>>76743127
heard a few people mention that this stuff (somehow) suppresses symptoms of autism. Any truth to that?

>>76743132
i dont talk to people so i can't really tell but maybe it helps with compulsive shit like adhd/ocd

what the fuck is NAC

>>76743132
it raises glutathione production, while would relieve some of the symptoms.

what they don't tell you is most people are glycine deficient already due to modern eating.
so when you take NAC you have to take the lowest dosage and supplement collagen (or glycine specifically) else it causes more schizo symptoms.
It will also devastate your joint health if you don't supplement glycine.

I take it sparingly, when I got like mucus or an ear problem, because it helps a lot with biofilm removal in the body.
I wouldn't take it for ADHD symptoms.
it's more of a tradeoff for other symptoms than a management of symptoms.

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>>76743352
it causes more schizo symptoms
uhhhhh........... i think i've noticed

>>76743358
Not exaggerating.

Glycine is absurdly important.
It's used for sleep, memory, some mood balancing, and like 9/10 of your organs require it daily.
So it's pretty fucked everyone was pushing NAC during COVID without telling everyone the complete story.
The levels of cysteine raised by taking one pill of NAC were absurdly high even at 10% bioavailability. They didn't know that it also forces the bonding with glycine.

Some of the symptoms of (((long covid))) were just symptoms of low glycine levels.

>>76743369
AIslop disagrees, do you have any studies?
I remember one study that showed that mice with high cortisol that were administered NAC had insanely swollen organs so i stopped taking it but i thought maybe i should try it again and it kind of helps me focus in a way but i generally feel depressed after nootropics in particular noopept

>>76743358
>>76743369
Reference
1kmg nac * 0.10 bioavailability == 100mg nac absorbed
daily maintenance of glycine from normal food less than 2g (we need about 3 to thrive).
So not only are you already deficient, but taking large NAC dosages lowers it to 1.9g average intake per person.
after ten days you've just lost half a days glycine intake.

which is why people who take NAC show progressively worst symptoms the longer they are on it.

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>>76743385
where is this wrong? can you link me an article so i can read up on it?

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>>76743382
No it doesn't.
If you're going to ask jeet ai. the question is as important as the answer.

don't quote AI to me unless you've actually asked it the direct answer to what we are discussing.

>>76743388
more like can you cite the studies, because that sounds entirely made up.

>>76743392
buddy that's copilot which is just the GPT-4 but higher tier
>>76743392
can't i just take glycine then?

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>>76743400
Stop using AI and actually search for the studies yourself.
All of these JEET chat systems are riddled with contradictory information that can easily be misread depending on how the question is asked.
I can tell you're a younger dude, not talking shit, but syntax matters.
If I can disprove your AIs entire argument, by slightly changing syntax. Your AI is not worth reading from.

This study proved that even with moderate increase to glycine, taking NAC daily still lowered total glycine blood quantities.
as they state
>significantly lowered

>>76743127
Fwiw asked a literal god if I should take it and they said no.

>>76743425
i'm not arguing with you dipshit i just asked you nicely to back your claims with some evidence if i took LLM for an oracle i wouldnt be asking you dumbass would i
>I can tell you're a younger dude, not talking shit, but syntax matters.
i've used GPT-2 in like 2019 i know how this shit works, not to mention cleverbot like 10 years ago but i'm not sure about how it worked internally

>>76743358
You niggerd keep getting fucked in the ass by supplements because you take retarded doses. Most niggers on /fit/ take 10mg of boron when the MAXIMUM recommended dosage for an adult male is 5mg, i take 3mg because my capsules come that way and i got good results (above 5mg boron becomes really toxic). I find it curious that the bottle on OPs pic says 1000mg, i assume thats per pill, and i bet my balls you niggers are doing 2 or 3gr. I looked at an antioxidant mix at the nutrition store and it had like 250mg of NAC plus glutatione, so, how the fuck are you niggers getting 1gr PER pill and expecting not to get fucked up.

>>76743442
I get you're frustrated kid, but the reality is you don't know how to do research.
You listen to Jeetchat AIs and lack understanding on how to actually read through the information.

