>you NEED carbs to see hypertrophy gains>no your body can't produce enough glucose from fatis he right?
>>76734266I don't care I don't do meme diets and never seen a living person actually eat like that seems like a waste to argue against a diet that is almost entirely hypothetical in practice.
>>76734266Only women follow meme diets. If you're a man and follow a meme diet, you're becoming a woman and should troon out.
>>76734293ask me how I can tell you're over 30
>>76734295Ok. How?
>>76734295ANSWER ME
>>76734266You can eat fruit and honey on that diet I believe, so no need to sš¬y out and make a caca poopoo crying thumbnail and no need to give yourself IBS eating industrial grade grain sludge, everyone's a winner
>>76734295He's right. Stop being gay.t. 39
>>76734266Good, I want people to think it sucks. Gatekeeping is based. It's the only way I can feel good, carbs inflame the fuck out of me 24/7. Wait I mean carbs are awesome, fucking meatschizos lol hahah amirite carb brethren
>>76734295>ask me how I can tell you're over 30Because he's not retarded?
>>76734437>carbs inflame the fuck out of meLol typical sickly weirdo meme dieter
>>76734523you never realize you're inflamed or bloated all the time until you switch offthose mood swings, tiredness, aches, they are all minor and become background noise. Until you cut out carbs and junk food, then a month later you realize they're gone.
>>76734266Until you are lean, limit your carbs to fix your metabolism and insulin response. When you become human you use carbs to fuel your body for performance if you want. Fat is perfectly fine source of energy for your body and brain and you can also get glucose from protein Its non-negotiable.
>>76734266humans evolved as herbivores. cope and seethe meatcel
Bros, I fucking love carbs so much. I'll never give them up. Carni/ketolards are degenerate faggots whose tummies get upset if they have a spoonful of rice.
>>76734266Steve Reeves ate 60-70% carbs
Never seen anyone with a six pack who eats fast carbs (pasta/rice/potatoes/corn) on the regular.
>>76734295Because heās not a massive fag like you? Huh, gay boy?
>>76734407Dayum kitty swole af
You need carbs if you're lifting regularly for the same recovery and performance reasons that you need creatine.Keto, which is what carnivore is, IS FOR DIETING.
>>76735126for sure bro what with all those scenes depicted in cave drawings that showed their extensive love for legumes and roots
>>76734295IT'S BEEN SIX HOURS AND YOU STILL HAVEN'T ANSWERED ME.MAYBE I SHOULD LEAVE.
>>76734531>cuts highly processed foods out of diet>whoa guys, I feel betteryea no shit retard, but carnivore is still retarded. maybe try whole grains or some berries next time
>>76734407Log off unc.
>>76734295Because he's on 4chan. Young people don't come here at all it's all guys from /b/ 20 years later
Just eat a balanced diet and don't over eat. It's the simplest goddamn thing.
>>76735269Almost like you can experiment and figure it out for yourself
>>76736206you can't overeat if you don't eat carbs
>>76737011so you digest food instantly then? wow anon
>>76734266>>76734266Obviously This is a widely known fact today
>>76737028what?>>76737030its not. his video is retarded and completely wrong. His entire case is based on muscle glycogen during ketosis, yet studies showing fat adapted individuals on prolonged diets have almost equal muscle glycogen to carb consumers.
>>76734397No that's paleo and not carnivore but yeah I get what you mean
>>76734266Everybody is wrong about diet.
>>76734266Yes, by every objective measure, humans evolved to eat a shitton of carbs, mostly from fruit. Fad diets that cut out an entire macronutrient category are always retarded shit for fatasses who don't have the self control to eat a healthy diet.Notice that the discussion around shit like carnivore or keto or whatever else is almost always just about how much weight people lost and nothing about real benefits for normal, healthy people. You can lose weight eating anything as long as you're not eating too much of it and a diet that makes a healthy person lose a bunch of weight that they don't need to lose is objectively an unhealthy diet.The closest you get to a positive from these diets is retards who conflate the benefit of cutting processed foods and grains out of their diets with whatever meme diet they're following. Many of them have never taken their health seriously until they started following one of these cringe politically influenced super meat-heavy diets. It's the first time in their lives that they've stopped poisoning themselves with processed slop and they don't have the experience (or intelligence) to understand cause and effect.No one on this board does any actual research. They follow around their little celebrity influencers who are, in turn, also doing no research and are just being led around by other morons. Textbook case of the blind leading the blind. Here's an example of a retard just parroting shit he heard some other retard say:>>76734663>limit your carbs to fix your metabolismIncreasing carb intake causes a corresponding increase in metabolic rate:>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/19989894_Glycogen_storage_capacity_and_de_novo_Iipogenesis_during_massive_carbohydrate_overfeeding_in_man>and insulin responseAn extremely high carb diet, even in diabetics, causes an improvement in insulin sensitivity.>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/5100724/
I said it was non-negotiable retard. >No one on this board does any actual research. And neither do you faggot. No (you) for you faggot.
