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When did you realize natty lifting was not worth it?
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Most of these are cringe, but Pewdiepie looks good. However, he's an adult who calls himself Pewdiepie, so...
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Some of these guys aren’t even natty. They have tattoos.
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>>76743666
All of them look like good healthy athletic dudes except Candito. You just have social media brain rot
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>>76743666
That was their peak, they all look worse now.
>natty lifting not even once
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>>76743666
>When did you realize natty lifting was not worth it?
none of these shmucks are natty bot :D
>>76743795
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>>76743675
It's actually kinda crazy Pewdiepie is the best looking one of them.
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This is pretty much what happens when natties follow roider brosplits.
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>>76743666
Being a natty is getting a life sentence of no gains and getting more time for good behavior.
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>>76743666
These are good physiques
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>>76743666
You’re a genetic loser. Worthless maggot. Roid tranny subhuman.
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>>76743666
The middle three are probably in better shape than 80% of men.
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Guy in the middle mogs all
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>>76743666
95% of heterosexual females prefer center to any bodybuilder.
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>>76743666
When did you realize that getting roided out so that other men could salivate on you was not worth it?
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>>76743666
I once took an insane picture and realized you didn't need more, since then I've approached fitness like I unlocked the sandbox mode. I finished the game.
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when I realized my upbringing/diet set me up for failure as an adult.
Took the first fully developed frontal lobe this bloodline has seen in a generation or two to fully manifest a healthy enough lifestyle.
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>>76743666
Middle three look better than all roidtrannies albeit
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>>76743666
natty, 3 years of lifting, won IFBB pro card and will be competing at this year's Ben Weider's natty pro show. has even better conditioning than half of men's physique roided pros.

none of the guys u mentioned is capable of competing and winning a NPC show is like adream within a dream for those guys. if you anna study natties at least look for natties who are competent
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>>76743666
When I thought about it and realised that three years in any other hobby would yield vastly better returns than maxing out my FFMI, assuming I literally do everything right with training and diet and have no life, in natty weight training.

Fuck that, I took test and halved the time without making my life a miserable hell.
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>>76743864
because you're gynocentrically judging their faces instead of the actual physiques. Allan is the best here
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>>76744915
This guy may be natty but he has BBC genetics. Average white dude would need 500mg of test to look like this even with training and nutrition dialled in
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>>76743757
Well yeah, they're starting to age out. Markiplier is 36 now. You're not going to maintain your youth forever
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>>76745025
That's Natural Hypertrophy not Markiplier.
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>>76744014
Try 99%. No exaggeration
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more like
>When did you realize roiding was not worth it?
The thing with roiding is it is a life long sentence. here's what 3 months without gear does to the average /fraud/ster.
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>>76743864
angle frauding + light frauding. if he was standing without flexxing in the same pose and lighting as top left he would look the smallest of all of them
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>>76745045
so what? you get big, you fuck the top bitches and then off yourself. who wants to get old ffs
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>>76745045
>The thing with roiding is it is a life long sentence

Uhhh no, you cycle once or twice to reach your genetic potential then get off gear and maintain, which requires discipline whether or not you're enhanced.
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>>76743666
mogs me desu
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>>76745102
ah yes this must be why the archetypical "former roider who is now living their best, healthy live while preserving their gains" is so common. LOL
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>>76745102
If you had discipline, you wouldn't need to roid in the first place.
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Helps when your not pastier than a milk bottle using a 10 year old camera phone. Hence why Pewdiepie doesn't look bad.