You didn't even ask your jeetchat to provide citations so it can be peer reviewed.
>b-but muh earlier jeetchat
once again if you don't understand how to research a subject, jeetchats are completely useless for you.
Because you're just reading a script, like a parrot.

Your anger will dwindle and you'll have to learn to cope little dude.

>>76743127
Take glycine with it

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Take it with glycine.
Depending on the age doses can/need to be much higher than mentioned in this thread.
It is much better to supplement glynac than glutathione.

>>76744002
>>76744232
Glynac is GOATED. Bonus points if you get glycine from gellatin and organ meats for even more bioavailability

>>76743339
idk

>>76743339
a drug developed to save your liver from acetominophen overdose by flooding your body with glutathione.
Its also sold as a supplement because glutathione is a powerful antioxidant and supresses inflammation

>>76743992
about as retarded as claiming that i listen to search engines get your head checked and stop stroking your ego you massive faggot if i weren't lazy i'd have googled it myself but you conveniently delivered me what i needed

What's the glycine to NAC ratio?

>>76744628
You can be upset and you can be wrong.
That is your choice little dude.

>>76744232
>Take it with glycine.
How much of the results are from NAC? Already take glycine.

>>76743132
No, you didn't. You saw that thread that was up yesterday and you actually believed in what people were saying. 4Chan pill shills making things up isnt "people"

>>76744633
Rephrase to
>how little NAC do I need to take to get a benefit
Barely any, they sell it often at 1k+ mg and it's a total waste of time. Flooding your body with 100mg of NAC after it's absorbed is shit for health.
Buy the 500mg if you can and split it into two dosages.
Standard collagen serving should be more than enough. Which is like 1-3g of glycine.
Bonus that it gives you all the other amino acids also for joint benefits.

>>76744658
>Flooding your body with 100mg of NAC after it's absorbed is shit for health.
You have a source on that?

>>76744677
The fact that abundant flooding of the human body with any single amino acid in a very short time frame is usually a horrible idea because of competing rates for absorption, transportation, utilization, and the fact that NAC actually does have side effects.

Such as the one where NAC promoted tumor cell growth, specifically in the lungs and membranes of the airway where it concentrates.
The tumors use NAC to fight against your own bodies defenses since it lessens free radical damage to the cancer cell.
Dosages of NAC are always best utilized in short cycles where it gets the most benefit.

Namely because healthy glutathione levels throughout the day allow the body to not utilize its antioxidants in excess at later times.
Such as melatonin being used to fight free radical damage when it's suppose to be used to put you to sleep.
NAC has also been proven to concentrate in the knees specifically, increasing osteoarthritis by *4 in the "young age group" as the study calls them.
Because NAC acts as an antioxidant, it's detrimental in large dosages as the joints require inflammation to function.
Without inflammation the joints will begin to rub together.
This is independent of the low glycine pipeline.

Google the shit yourself, I just gave you the information needed. If you're that fucking AI tranny i'll tell you to fuck off.

>>76743442
>gets blown out by some anon telling him that AI hallucinates and often miscites, misquotes and misdirects depending on how you worded the question to the chatbot
>"NO BRO IM A CHATGPT EXPERT I BEEN USING IT SINCE IT WAS A BABY BACK IN 2019"

I mean good for you but if you cant accept that the anon is right then it doesnt matter how long you been using it. In fact it makes you look stupider to say youve been using a chatbot for years but dont understand how its wrong like half the time

I can get two conflicting answers if I slightly change the tone of a question to chatgpt. Its garbage

>>76744651
Only way to know is do metaresearch or another study with different test groups, but with high probability one can say that if you are glutathione deficient (old) you need both of them.

>>76744651
Go chceck study on old adults, it is mentioned there and then guesstimate (or get tested and count) because such high doses were given to 70y+ olds who were found glutathione deficient.
Sub 40yo probably doesnt need to supplement more than one 500mg pill with 1g of glycine if its just about glutathione syntesis, question is that if your body needs more for workout, recovery, other needs and how much you get with your food.