>>76734266I will continue to eat as much meat as I can afford. LIterally 80% of my paycheck is just meat. My fridge is stuffed to the gills with meat. I will murder vegans in the future and eat their meat.
>>76737248>humans evolved to eat a shitton of carbs From sources such as...?>mostly from fruit Every fruit you eat has been cultivated in the past 500 years. Fruits are also seasonal, what did humans eat the other 11 months of the year?Fruitarians are mentally ill and die, fruits are nutritionally poor dogshit food for niggers
>>76737264Thank you for this post, genuinely. So here's a perfect example of the kind of person I was talking about. He has some vague understanding of human evolution and has, to the best of his ability, attempted to take his limited understanding of this topic and combine it with his limited understanding of human nutrition. It's almost guaranteed that this is mixed up with his reactionary politics - he's following a reactionary diet, after all - and the result is the sort of confused mess that forces him to rely on childish and disingenuous arguments like>you think people should eat a lot of fruit? you must be a fruitarian!It would be embarrassing if it weren't so sad.>From sources such as...?Fruits and tubers. Even chimps eat tubers.>Every fruit you eat has been cultivated in the past 500 years.I'm sure you think so but even if this were the case, what point are you trying to make? Do you think modern fruits contain magical new types of sugars that didn't exist before?>b-but modern fruits are easier to eatMeaning nothing except that we spend less time eating them. All other primates spend the bulk of their day eating which is what we would be doing as well.>Fruits are also seasonal, what did humans eat the other 11 months of the year?Humans evolved to live in tropical regions where fruit is always in season. You may intuit this by little clue like the fact that humans have no useful body hair and a naked human will very quickly freeze to death in even mild autumn temperatures. Where can a naked human live year round without freezing to death? Only the places where fruit is always in season.>b-but clothes and shelterDid we spring into existence knowing how to make these? The things you take for granted are the result of literal millions of years of accumulated knowledge. Your digestive system was fully formed long before humans ever figured out how to make clothes or shelter.
>>76734266>you NEED carbs to see hypertrophy gainsNo you don't>>76734266>your body can't produce enough glucose from fatYes it can>how could this work?Multitudes of people have shown that, assuming you have enough BF, you can build muscle on a PSMF. But you can't keep lifting the same, you need longer rest periods the entire time, and until you're fat adapted you'll need more recovery between sessions. But your body is capable of making all the glucose it NEEDS from stored fat, but that adaptation takes longer than any of these retards give it.
>>76734266>is he right?Ofc he is. And ths isn't anything enw and groundbreaking. Meatheads just love to ignore reality.
>>76737256>LIterally 80% of my paycheck is just meatSounds like you need to stop playing around on the internet and focus on getting a real job because that's fucking pathetic.
>>76737248>humans evolved to eat a shitton of carbs,LMAO no we fucking didn't. This wasn't even a widely available energy source until the advent of agriculture. Human beings absolute greatest physical feature is our endurance, this is not up for debate, ergo our oxidative system is the most developed. We're made to burn fat more than anything else.
>>76737327>Fruits and tubersGood luck getting 2000cal a day on uncultivated fruits and tubers (they're everywhere!)>Do you think modern fruits contain magical new types of sugars that didn't exist before?Yes, retard, modern fruits are gigantic compared to their natural uncultivated state>All other primatesAll other primates can digest fiber, humans can't
Carbs made me fat I will never forgive it.
>>76737338No he's not, when it comes to nutrition, most everyone is wrong. All of most recent nutritional advice is based off post- industrial agriculture diets. It's the most asinine unnatural bullshit. We're basing our most common dietary advice on the highest performance outcomes, that's not fucking normal to be consuming all the fucking time. It's why most of the world keeps getting fatter and fatter.
