>Where do I learn?https://old.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/index>Good YouTube channels to learn more?VigorousSteveDr. JamesDiagofit>Any books?Anabolics by William Llewellyn 11th Edition. (Do not follow the cycle and pct recommendations, its outdated. However it's great for learning about different compounds)Link: https://annas-archive.org/md5/564aacbc398bdd55dd90bd128be33e79>Where do I purchase my gear?Stop asking to be spoonfed, there are countless bodybuilding forums that will guide you in the right direction. Do your research. Always opt for legit pharma gear if possible.
>>76743937>Good YouTube channels to learn more?VigorousSteveDr. JamesDiagofitI really hope you guys don't do this
>>76743971As always the contrarian who doesn't even fraud has to yap his gums
Is it more worth it to fraud with test to get social confidence gains or fraud with psych drugs (phenibut, gabapentin, lyrica, etc...)?
>>76743988That is frankly a really dumb reason to fraud. Ask yourself if its really worth taking multie toxic medications and shut yourself down just be able to do something you can completely do naturally with a little work.
>>76743994How so? The social effects of testosterone and your hormone levels in general are well documented.
>>76743996There is no medication or supplement that will fix your ability to socialize with others. This isn't the answer you want to hear, but the only way to get good at it is to get uncomfortable and practice IRL. Its like expecting steroids to make you huge without working out but even more ridiculous than that.
>>76743988Not comparible. You can take phenibut like 1x/wk max otherwise you get brutal withdrawals from its insane tolerance curve. You're in it for the longhaul with gear 1g phenibut + a shot or two of vodka will crush 90% of your anxiety though
>>76744013Will it really fix the problem though? If he requires alcohol and phenibut to socialize and be confident, is that really the ideal solution?
>>76744016If you actually use them as training wheels to stop being a sperg, yeah. The problem is not taking that shit when you have it lying around and obeying the once per week rule. Easy on paper, but life happens and the bullshit of day to day living can easily have you grabbing scoops to cope. Then you enter something called "phenibut hell" where you need to slooooowwwlllyyy taper down, or you can literally start seizing. >t. Ex phenibut user Never got to seizure levels, but the 1 week cold turkey after a ~ month long use was some nasty shit. Thankfully I can now use it as intended, as the fear of going through that outweighs the temptation to double dip
>>76743976>shilling for jewtubers>diagofit>let me abuse tren for the lols, starts milking from his tits, oh no guys I can't stop blasting but follow what I said>slavnigger steve>250mg test only, 25mg anavar is deleterius, le primo is king
>getting emotional from legally blondeyou think my estrogen is too high, or is that movie just that good?
>>76743937which one is your youtube channel pussy
>>76744078Lower your tren dose you are clearly schizo
>>76743996roids aren't fucking magic. at best, they help you be more you. If you're a fucking spaz now, you'll be an insufferable self delusional overly paranoid fuckwit on gear. fuckin sick of this dumb shit you fucking idiots pull out of other people's asses. do yourself a favor, and forget this shit exists before you go and do irreparable harm to yourself. take propanolol if calling a pizza place gives you panic attacks. not fucking aas. fucks sake
>>76744054i mean.... it's pretty good
>>76743996If you're a nervous bitch and take testosterone you will be a nervous bitch with bigger muscles.
>>76744078he's diagofit, he's not first time he shilled his channel in these threads
>>76744042Steve looks like he's that guy irl who'd microcorrect you on everything. Like he's perpetually seething and you can literally feel him suppressing his tren rage long enough to make videos
>>76744226NTA but I've already done enclo and it made me feel pretty damn comfy in social settings from getting just shy of 1k ng/dl, after being albeit mid T levels at 600. I can more or less deduce what ~1.5k+ would feel like. Does test have a U shape effect on confidence at high ranges or something. Yes I know I'm about to be roasted for testing serms before pinning
>>76744228Do I look dark enough to be him? Take your meds nigger. Yes he's a retard on some stuff but his steroid videos on yt are pretty good, certainly better than a lot of the shitfluencers on social media.
>>76744304Cut your nails
>>76743976he gives solid advise tho and shows what happens when you fuck around. do as he says and not as he does.
>>76743988do you want to fry your brain or organs>>76743994man who's considering becoming a frauder has LIKELY tried le little work and le being yourself and le self improvement and has concluded that he's not like the average man that just goes with the natural flow of life and to who normal things like relationships just happen on their own with little to no workexchanging little bit of your physical health for mental health can be worth it
>>76743937I started taking testosterone approximately 1 years ago, and I didn’t want to notice that I started gaining an attraction for men, but I never found myself to be attracted to other guys sexually.I’ve experimented with men, before and after transitioning, but not after my first testosterone shot. and it wasn’t enjoyable (he told me it was normal the first time), but, after my first shot I started gaining an attraction towards them, although, I am more attracted to females.I have been in multiple relationships and was sexually active with cisgender females before taking testosterone. I don’t see how anything except the testosterone could have affected me.There's actually research on this, it's a common experience. One study on ncbi showed 49% of trans guys attractions changed after starting testosterone, you can find dozens of articles where journalists talk to trans guys about it, and hundreds of posts by trans guys saying this happenedI never found guys attractive and after about a year on T things began to change, but I'm not romantically attracted to guys. It is definitely the hormones, also some heterosexual males that do high doses of the anabolic steroid trenbolone stop it because all of a sudden they become attracted to other guys and have fantasies of doing sexual things with another guy and it freaks them out.