>>76744703
The amounts supplement manufacturers recommend (500-1000mg) are very low to "flood" human body and for older people like in the study high doses proved beneficial without any adverse effects.

>>76744703
I didn't read your post because I didn't see any sources or links. I'll just take that as a no.

>>76743970
Boron utl us 20 mg

>>76744727
those aren't conflicting dipshit you're pretty low iq, i never claimed AI was right get your head checked you immense faggot, probably your anus too because you're quite butthurt or samefagging

>all this glycine talk
Don’t you niggers eat red meat?

>>76745591
no actually

>>76745034
Okay so enjoy your old man knees at 25, citation was provided. You made the choice not to look into it.

>>76744821
NAC isn't very low though. That's literally the point.
Cystine begins breaking down pretty quickly in the human body, having too much Cystine in the body isn't good for it.
Just like having any other amino acid in the body in abundance isn't good for it (glycine fatigue, glutamate neurological depression, direct citations).
NAC is more stable and stays in the body longer. Which is why you take it.
So lower dosages at more regular rates is the best way to use it. 250*2daily==50mg total absorbed.
An incredibly safe dosage used for the purposes of supplementation and only supplementation.

I think people forget that we want Glutathione at regular small dosages throughout the day because it protects our other antioxidants from being used for specialized task and not generalized oxidation.
People with low glutathione also have low vitamin C, vitamin E, melatonin, i'm forgetting another one, but basically these can't do their jobs without glutathione and that's one of the reasons we age.

>>76745938
consession accepted. Next time, don't make claims you can't back up and you won't be challenged.

>>76745591
>red meat
100g is only 1.5g of glycine with .5 difference on cut.
Chicken skin is 3g (averaged) per 100g, but some faggot said they were eating that much daily and we calculated the amount to him eating 13 chicken drumsticks daily so he was full of shit.
Bone broth wins out at lowest calorie amount for highest glycine count serving 40calories==3.5g glycine.

Red meat is a notoriously low glycine amount unless you're eating meats specifically butchered for stews.

>>76745948
you'll have to stay mad kid.

>>76743127
Well I take it with 10mg melatonin and 500mg phenibut once a week on Sunday and I get a real good refreshing sleep

>>76743132
>suppresses symptoms of autism
How can you suppress symptoms of something that doesn't exist?

>>76745957
Touché. Red meat and pork are “high” in glycine for foods. Didn’t realize how relative “high” was.

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>>76746002
That's the whole idea of the 36% collagen diet.
>tldr
>cheapest and most efficient way to hit true macro ratio is supplementing collagen
>"bulking" means ingesting excess amino acids the body cannot utilitze in 24 hour cycle

you should check it out
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6566836/
Has a shitton of reference citations for it also at the bottom.
If you want to be lean and strong, gotta micromanage.
Just ingest collagen at 36% of your protein ratio, buy peptides when they are on sale to avoid overpaying, eat more stews/soups with broth/bone sources played in, gelatins added to yogurts/cottage cheese or just add it to water and down that shit.
Basically cut down your spending by multiple dollars daily.

>>76746028
>>76746002
upon reading it again I will add context to one thing.
They still refuse to consider Glycine an essential amino acid, but there is currently a huge push in the health community by anyone worth their education that it has increasing conditional essential needs.
>activity
>high stress
>low sleep
>digestive issues
etc.
When they say non-essential they mean someone who is just existing, sitting daily.
With each activity done, it actually goes from being essential, to being the most limited amino acid in the human body since it has the highest demand to the muscular-skeletal system and all major organs.

>>76743352
explain why it shouldnt be taken for ADHD symptoms anon i haveADHD and was really considering it

>>76745938
As I understand it, if person is young and healthy, he doesnt even need to supplement glynac and if person is old and/or unhealthy, he needs to supplement it much more than 500-1000mg to get to young adult levels since much more glutathion is used by body.

"These data suggest that healthy older adults with GSH-T levels that are similar to those of young adults may not utilize intra-cellular GlyNAC to generate additional GSH-T, while a subset of subjects with higher glutathione demand may be responding."
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9261343/

>>76746110
Because of what some of the other anons have posted and my own experience.
It has some benefit and if you want to experiment with it sure. Like I even posted
>relieves some symptoms
Namely with OCD.
If you have severe ADHD symptoms, you'll have to take large dosages and they tend to bring out the more schizo results.