You roid all you like OP but its only going to attract other roid trannies and gay men which frankly given this thread is probably what your into so yea.
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>>76745270
Reminds me of the Rock. Suspect he's damaged his kidneys.
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>>76744915
thats not natty
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Alan Thrall would mostly looks good, his neck is just too long.
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>>76743666
Probably at 10 years. I'm 14 years in now. Still brutally strong for my size which is fine.
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>>76745751
so that's why he grew the wildman beard
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>>76745270
He didn't cycle

>>76745278
I didn't need to roid, but I did because it was an efficient and minimally destructive means of achieving my goal in a fraction of the time
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How to explain the results of these guys? Is natty lifting really a meme?
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>>76745985
>yeah everyone else who makes a deal with the devil loses their soul, but IM different because im clever! ;)
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>>76745985
ok then post your goal body that you've achieved with discipline and minimally destructive means
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>>76743864
No he's not
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>>76743666
Quite the contrary my reply baiting friend. Lifting can only be worth it if you are natural. For what does roiding get you? Balls the size of peanuts and the heart of an 80 year old. And for what? To satisfy your unending insecurity and to posture among other deranged men lost in their own vanity to the point of castrating themselves. None of the labour is yours, and none of its fruits are yours to keep either. Hop off and you'll shrink back to a hormonally devastated state. Stay on it and you'll forever remain a slave to the genie in the bottle, your heart worsening with each seemingly insignificant dose, your blood pressure rising as days turn into weeks and weeks turn into months. All the while your vanity remains unsatisfied and the pinnacle you seek will only lead you to an early grave.

You have become the victim of decades of propaganda, culminating in the unending stream of roided physiques flooding social media. Meanwhile if you do so much as leave your dorito encrusted desk you'll find that normies are impressed by visible abs and a bicep vein. I have been called a roider by this board more times than I can count, and I didn't have to sacrifice my health either.
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>>76745102
This is a /fit/ cryptid at this point. The mythical roider that reached his natty limit and hopped off. Nobody has yet come up with an example of such a feat.
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>>76746531
Hundreds of men use steroids in the short term with no lasting ill effects.

>>76746541
Tongue my anus first and I'll think about it.
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>>76746656
as expected, you've nothing to show for it
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>>76746668
I didn't say I wouldn't show you, you're free to send money to my bitcoin wallet if you're so interested. There's absolutely no reason I would do so otherwise because you have no incentive not to trash me regardless of what I post.
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>>76745994
Natty lifting makes perfect sense if your goals are practical. You will be way stronger and look way better than everyone else around, girls will think you have a great physique, your health will be exceptional.
Roiding is necessary if you want to leave humanity behind. If you want to look like a "lifter" to casual normies.
But as for someone like >>76745985 I think it's a mistake. It's not that hard to basically reach your natty ceiling. It takes 6-12 months of hard work for an absolute beginner. It's not that bad and I'm not sure roiding would speed it up that much. Just put in your honest year's effort, get to 1/2/3/4, and then choose whether you want to dedicate years and attention to detail for marginal improvements, or if you want to keep growing exponentially like you did as a beginner..
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>>76746634
Pretentious gibberish. Why are you people so fucking retarded about everything. What do you care what someone does? I'm natural but I don't take it as a personal insult that other guys aren't. I don't get why you have to turn every fucking topic into a giant idiotfest of arguing and insulting. God forbid we actually talk about things and maybe learn something.
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>>76743666
The worst part is that some of those guys probably have tried PEDs of some sort. A lot of roiders still look bad.
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>>76743666
they all look beta
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>>76744915
This man is either on roids, precursors to falsely suggest he is not on roids, roiding on the 'off season' when he's not being tested, or approximately five feet tall.
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>>76746634
It's amazing how badly propaganda in all its forms have devastated our society
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It has always been a scam it only works if you're fine with being obese and then waht's the poiht
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>>76746647
>This is a /fit/ cryptid at this point. The mythical roider that reached his natty limit and hopped off. Nobody has yet come up with an example of such a feat.
Yeah, it's a common plan but everyone goes back repeatedly until something bad happens. I think it's the mood boost.
>>76747467
> It's not that hard to basically reach your natty ceiling. It takes 6-12 months of hard work for an absolute beginner.
That's quite short. You can look much better in a year but it's at least two of optimal training before you might not notice gains anymore.
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>>76743666
>top left
NARFI frog and grifter who doesn't train shoulders
>top right
literally a powershitter who doesn't train arms
>Alan Thrall
Looks fine in his pic there.
>middle
Don't know. But looks like he's been training a few years natty
>pewds
Gets more pussy than you.
>bottom left
bad genes
>bottom right
Looks like a dyel general post whose about to show us his sick arch
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People think they can hop on gear without repercussions 'cause cbum did it'.
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>>76749729
>It's not that hard to basically reach your natty ceiling. It takes 6-12 months of hard work for an absolute beginner.
>That's quite short. You can look much better in a year but it's at least two of optimal training before you might not notice gains anymore