>>76737353>This wasn't even a widely available energy source until the advent of agriculture.see>>76737327>Fruits and tubers.Look man, I understand that this is hard for you because it goes against more than one of the concepts you've been brainwashed with but you cannot survive outside of a tropical region without advanced knowledge, you're incredibly weak compared to literally all other animals, you have no teeth, you have no claws, you have detailed color vision that is only useful for identifying fruit. Shit, do I need to go on? I'll go on.You cannot kill anything without the use of tools. You have long, delicate fingers that are perfectly suited to climbing trees and picking fruit but are worthless as weapons. Can you use those fingers to build and use weapons? Of course. Did humans (I suppose pre-human hominids at this point) spring into existence knowing how to make spears? Of course not.Consider a naked human without modern knowledge. Just another animal primate, as we were for millions of years. Doesn't know how to make clothes, how to make weapons. Where can this animal survive in the wild? What kind of food can this animal safely gather? You think you're going to tackle a deer every few days and wrestle it to death? No, you'll do what your ancient ancestors did: you'll spend most of your day gathering and eating fruit, because it's easy for you to spot and it's a safe and reliable food source. When you have the opportunity, you'll scavenge some meat from the kills left behind by actual predators. And that's what your diet should look like: mostly fruit with meat filling in the remainder, ideally organ meats and connective tissues.
>>76737365>Good luck getting 2000cal a day on uncultivated fruits and tubers (they're everywhere!)Now see, this is just flat out stupid. Nearly all primates are frugivores and they manage just fine.>An orangutan's daily caloric intake varies significantly based on factors like sex, body size, and food availability, but estimates range from around 1,800 to 3,000 calories for maintenance, with males generally needing more. During periods of high fruit availability, their intake can surge dramatically to over 10,000 calories, while during fruit-scarce times, it can drop to lower levels. >Yes, retard, modern fruits are gigantic compared to their natural uncultivated stateThat's good, that's good. Now I want you to look at the question you're responding to again. Read it closely. Did I ask you if modern fruits are larger than uncultivated fruits?
>>76737375Ancient man subsisted more on persistence hunting than they did on what you're proposing. Grazing & foraging was far less reliable than hunting. Literally nothing you're saying is backed up by fucking anything and all the traits you're listing are exactly what enabled us to hunt. Foraging was incidental to our hunting cause we would track animals and eat what they ate along the way but the lions share of our energy came from hunting. It's the only food source regular enough & plentiful enough for us to have developed the oxidative systems we did. We are not built to consistently run on carbs, it's precisely why our means of storing it is utter dogshit meanwhile our ability to process fat outpaces pretty much anything on earth.
>>76737375>humans just died and magically respawned when they had no fruit because it wasn't summer>or didn't live in the tropics>no they were too stupid to huntthank you science man
Never seen anyone with a six pack who's meals are mostly carbs.
>>76737353If you went into the woods right now and experienced starvation youd be eating berries and tubers and greens before you caught a squirrel
>>76737390and if I was part of some aztec or inuit clan I would be fishing or hunting buffalo instead
>>76737390>throw an untrained DYEL NEET without any hunting/trapping/fishing experience and gear into the forest and watch him eat berriesYeah, and?
>>76737390You're a fucking retard, watch any survival show. That's a convenience but the main priority is always a source of protein cause without a regularly significant source of that, you're fucked. It's why HUNTING was always our primary means of sourcing energy, because we need a regular source of protein way more than we need empty fucking calories. I would be looking for ANY protein over berries and tubers retard. Bugs, worms ,etc. Anything. Just like primitive humans before the use of tools would have.
>>76737392Humans were done evolving nearly a quarter million years before those niggers even existed
>>76737387Yeah yeah yeah, I get it, you read an article about the persistence hunter theory once and you took it as fact and let it inform all your future decisions about your diet. Not a great idea, but you do you. Answer me a few questions, though.>all the traits you're listing are exactly what enabled us to hunt.What did we eat before we learned to "hunt"? Why do no other primates follow this strategy? Why do fossil records of all pre-human hominids show that they had a diet very high in fruit?>Grazing & foraging was far less reliable than hunting.Sounds like someone's never gone hunting.>>76737388You seem a bit confused. Humans are tropical animals. I mean, that's it, full stop. You can look at an animal and tell pretty easily what environment it's suited for and if you look at a naked human and think>oh yeah this animal should be living in the snowthen you have a NPC-tier lack of capacity for critical thought.>no they were too stupid to huntDo I really need to explain the difference between stupidity and ignorance? You're currently giving a nice example of both, by the way.