One anon said his current meta was off cycling every weekend 5 days on 2 days off.
I can't remember his reasoning for it, but he was posting different citations for how many days it takes to deplete various brain neurotransmitters that interact with NAC and Glutathione.
Go easy if you wish to try it.

>>76746129
thanks anon I will do my due diligence before trying it, desu i would be willing to try anything to reduce the effects of adhd but i definitely dont want to fuck my body up

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>>76746121
You're not wrong, like a teenager has no reason to supplement nearly anything with a moderated diet and activity.

What you're looking for is the age group where that stops being a thing (25-28?) the first major decline in the human condition.
Since damage to the body is accumulative, if we can actually pinpoint the exact age where the body begins said accumulation.
We have better data for how to fight nearly all causes of natural death.

Being able to reduce free radical damage would increase efficiency to the liver, kidneys, cardiovascular system, brain, lungs. Which staves off their decline, which ultimately reaches the apex somewhere in your 60s/70s where inefficiency due to damage rapidly ages you to eventual singularity of death.

From what I understand from current meta is that humans rapidly age afterwords stabilize and stay that way for years or decades even. Repeat process.
Each step correlates with a year or phase of adulthood.
Sorry I gotta get going to my physical therapy job brother I don't got time to citation hunt right now. Wish I did.

If you can dig up anything correlating/arguing against my point would appreciate it.
i'll check in tonight.

>>76746028
>>76746097
Thanks anon. I did not know any of this and it’s quite enlightening.

>>76746028
One question, do you have a recommend collagen supplement you use?
>Basically cut down your spending by multiple dollars daily.
Not super related but my food costs are super low already. I autistically track and prepare meals and most are cheap as shit.

>>76745966
>10mg melatonin
>once a week
So how many months is it going to take you to build tolerance?

>>76745957
>Bone Broth
You can buy pork rinds, for superior macros

>>76743127

I take 2 grams of this before my alcohol binges so the blow to my liver is lessened
>just drink less bro
No

>>76746028
Where can I even order peptides as a eurocuck? Amerimutts have it so easy man

>>76746314
>Where can I even order peptides as a eurocuck?
Allegro?
Oh wait, you don't live in Poland? Lmao

>>76743358
i've heard and experienced the exact opposite. it is literally prescrIbed to people to treat schizophrenia

>>76746314
Hydrolyzed collagen IS peptides. And is cheap as fuck if you buy online and not prohibitively expensive when bought in pharmacy.

>>76743385
>glycine from normal food less than 2g (we need about 3 to thrive)
I mean like everybody here I eat meat, dairy, and some beans. Can you really be deficient in glycine? I supplement it, but I think Im not gonna buy more of that

>>76746323
>Allegro
basado, my first go to place for ordering drugs from strangers

>>76743132
NAC helps remove heavy metals from your body, and autism is supposedly caused by too much lead and cadmium in the body.

>>76746323
Dude, you're low-tier slavtards only a bit above serbs and macedonians. You've got nothing to be lmaoing about kurva

>>76746245
yw

>>76746262
Oh I mean it's not like one is super better than another.
Just buy a reputable brand you enjoy, watch out for china farmed shit.
Certain marine collagen has less metal toxicity, but slightly higher mercury check consumer reports.
Just don't break bank. When they are on sell, they are easily the most affordable way to get collagen. When not on sale, they are market price, which is more than butcher bones for broth/stew. less expensive than protein powder for sure though.
You want to talk about a scam, protein powder is the scam.
You fucking eat protein all day through meals, the fuck do you need more? collagen proteins are easily the only thing you'd be missing.

>>76746303
depends on the meal, efficiently through meal composition > anything else.
I worked as a butcher for years, plenty of options.
Don't use pork for beef stews, like you wouldn't use beef for chicken stews unless you're experimenting.
They do taste different.

>>76746314
Anywhere bro, it's not regulated by any real amount.