Assuming you actually learn to lift diet and program, technique is the biggest deciding factor ive lifted weights for a year and a half straight after calisthenics and some here and there way back in highschool and even with all of the accumulated colloquial knowledge i barely put on any muscle size even with strength going up significantly however it was plateauing slightly, now i put on a slightly noticeable amount even weekly if im bulking. Lifting iq is so vast that theres more doctors in the world than naturals with insane numbers, no the nfl isnt natty unless maybe they did tryouts no 99% of anyone retarded strong on social media is roided if youre that much smarter than most people you probably can do a lot of other things besides be shirtless on the internet for gay dudes to probably return to your pictures in the spank bank more often than not.
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>>76751980
Well I started what I think is optimal training about two weeks in and had noticeable size in three months. Almost two years now and I'm pretty jacked.

My advice,
-high intensity on what you want to improve
-do just enough volume, one hard set is probably enough per exercise
-pay attention to fatigue and adjust program to fit, like lift when you feel recovered. deload when needed.
-eat something before workouts if you want to maintain energy
-lots of protein
-don't max legs after a few months. don't need them and your body can use resources elsewhere.
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>>76743666
I stop eating when I dont go to the gym and revert back to skinny villager mode so those look great, healthy dudes that have strength in everyday life to move shit, some definition too. Also they dont spend hundreds a month to actively damage their body. I'm almost thirty and it's starting to hit me that the body is growing older and shittier and you should care for it so it remains good for as long as possible.
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>>76743666
All these guys look ok. Some of you guys are either insane or latent homosexuals.
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>>76743666
In my 30's. I worked out for almost 20 years and barely looked better than the guy in the centre of the pic.
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>>76744915
Clearly not natty, even with good genes
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>>76752138
>either insane or latent homosexuals.
same thing
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>>76752356
the guy in the middle mogs 99% of the male population and by your own words you look better, the fuck do you want?
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>>76743666
Thrall unironically looks great
In fact his arc from SS Rip homo to BBM renegade to cardio & leanpilled has been really good for him, probably added years to his lifespan by cutting down the squats n oats bloat
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>>76746634
You're simply ignorant and just doing low IQ fearmongering
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>>76752371
>the guy in the middle mogs 99% of the male population
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>>76743666
I'm bigger and stronger than all these guys and I'm natty.

