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Ever since I've tried out Mentzer's way of exercising (one set, high intensity) I don't really see the point to having 3-4 sets per exercise, it just feels like an addiction unless it's something like lateral raises.
What's the point of having 3-4 sets per exercise if you can do good and proper 2 sets?
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>>76732551
you're still supposed to have warm-up sets retard.
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>>76732560
yeah so what, even after warmup sets what's the point of being a retard and doing lightwork of 4 sets that won't get you anywhere but home late?
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>>76732551

for maintenance, yeah. trying to grow in strength or size, I kind of doubt it.
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>>76732561
only retards do 4 light sets instead of going to failure. Few actually go to real failure which is impossible to do without a spotter. Going to failure like mentzer did you have to do it in both negative and positive movements.
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>>76732578
Fully agree, after learning his ways I don't really see it as optimal to go to gym alone. Especially when a spotter is able to make you reach beyond failure.
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>>76732581
Safety bars, rest pause, myo reps, drop sets.
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>>76732578
>Few actually go to real failure which is impossible to do without a spotter
There's a ton of exercises and machines that you can take to failure safely. Same with eccentric overload.

Like seriously, why do people insist on doing barbell bench press when dumbbells are safer and equally or more effective. It's fine to barbell from time to time, but the bulk of your actually pressing should either be machines or dumbbells.

Even then, it's very debatable if going to failure even matters. The best thing about going to failure, In my opinion, is that it at least guarantees that you're in the 1-3RIR range which most people think they are but aren't. And that's assuming you're at least capable of even going to true failure.
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The best thing is to consider the philosophy behind Mentzer's training. That's to give yourself extreme stimulus, by engaging all your muscle fibers you can, and then giving yourself adequate rest. For a while I did 1 set each group after warmups but found that I was better able to reach failure bc I don't have spotters and coaches, by doing 2 sets to failure. The first one told me about how far I could go on the second, and the second was pushed as far as I could consciously go. And then I give myself a good few days of rest. I'm probably going to start adjusting my workout schedule to be more intuitive about this stuff, watching my cortisol during rest to see when I can actually go with my muscles sufficiently rebuilt. throwing in periodized mentality into your schedule might help. I do 2 weeks heavy and 1 week light and I'm seeing my lifts going up like a cycle, it's p nice. Moving to 2 weeks heavy 2 weeks light (lots of cardio) bc I want to lose more fat and it's looking like this is going to work like a fucking charm.
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>>76733783
>The first one told me about how far I could go on the second, and the second was pushed as far as I could consciously go.
If you push to muscular failure, you probably won't be able to do as many reps the second set, unless it's like 4 minutes later and you're good on blood sugar.
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ok
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>>76733783
You know you've pushed a set to maximum failure when the next set you can barely manage to do a couple reps before failing.

For example if you do chest press for 10 reps. the next set you can only do 4 reps.
You know your first set was highly productive. Once you get good enough at this, ideally your second set you can't even do 1 rep.

Being able to actually do that all out 10 rep set is extremely difficult tho. And you almost certainly need to be doing it on a machine otherwise you're stabilizers are just going to give out before the muscles you're targeting.
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