>>76746684
Posted citations via 36% collagen diet in thread.
Yes you can, because meat protein =/= collagen protein.

In reality you have
ProteinMeat/ProteinCollagen/Carb/Fat as your macros.
The greatest reason people feel the need to excessively drink protein shakes or (((bulk))) is because their macro ratio is fucked and they have to keep bumping ProteinMeat.
Following the 36% diet, you just have to allocate your intake to your goal body mass.
Since the ratio is more efficient, bulking is unnecessary. Muscle, tendon, ligament will all be able to grow at a steady rate.
The largest down time for working out is tendon injury, followed by inefficiency through bulk cycles.

Having a good diet meats never needing to bulk or cut (unless summer time bod baby) and since you've reduced the greatest injury correlation. You can work out that much longer before fatigue/injury.
Anyone LARPing otherwise has never lifted enough to have their opinion matter.

>>76746684
>>76746983
cont-
Because any seasoned lifter knows the feeling of their first tendon injury. Knows the chronic pain that comes from years of dedicated lifting.
And wishes they could go back and change something, anything to not have it happen.

For me it was my forearm leading into trigger finger symptoms.
8 years later, never healed perfectly, but it did heal. I was basically unable to lift at goal because my grip lost almost 30% strength for almost two years.

>>76746983
> ou want to talk about a scam, protein powder is the scam.
You fucking eat protein all day through meals, the fuck do you need mor
Some people here lift weights and need 150+g of protons a day and they dont want to eat 6 lbs of chicken breast to hit that metric

Based glycine shill thread. I've been telling people to get on glycine for years, cheap as hell and gets the job(s) done. I get 7g a day minimum, usually more like 9. Didn't even need to supplement today, crushed some pulled pork and gelatin.

>>76747494
what does it do

>>76747502
Biggest thing is collagen. It's the rate limiting amino for collagen, which is everywhere in your body. Especially noticeable if you have joint pain or poor skin quality.
It's a cofactor for NMDA receptors, makes it a natural complement to take with magnesium. This regulates your excitatory neural system.
As already mentioned ITT, glycine is a glutathione precursor. Glutathione, like collagen, is everywhere. It's your primary antioxidant.
Also, it's sweet and goes great in chamomile tea.

Can I just buy some animal gelatin powder straight up? Do they do some weird shit to it that removes the benefit?
Is that enough to counteract the whatever detriments of NAC?

>>76746313
absolutely works btw I've 1/4th the hangovers I used to. also throw in turmeric capsules in there too dunno if that does much

>>76748064
Yes. No.
Depends how much you eat, how much your body needs glutathione and how much you supplement NAC.

>>76747446
It is not a scam but looks like we are learning that is more about specific aa profiles than just "protein." I feel like it will be similar healthy and unhealthy fats.

Just read this whole thread and now I want to go back in time and strangle myself. I had been supplementing NAC 500-600mg daily for ~3 years when I had a traumatic cartilage injury in my knee while sprinting down my street without any significant mechanism of injury, I went to sleep that night and woke up with a ballooned up knee. It was a total freak accident and my surgeon was treating me with incredulity over my story. That I could've sustained an injury to the degree that I did without a significant mechanism just doesn't happen. It was a grade IV defect so I gouged a chunk of my patellar cartilage and took some bone with it. This is the area with the thickest layer of cartilage in the entire human body too.

TLDR took NAC daily for 3+ years and permanently ruined my knee at 30 on a sprint down my street.

>>76748119
I wasn't thinking using much, just a test

>>76744628
i am sorry anon but you're most definitely NGMI

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>>76743432
>Fwiw asked a literal god if I should take it and they said no.

>>76748140
>TLDR took NAC daily for 3+ years and permanently ruined my knee at 30 on a sprint down my street.

Captcha AA0M8

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>>76747446
>Some people here lift weights and need 150+g of protons a day and they dont want to eat 6 lbs of chicken breast to hit that metric

You're full of shit and you're obese.
I weigh 205lbs and have weighed 205lbs for around ten years.
at 14% body fat that is 176lbs lean mass.
at .5g/lb of maintenance that is like 88grams of fucking protein daily.
I am in better shape than you and I am assuredly stronger.
Yet you're eating double my protein intake.
Huh wonder why that is fat boy.
Maybe it's because you've got shit for tendon strength eating a suboptimal diet dipshit.

