Realistically, how big can you get naturally? What’s the maximum size you can achieve without taking drugs or TRT? Anywhere near picrel? (not natty obviously)
>>76739983You would have a lot more bodyfat
>>76739983It depends. A young Ronnie Coleman was a freak. Are you that lucky? Probably not. Just lift weights and don't worry about it. You can't change it anyway
>>76739983You can answer this question for yourself but it'll take 2-10 years of consistent effort
>>76739983This is the largest bodybuilder before the invention of effective steroids. This is after about 70 years of testing training methods to get people as big as possible in the realm of bodybuilding and applying it to a natty bodybuilder for like a decade. Even then what I've been finding studying physiology suggests that this isn't even the true limit, but it is the biggest we have had so far confirmed for sure natty. FFMI of 28.0 btw
>>76739983>What’s the maximum size you can achieve without taking drugs or TRT?TRT is not the ultimate sizer gainer. hGH might do a bit more, but this is just all normie bullshit. Is HMB drugs even though it's found in food? How about ecdysterone that's a food steroid? I don't think there is really a good answer here, especially if you count all the deranged China plants that cause hypertrophy in C2C12 myoblast assays as drugs.
Look at greek statues, and halve what they were capable of.
>>76740831It's important that we all bring something to this conversation, however, it would be better if from now on the thing you were to bring is silence..
>>76739983will tennyson is peak natty, like 20% of genetic anomaly.
>>76741284>tfw you're a bottom 20% genetic anomalygotta try harder I guess.
>>767399835'9" 220lbs 15% bf, not maxed out, but anything beyond 15% is a loss of aesthetics.
>>76740854Greek statues are fraudmaxxingthe models would focus on flexing the parts the sculptor was working on
>>76741462They also had access to cheats (manna, a divine form of steroids + nutrition, literally fell from the sky every night).We can't compete with that.
>>76739983You can break FFMI of 25, maybe even hit 30, but your body doesn't want to have all the resource guzzling mass on it so the workload and food intake becomes absurd at a certain point I hit ffmi 30 naturally, but I just looked like Bradley martyn for a few days except I'm actually over 6' (I'm 6'4) If you want to look big AND lean all the time, you have to roid. That's the only way
>>76741276Refute a single thing I said faggot. Oh right you can't and won't
>>76739983Roidface. Why you hide face? Its shame to take roids?
>>76743661he's a famous youtuber. he doesn't hide his face, and he's proud to be a soon-to-be-pro-open bodybuilder. make a couple hundred k a year, has a medium hot gf, and about to blow up into the pro bodybuilding scene, how cool is that compared to ur life?
>>76739983>>76744631I know this guy IRL and he is engaged in the queer liberation struggle btw
>>76744631He might not have a cooler life, but at least he will get to live past 35