>>76737409>I mean, that's it, full stop
>>76737390Your body can function without carbs for a long fucking time, pretty much indefinitely. It can't function without protein & fats for very long. Meat >>76737409>Why do no other primates follow this strategy?THEY DO YOU FUCKING RETARD! We're most closely related to chimps and they're omnivores who eat pretty much anything smaller than them that moves. Do you have any idea how much fucking bugs chimps eat? Ffs you're retarded.
>>76737403>Humans were done evolving nearly a quarter million years before those niggers even existedThere's something about this point that just mindbreaks midwits. It's one of those "How would you feel if you hadn't eaten breakfast this morning?" They just stare and you and go, "But I did eat breakfast".They take accumulated human knowledge for granted to the extent that they flat out can't even imagine a setting in which that knowledge didn't exist yet. For them yeah, obviously, humans hunted for food. >>76737401 That's what people in survival tv shows do, after all. How did humans eat before they learned how to hunt? Well uhhh they hunted, obviously, just like on those tv shows.Below a certain IQ people are just biologically incapable of understanding hypotheticals. Can't say I'm surprised to find so many of them on this board.
>Thank you for this post, genuinelykek lil buddy missed reddit
>>76737414Oh, he's so buckbroken that he's resorting to the zoomer memes. That's good, really impressive, big boy. I accept your concession.
Sure triggered ya'll lololol. Enjoy heart disease and colon cancer. I bet you jerk off to liver king and joe rogan. Fucks sake
>>76737419>We're most closely related to chimps and they're omnivoresHave I at any point suggested that humans aren't omnivores?
>>76737419Foods called "carbs" also contain protein and fat, enough to survive. Not enough to get buff, obviously. We evolved to eat carbs
>>76737431>cries about zoomers tooholy shit unc you need to put the pineapple and cocks down and pick up the steaks before you croakthis is no laughing matter you're running out of time
>>76737430You're about 10 years too late for the 4chan vs Reddit shit. They share about 95% of their userbase these days. Good attempt at trying to fit in though.
Gr8B8M8 IR8 8/8>seasonal foods were primitive humans main energy sourceKek>It takes so much smarts to just keep chasing an animal till it gives up vs. accurately recognizing plants/fungi/etc. over large swaths of territoryLmao
>>76737439>Foods called "carbs" also contain protein and fat, enough to surviveNothey don't actuallyThere is not a single protein source outside of animal products or heavily processed soibeans that can provide enough protein for human survivalyou eat animals, or you die. that's it.
>>76737447
>>76737447Sure but we evolved to eat carbs
>>76737447>>76737454>still desperately arguing against some fruitarian strawmanNo one in this thread is telling you to eat nothing but fruit. Carbs should be the majority of your caloric intake. They should not be all of it.
>>76737462It has only been available as our primary energy source for the last 10,000 years. On the evolutionary scale, that's fucking nothing.
Bread and porridges have always been slave food.Kings ate meat.
>>76737447>There is not a single protein source outside of animal products or heavily processed soibeans that can provide enough protein for human survival2,000 calories of guava contains 268g of carbs, 29g of fat, and 77g of protein. Keep coping though.
>>76737467No, it shouldn't. And a huge fucking clue about this should be how much creatine our bodies are able to store. The only diet that comes remotely close to naturally saturating us with creatine is one where protein & animal fats are the primary energy source.
>>76737476Kek, a single guava has between 1-1.5g of protein... But yeah, that's totally a great example. Fucking retard, you could eat s whole fucking guava tree, or two or three, and still not have enough for a day. Also, it's not a complete protein dumbass.
>>76737477Define "majority", please.
>>76737476Guava is critically low in Cystine and Phenylalanine (an essential amino acid). It is an incomplete protein. You will die if your only protein source are guavas.
>>76737484for comparison this is how many amino acids are in a single chicken thigh.
>>76737476>plant """protein"""
>>76737481>non-animal foods don't contain protein>ok maybe they do but it would take you a long time to eat them allThis is so sad to watch.
>>76737483No more than 40% carbs, all the rest should be protein & fats. So about 60%.