I can't believe this kid actually fell for the 1+g/lb protein meme.

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Is candied gelatin addictive because of the gelatin, or because of the mix of sugar syrups?

>>76749858
foods that hit macro/micro deficiencies are addictive because they produce results that please the body.

Like how women love dark chocolate on their periods.
Single serving has 3mg of iron which is comparable to a steak(6mg) calorie vs calorie.

>>76749873
>women love dark chocolate on their periods.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceiling_effect_(statistics)

>>76749881
logical fallacy.
Iron is a neurotransmitter, as early as 30 minutes after ingesting it, it can be circulating into the blood stream.
The process of a woman starting her period actually begins the week before her period starts, when her body temperature begins to raise. During this time the body is already producing excess blood, cells, etc that utilize a large portion of Iron.
So by the time the expelling stage of the period hits, a woman's iron levels will almost always be low.

So no, ceiling effect does not apply here.
As the average woman is stupid enough to not uptake iron the days before her bleeding starts and would indeed almost always be deficient.
If you have ever dated, talked to, or been around a woman you would know they are this retarded.
In fact it's one of the largest reasons they have unstable moods during this period.
Since Iron is required both for neurotransmitting synthesis+metabolism.

So when a woman feels better 30 minutes after ingesting chocolate, it's literal.
The fallacy is that she benefits the chocolate specifically, not the iron in the chocolate.
However the chocolate does have iron, and therefore is still a benefit.
if you're going to try and pull this shit, do the full research first.

>>76749901
I'm tlaking about women liking chocolate you imbecilic hypernerd. They like chocolate on their period and every other damn day.

>>76749906
And women are often iron deficient.
and women often eat less meat than a man does.
you still used ceiling effect incorrectly.

>>76749916
>you still used ceiling effect incorrectly.
Simply didn't. If affection for chocolate is 10/10 every day, that's a ceiling effect.

>>76749881
>>76749906
Good anon, now apply the argument, and see if you can get there.

Anon's argument is that women get a slight iron deficiency, and if the diet lacks enough foods fortified in iron, leading to a craving. Even more so since its not like protein where it takes ages to digest and use them, but quite fast. And its not like something like B7 either, which takes weeks of supplementation to fix.
This in turn do not lead to liking dark chocolate, but it leads to a selected preference A selected condition, its a lot like if you have a pool in your community growing up, you might really enjoy bathing or swimming or diving.

Go on anon, put in the legwork and at the least make a plausible argument.
This isn't reddit, you don't get +1 upboats for virtue signaling lmao

>>76749952
>leading to a craving
women *clap* like *clap* chocolate. Pick something they don't normally like, like doing the dishes.

>>76749960
Men and children like chocolate you dimwit.
Kids generally don't like dark.

>>76749965
>Men and children like chocolate you dimwit.
Saying people like chocolate isn't as funny as women.
>Kids generally don't like dark.
>has extensive knowledge of what candy kids like

>>76749981
>has extensive knowledge of what candy kids like
Image being such a butthutr poser, that you can't retrospect your own liffe or the life of your close relatives.
All this to quote a post and "nuh uh" and link to a Wikipedia page

>>76750030
At least I'm not trying to prove I'm as smart as an American by not getting jokes and being incorrect.

>>76748064
Here you have to buy it from the Asian stores, as the supermarkets only sell extremely overpriced gelatin sheets. If you get allegro/amazon access, then most likely you can source it even cheaper.
>weird shit
No, but you need to figure out how you are going to eat it, if you don't just take it as a spoon. It compliments a lot of the supermarket stock really nice, and it also compliments tomato sauce really nice
I am not sold on aspic, but that is one way to do it.

>>76744628
embarassing

>>76744628
lol

>>76749928
No it isn't.
Ceiling effect is when the absolute maximum is applied constantly, not allowing for a measurable account.

You can measure iron levels.

