>>76742448
Well, you can already tell it's garbage because the citrulline is under-dosed.

>>76742448
you're not a footballer, this isn't made for you

>>76742448
Buy an ad, faggot.

>>76742663
fuck you, not everything is an ad.
>>76742490
really? it seems consistent with my previous pre-workout

lately caffeine makes me feel like a paranoid crackhead that doesn't want anyone within arms length
probably means I should avoid pre-workouts, right?
even if they don't have caffeine i feel like they all have some kind of stim, or they're probably not worth it
wish i could find some magic energy supplement to help me lift more days per week

>>76742710
That's like saying I bought a crappy car, but the tires are as crappy as the last car. Therefore They are perfectly good tires.

>>76742739
They make plenty of good quality non-stimulant preworkouts. They're the only ones I buy. I recommend GAT Kaos. They have one with caffeine and they have one without caffeine. The one without caffeine is the one I've used. It's fantastic.

sixstar is gross don't buy that shit no matter how cheap it is

>>76742962
What do you recommend then?

>>76742971
Something other than literally the cheapest option. Let's be real. Nobody buys six star because of the quality or because they read the ingredients label and think it's good. They buy it because it's like 7 bucks.

>>76742967
>I recommend GAT
this nigga fucks

>>76742983
Based GAT appreciator

>>76742970
Never tried it. Any other suggestions? I just wanted one with relatively low caffeine (less 50-75 mg; I can take a half scoop if necessary), no creatine, beta alanine, l citrulline. I used to use Shatter Pre-workout, but they keep getting discontinued. Taste doesn't bother me

>>76742967
>>76742983
>>76742986
thanks, nigs
ill check it out
mind if i ask, what exactly it does for you, personally?
energy/starting the routine is really my only issue at the moment

>>76742993
Non-stimulant pre-workouts obviously aren't for energy, but they do help you lift heavier for longer, so endurance and strength.