>>76737494You would literally need a supply of it that would only be available to you in modern time. You would be eating for half the day, then shitting for the other half. Kek. At this point you gotta be trolling or some reddit tard.
I don't understand why someone would restrict themselves to eat the most expensive and least ethical kind of food for absolutely no benefit whatsoever
>>76737494These people can only think in terms of gains and don't understand biology
>>76737484>>76737489>still desperately arguing against some fruitarian strawmanNo one in this thread is telling you to eat nothing but fruit.
>>76737506>least ethical kind of foodPussy>no benefit whatsoeverDyel
>>76737508No but the dipshit was arguing that primitive man PRIMARILY subsisted on fruits & tubers and that is 100% fucking retarded.
>>76737509ok so retardation, got it
>>76737508>>still desperately arguing against some fruitarian strawman
>>76737513Who the heck said that
>>76737506The reason you see guys reacting with so much anger and emotion in these threads is because they've tied their political identity up with their diet. Every inch of their lives are reactionary and their diet, the hyper-meat centric shit like carnivore or keto, is a reaction to vegan politics. That's why you always seem them come out with so much retarded shit when you press them to defend it.They're right wing manly men and what those men do is eat meat, lots of meat. The more meat you eat, the more manly and less leftist you become. Remember where you are. This is 4chan, the home of freaks and incels. Their entire self-worth is wrapped up in their basic bitch political beliefs and their diet is part of that, which is why you see this kind of seething >>76737509.
>>76737523>reactionaryfar right revolutionary*, actually
>>76737523They might just be retards idk about all that
>>76737519I'd love to see you explain what part of that post you interpret as telling you to eat nothing but fruit.>>76737513Yeah, that was me. I saw a lot of babies whining about that fact but I didn't see any offering any actual arguments against it. You gonna try?
>>76737519Oh shit you're just stupid
>>76737515Pussy dyel, got it.>>76737520Read the thread retard.>>76737327>>76737248>>76737375>cannot survive outside of a tropical region without advanced knowledge>evolved to eat shit tons of carbs>evolved to live in tropical regions where fruit is always in seasonOn and on with dumbass shit patently implying that primitive man primarily subsisted on plants & outrighf saying we were too weak and feeble to do much hunting at all.
>>76737528>that factNot a fact. Literally nothing you claimed is supported by any anthropological/historical records or revolutionary biology.
>>76737545*evolutionary biology
>>76734266ofc no carbs in the diet are not optimal
>>76737548Optimal according to what? The ability to even have a primarily carb diet is only 10k years old. Our bodies are quite literally not developed to run primarily on carbs day in & day out.
>>76734266wrong bot :Dyou have to stick the meat up your ass first to ferment the meat for best absorption.
Human brain is 60% saturated fat and only around 2% carbsI'll leave you with this curious fact :^)
>>76737540>implying that primitive man primarily subsisted on plantsI didn't imply anything. I have been very clear, in the same posts you just quoted, in saying that primitive man absolutely subsisted on plants.>outrighf saying we were too weak and feeble to do much hunting at allThat is correct. And I'm going to loop >>76737545 into this one since he's on the same tier of retard and I can put you both in your place at the same time. The digestive system of homo sapiens was well established prior to its arrival. Your digestive system is not significantly different from that of the hominids that preceded you. Let's take a look at a few of them, shall we?I hope we're all well familiar with Australopithecus? Probably not, considering. Australopithecus is generally considered the first point at which we see the genus homo start to emerge, so basically the oldest form of what would eventually become humans.>In 2025, a study published in Science measured nitrogen isotope ratios in fossilized teeth and determined that Australopithecus was almost entirely vegetarian. Australopithecus species are thought to have eaten mainly fruit, vegetables, and tubers, and perhaps easy-to-catch animals such as small lizards.Stone tools are roughly 3.4 million years old, while this guy showed up around 4.2 million years ago. So no tools, no hunting, no meat. Make sense?We can now jump way ahead to homo habilis at around 2.4 million years ago.>It is thought H. habilis derived meat from scavenging rather than hunting>Fruit was likely also an important dietary component, indicated by dental erosion consistent with repetitive exposure to acidity.>it is also suggested that early Homo, in a drying climate with scarcer food options, relied primarily on underground storage organs (such as tubers)So tools exist, still no complex hunting strategies, no reliable meat source, eating fruit and tubers and whatever they can scavenge. Does this sound familiar >>76737375?
