736128
individual levels can vary greatly. if you don't have anorgasmia, dont worry about it. if you do, try p5p (you can find it anywhere -- amazon, gmc, walmart, etc), or pramipexole

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>>76734777

for ref, here's 42 yr old ralph lauren model and former mma fighter @ 6'3 225-230 daily weight. he does lift, but hates heavy lifting and probably does half the weight you move probably. he looked as thin as a paper to me. neeways, go get that 250+!

What oral should I add in my next cycle? It will be eq+T and I wan't an oral as well. I have experience with tbol and anavar, but maybe there's something better
My source has this: dbol, anavar, anadrol, winstrol, tbol

>>76737367
I remember a study linking very high >5g of vitamins was cancer causing. Not sure if b12 was included by vitamin c definitely was

>>76735066
if you think you are fat, 8 weeks is not remotely long enough unless youre hard fasting

>>76735480
>stage lean
lmao youve never stepped on stage or pinned

>>76738839
that much vitamin C will definitely give you kidney stones, dont be retarded

>>76737367
Creatine, omega 3, zink, boron (copper sometimes because of zink), aschwagandha, vitamin C
I mean, yeah
Not even counting gear
Accutane too (I have some ogre tier acne from steroids)

I can probably drop zink, boron and aschwagandha

>>76738828
if youre cutting, winstrol, if youre bulking theres no point in adding orals, add NPP or just up the test

>>76738844
I know myself. I've lost 20 kg of fat (and some muscle too obviously) twice in 5 months (without any drugs). If I will be able to pull out something around 10 kg this time I will be golden. I'm not that obese, but I really don't look good now
>unless youre hard fasting
2000kcal a day and regular HIIT sessions on my stationary bike will do

>>76738870
>if youre bulking theres no point in adding orals
Why is that
>add NPP
I ain't pinning three different compounds though

>>76738886
the amount of orals needed to put on muscle is not worth the liver stress versus just adding more injectable compounds, GH is also better option than adding an oral

>>76726089
Second of test, nandrolone and dbol and my chest hurts sometimes
As if a knife was being pulled inside my chest

What could cause this?

>>76738886
>pinning
Pinning is always safer than orals

>>76738828
Anadrol.

Anavar is for women

>>76738908
Second week I mean

My first cycle. Help

>>76738980
Your first cycle is deca, test, and dbol? Actual retard

>>76739012
NTA and this post is not very helpful
You're the very reason these threads are shit btw, no one wants to stay around retards like you and all good posters leave

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I need some storage for my gear. I don't like looking at the syringe, needles, and vials everywhere. If I could also store my supplements in here, that would be nice.

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>>76739133
Sounds like you need something like this

>>76726089
Anyone had any issues with tariffs and overseas packages?

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>>76739190
I have a few fabric boxes or whatever they're called at home. They look nice. I should get a few more of them so I don't have so much stuff sticking out in my room.

>>76739133
get one of those makeup fridges chicks buy

>>76739038
No these threads are shit because people are still retarded enough to throw that much shit into their first cycle despite all the info out there.

>>76739038
These threads are shit because zoomer retards hear about some magic super stack on tiktok from another retard who swears its the best thing ever.
Then when they fuck themselves up, they come here to ask stupid questions about their stupid stacks instead asking the original retard that told them to do it in the first place

>>76739402
and not mention they refuse to do the basic 500mg test babby cycle because they insist they know better than everyone else

>>76739363
>>76739402
>>76739421
You either help or shut up
Your attitude pushes away posters and makes the swole population lesser on this site
Muscular people statistically hate communists
And you prevent that
Are you dicksucking communists?

>>76739477
>help or shut up
Why? They refused all help when people told them to take 500mg test babby cycle and now we're supposed to help then fix their side effects just so they keep taking and doing the same retarded shit?
These retards are the reason steriods are illegal and they just make serious roiders look bad.

>>76738828
dbollllllll.... get them stremgfs. i keep tweaking my got money burning a hole in my pocket blast.... test eq mast hgh slin dbol, and swap out eq for tren last 10 weeks

>>76738908
well that doesnt sound goody good. only two weeks in, so maybe stop and see if it goes away.... but maybe something to do with all the wet compounds? are you hydrating adequately? getting enough salt? no underlying heart conditions? not overdoing it at the gym? you doin a lot of chest exercises multiple days a week?

>>76739190
i kek'd. varbie's dreamhouse....

>>76739497
>they just make serious roiders look bad
Only "serious" roiders make themselves look bad

>>76739526
You sound insane though

76739658
oh look its that tiresome nattytranny who spends all day every day posting in the /fraud/ thread

>>76739665
yes

>>76734744
> he was tested at the olympics so he's natty
oh lol