275 lbs at 163 lbs is impressive I'm not mad at that
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>>76752536
show topless pic with timestamp
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>>76752546
I cannot imagine a country so dysgenic other than maybe India to where any of these guys mog 99% of the population. In Europe these guys wouldn't even stand out in a crowd except Allan. I'm not gonna post my pics on 4chan. How about you post hand to prove you're not a pajeet? Truly you should feel ashamed of whatever race you are that these dysgenic physiques (except Allan) "mog" 99% of people you know
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>>76752571
>In Europe these guys wouldn't even stand out in a crowd except Allan
who gives a shit about standing out in a crowd? I'm talking shirtless aesthetic here, you wouldn't be able to tell who is lean and who is truly lean unless you saw them topless, and if you think those guys are nothing special you are utterly delusional. Also I accept your concession.
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>>76752581
>truly ripped
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>>76752581
spoken like a true Pajeet
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>>76752591
I already accepted your concession
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>>76752595
Sure if it helps you cope better. I "lost" this debate lol. Pic rel top 1% genetic specimen in Mumbai village
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Top 1% genetic specimen physique btw
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>obsessed with jeets
buckbroken
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Natty lifting is worth it. It's healthier and more honest.
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>>76744937
damn this board is filled with jealous ricecels/jeets nowadays huh?
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>>76743864
>>76743675
Pewdiepie looks good because he has a good looking face and other bozos are ugly.
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>>76743666
this shit is so fucking retarded
yeah if you're natty you aren't gonna be able to hold a candle to the instagram people but you live in the real world not the internet hell simulacra
go outside and look at how the average person is built
having moderate definition without a massive gut puts you above 90% of men
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>>76743666
My body is exactly like the guy in the top left including the double chin. Does it go away if I lower my body fat or is it the curse of being 30+?
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>>76743864
Why is that crazy? He has unlimited funds and all the spare time in the world
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>>76752820
>is it the curse of being 30+?
it's the curse of being a fat ass you retard. stop making excuses for your shitty life style, you've got more than half your life ahead of you.
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>>76752828
>Scooby has a double chin because he's fat
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>>76752834
yes
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>>76747576
I don't take it as a personal insult at all. Let's not kid ourselves and pretend roid users are some marginalised community in the online fitness space, especially in the last 5 years. There's plenty of room for ridicule, and much of that is justified.
>>76752528
Anecdotally I've met around a dozen roiders and every single one suffered from some kind of health issue correlated with their steroid usage. I just find roiding immensely stupid if your livelihood does not depend on your physique and performance. Decent abs is all it takes to impress. And if you don't care about the opinions of others as most roiders like to cope about, there are plenty of goals to achieve that will take you years and push you way above what you thought was capable. Roid if you want, fuck if I care, just don't go busting balls and coping like you're not some kind of drug addict.
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>>76752856
I know many roiders too and i can't recall anyone having serious health issues. You're not "smart" for being natty and they're not necessariliy "stupid". You say this to cope but in reality you're just a mediocre man with mediocre intelligence and mediocre physique.
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>>76752856
>Roid if you want, fuck if I care
the amount of cope you write shows you care a lot, you feel inferior and feel like they're cheating, that's why you insult their intelligence and create delusions about health. Steroids are not as lethal as incels on fit will have you believe, everyone who is someone has done it at some point
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>>76743666
25 years after I realized blacks aren't human
15 years after I accepted Christ as my Lord and Savior
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>>76752856
The nattycuck is immeasurable. You all niggers going to be on trt on some point. You can't fight aging, unless you're fine being weak. Meanwhile keep goysloppin jeet herbs to increase your baby test levels.
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>>76752940
What the fuck are you talking about retard lol
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>>76743864
yea man it's so crazy how the best one is the one with the pump in the most favorable lighting
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>>76744404
It's over
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>>76746634
Holy fuck roidtrannies on suicide watch
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>roiding can be done healthily- ACK
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>>76743666
All these dudes look good or great.
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>>76743666
Checked. What you forgot to mention is that they're all powerlifters. Powerlifting is not a very good way to train. Scientifically speaking, it doesn't work. You need to train to failure if you want to build muscle.
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>>76753647
>nigger was an alcoholic
>it was the roiiddsss
stay small
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>>76753710
>stay small
now you
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>look good for 3 years max
>testes shrink
>roidgut
>die early
>weakness is saunas and anything with wheels
ok bro how about
>honest
>integrity
>aesthetic if you actually deserve it
>longevity
>feel good
>live long
>balls stay the same size
>drag inhumanly sized nutsack over GILF wife when you're 70 and still active
idk man
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>>76753736
>roiding for this
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>>76745053
least retarded roiding suicide cultist
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>>76753736
please dont tell me you roided for that
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>>76753749
>>76753759
I'm not the roider, so no. but I am quite satisfied with my natty progress thank you.
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>>76753763
I was ragebaiting bigman.
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>>76753763
respect
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>>76743666
>>76743953
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I was born before social media so I don't have brainrot. Natty looks fine to me.
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>>76744404
this isn't the same guy lol
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>>76753853
It's Flex Wheeler lil'bro
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>>76753773
OK
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>>76743666
The only one that doesn't attract fags can squat like 600lbs
This seems fine to me
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>>76753773
His arms/shoulders were so small i never realized



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