>>76737589>completely ignoring the fact that the majority of their diet was protein from those scavenged, bugs, larvae, worms, etc.>ignoring that there is evidence of primates hunting without the use of tools>evidence of primates engaging in predatory behavior with ground rodents, easy prey, literally eating fucking babie birds, eggs, ground dwelling small game, etc.You're a fucking retard & 100% wrong and pretty much every leading expert on this in the fucking world says so.
>>76737602Who is "they"? Primates from what time period? Are you really STILL arguing against some fruitarian strawman? I swear, you people are genetically incapable of honest debate. No. One. In. This. Thread. Is. Telling. You. To. Eat. Nothing. But. Fruit.I expected so little from you and you still manage to disappoint. Maybe some day I'll find some intelligent discussion here but I guess today won't be it. I accept your concession.
>>76737558According to the asteny/fatigue you feel when switching to ketosis and its negative effective on your training.
>>76737389literally the oppositenever seen anyone lean who's meals are mostly fat
>>76737858Nothing fatigues me more than eating carbslop (which I still do occasionally cause I'm a weak man). I usually avoid eating carbshit at work cause it kills my energy levels.
>>76738024It sounds like your body instinctively craves carbs, but you are imposing an arbitrary mental restriction upon yourself like a slave.
>>76737558>The ability to even have a primarily carb diet is only 10k years oldWe only invented fruit 10k years ago?
>>76734266>carbs and fruits and protons have been around forever>because people eat like shit and snack way too much on awful garbage, that means carbs are badObesity is a modern problem. Just eat less, retard.
>>76739157>>76739230carbs in nature:>available only during a few select months in the summer>provide very little caloriescarbs today:>TRIPLE PROCESSED DEHULLED GLYPHOSATE SOAKED RICE IMPORTED FROM VIETNAM>400 calories / 200g, 10 pound bag is $15>ANTI MOLD ADDITIVES PRESERVATIVE FILLED PROCESSED WHITE BREAD ($2 per pound, entire loaf is 2000 calories)>SELECTIVELY BRED GMO PINEAPPLES, 5X THE FRUCTOSE CONTENT OF WILD VARIANTS>available all year roundyeah I wonder what could go wrong with eating this shit
>he thinks humans le hunted and ran 40 miles a day to kill some animalHumans live longer now, eat basic shit instead of shit like overpriced sugary cereal and junk food. Itās not that bad
I donāt do carnivore diet but if you keep eating nothing but meat you end up with an excess of purines in your blood. Also known as nucleic acids, they can form crystals and cause gout which is painful af. Unfertilized eggs and dairy are a good alternative because they donāt contain DNA.
>>76734531Its not the complex carbs but the simple ones and the ones with gluten. I can eat rice and buckwheat just fine.
>>76739301our health span is shorter despite living longer
>>76734266You didn't even watch the video that you posted. He says that gluconeogenisis from protein is too slow of a process in order to be sufficient in supplying your body with glycogen. From protein, not from fat.I think he's right. If you're going to make a post about a video, you should at least watch it first.
>>76739282You know you can make your own bread at home with flour water and salt?
>>76737617hahaha based anon exploding retards heads with science
>>76734266likely not true but your endurance will skyrocket if you just ate carbsgluconeogenesis from fats works but at the expense of inducing ketosis in other areas, which may not be favorable long term
>>76734266So is 80/10/10 Diet by Douglas Graham actually revolutionary or still a meme?
>>76737248This and your other posts are great. Honestly, don't even bother responding to the retards on here. They're cripplingly stupid and you can't make them understand anything
>>76740956is that a physique you want
>>76741183Literally looks healthier than ROIDTrannies though.My only problem is that thereās no RICE and MEAT on the Diet.Just Fruits and Vegetables and Grains
>>76738698there's no such thing as 'intinct' in human species, we learn to acquire taste as babies depending on what our parents feed you, unfortunately in the western world that often means sugary goyslop vegetables. Sugar is also chemically addictive, its a drug, would you advocate for cocaine usage because its users also 'crave it'? You're not supposed to crave food, you're supposed to eat what satiates. The reason fatties cannot stop eating is because sugary food isn't satiating, it hits you like a drug and fades.
>>76741337>MEATyeah because that retard thinks it will kill youmoron
>>76741341>Dr Shawn BakerExtremely Too Anti Carbohydrates and Heās a literal hack and MAGA-Tard
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