>>76744628
shameful display

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>>76750550
>No it isn't.
>Ceiling effect is when the absolute maximum is applied constantly, not allowing for a measurable account.
It's about desire for chocolate. The joke is that women are always at maximum desire for chocolate, which is also true. Retards.

just bought some nac+glycine because of this thread
if i dont notice anything different im gonna be pissed

>>76750746
keep us updated
personally i'm already taking magnesium and vitamin d, so while this thread seems interesting i'm not sure if i want to become one of "those" people who take a shitton of supplements and the like

>>76750787
kek I take a multi, some dht suppressing herb, and fish oil
this thread makes me want to go down the rabbit hole

>>76750133
>>76749960
>>76749928
>>76749906
Holy embarassing seethe bro why'd you even post anything? The thread was better before your wikipedia link and cringe reddit logical fallacy
>actually I just learned about this in Internet 101
nobody asked

>>76750674
>y-you just dont get my joke
I dont recall asking

>>76743127
Take it once a week, last thing you ingest before a 20-hour fast, or more. Thank me later.

>>76752293
elaborate

>>76750787
So I took glycine last night, NAC hasn't arrived because amazon is being gay
I got great sleep and my allergies are literally just gone. I almost always wake up a bit snotty but now my nose is clear
I do feel a little bit nauseous but could be because I'm fasting and consuming nicotine the morning after
if this thread is still up I'll report on the NAC

>>76751878
>some dht suppressing herb
which one is that?

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Im bipolar with anxiety and some OCD

Should I try NAC?

>>76752289
>>76752291
I wish your third world country invented its own internet, but of course that's absurd.

>>76750674
That's not ceiling effect.

>>76752782
>That's not ceiling effect.
You probably don't have a ceiling, maybe that's the problem.

>>76752760
nice, thanks anon

>>76752788
"Ok"

>>76743127
>for older people like in the study high doses proved beneficial without any adverse effects
That is my experience. I'm an older man and have been taking Glynac (glycine and NAC taken together in equal amounts of 10g of each per day, divided into two doses: one in the morning and one in the evening) for a few months now. The study I read gave a formula to calculate the amount by body weight) that I (slightly) rounded up to get 10g of each per day. I have no problems such as described in this thread: joints, airways and sleep are all good - but they always were anyway - perhaps because, in the case of my joints, because of the omega-3 and collagen that I also take. My reason for taking Glynac is anti-aging: It is known that many age-related conditions are the result of inflammation caused by reactive oxygen species (ROSs) and glutathione acts to mop up ROSs. I can't really say at this early stage whether I've experienced any improvement of health due to Glynac, but as I said above my baseline is already quite good.

>>76752777
>Im bipolar with anxiety and some OCD
>Should I try NAC?
No, unless you have seen scientific evidence that it will benefit those conditions. As I stated in >>76752981 my usage of Glynac (not NAC alone) is inspired by a study of older people that raised their glutathione level to a near-youthful level.

>>76752981
do you take nac on an empty stomach? doesnt all that glycine make you tired if you take it earlier in the day?

>>76753066
>do you take nac on an empty stomach? doesnt all that glycine make you tired if you take it earlier in the day?
No, I drink it dissolved (along with the glycine) in a large mug or two of diet fruit punch. NAC powder is almost impossible to take on an empty stomach. It has a foul, sulphurous taste and smell and irritates the stomach. Indeed, the first days I found that I had a burning sensation while urinating, but that went away. No amount of glycine makes me sleepy (which is distinct from being "tired," btw) if I have had sufficient sleep, and, before I ever started taking glycine, if I have gone without sufficient sleep then I might need to have a nap during the day. Sleep is regulated by a go-to-sleep hormone and a wake-up hormone - when sleeping you "use up" the accumulated sleep hormone. If you have not had enough sleep then that sleep hormone is still circulating in your bloodstream and will catch up with you later when you have to nap.

>>76753193
lol i took some glycine at noon thinking this post was legit but now im in laying in bed with my eyes wide open
so what you wrote was psuedo science rubbish, and the real reason is you have a tolerance and/or we react differently to it

>>76753834
eyes half open*