>76745047What the fuck is this
>>76745047actual roid trannyAre you a woman taking T to be manly, or a MTF taking T to become TheyHulk?
>>76743937this nigga died of sodium kidney stones overdose
>>76743971>>76744042>>76744229>thread shills terrible ytubers>thread goes to shitWhoda thunk
Can we just agree not to shill ANY youtubers in the OP?
>>76745125When I’m reminded that people like this exist, I feel a little sad inside. What the FUCK, man.I get it, you’re high right now, but fucking seriously? Never in my wildest coke-fueled egotistic fantasies have I ever even dipped a toe into the lake of narcissism you are currently swimming in. Grow the fuck up, you fucking loser.
What does he say that is wrong tho? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbH4dioF3k0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9t5aT9-3Hg
I fraud to improve my health
>>76743971Since no one mentioned it, Dr. James is good
Reminder: b&c is a meme, there is no downside to moderate length cycling once or twice a year. You are not a professional bodybuilder, you are just some guy with big muscles, it's not worth annihilating your endocrine system and shortening your lifespan 10-15 years.
lol true
>>76745292>moderate length cyclingHow many weeks?
How do i get bloodwork? Do i go to a doctor? I haven't been to a doctor in 10 years. I dont know if i even have health insurance.
>>76745321HURR DURR YOUR RETARDED YOU DONT KNOW HOW TO GET BLOODWORK HURR DURR GATEKEEPING IS GOOD
>>7674531412. If you don't see serious gains within 12 weeks you should consider a different hobby that you are not genetically handicapped at.
Roidnigger gatekeeping laundry list:>you're too young>you haven't trained enough>you're too poor>you don't have a gay boy car>you don't know how to get bloodworm>you came into the thread about steroids and asked about steroids>you don't want to commit to 20 continuous years of AAS abuseMeanwhile, 16 year olds continue to blow up on tren within 1-2 years blindly ordering online, doing sarms, eating like shit, training like shit, and make millions getting monetised.
>>76745292>not seeing the difference between pro bodybuilder levels of roids that absolutely can reduce your lifespan and any other way of doing things A gross oversimplification and makes it seem like you don't even fraudAnti-roid chud vibes, just come in and call everyone a roid tranny it's more entertaining 2bh
>>76743937>on steroid forum>moderators doesnt like me>claims I sent a bunch of DMs to women and bans me for itI have never sent a single DM on that site, ever
>>76743937To anyone here who uses 0.5" insulin pins for their delts, you ever draw with that pin an use the same one to inject? Thinking of doing that rather than backloading, just curious if others have bothered with that an your experiences? Heard half inch get badly dulled/blunt after drawing?
>>76745516Everyone who uses them for insulin doesn’t back load them, they load and inject with the same needle. That’s how they are supposed to be used. I did it that way and the needle is still sharp.Loading them with oil can take forever though bc oil is thicker and the needle is tiny so backloading them can be faster.
>>76745215https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4rjvNFthtCo
Can you fix steroids acne without Accutane?
>>76745815in my case, accutane hardly helped, i took EQ and all the shit came off almost almost immediately. no your derm wont suggest you to take EQ, in fact he will tell you not to and to take accutaneyou do you
>>76745855How would EQ help acne? Is this common or something that just worked for you?
>>76746044i am not a derm and cant answer, i did it after some anons claimed it helped them
>>76746056Well shit good enough for me, what's the minimum dose you'd recommend? I never took eq
>>76746076dont listen to the troll, EQ will wreck your skins up with more break out, go see a derm asap before it turns to scars
Doc recommended I go on clomid as an alternative to TRT.What are your thoughts on taking clomid to increase testosterone levels?Note: I am not trying to reproduce right now, I just don’t want to shut down my testicles.
Gonna start a 20 week 800mg Test C bulking cycle. I'm maybe 2 or 3 weeks from finishing cutting on 300mg. Should I start blasting when I hit my goal weight or 1 or 2 weeks before I expect to finish cutting?
>>76746565depends on how low you are, whether you have primary or secondary hypogonadism, and where you want to be. Clomid imo has worse side effects than pinning in the long term
>>76746639test will add water weight, so, if you want to see that number, start after you hit it
>>76746726I dont really care about seeing the number desu. I know the trajectory of my fat loss and the diet is dialed in 100%. I'm used to a swing of about 5-8 pounds of water weight when hopping on anyway, so I know to account for it.
>small test base>long ester trest>any random dht>orals or sarms if you feel like itdon't think I'll ever do anything else desu
I'm on baby's first cycle (500mg test) and it's so wild how calm I've gotten. Less anxiety and stress... I'm even less of a coomer, i feel in charge of my impulses much more than before. Like my head is clearer, waking up in the morning is no longrr torture... Anyone else experience this?
Is it normal for the side of your body with your heart to have more vascularity or is that a bad sign lol
>>76746797blasting always turns me into a gigacoomer until I inevitably let my estrogen get out of control
>>76746800
>>76746808I had that fear but no. Normally I'm an escort addict and an absolute coomer I'll be edging for an entire day until my balls fucking hurt. I've had entire Saturdays absolutely wasted edging. And i don't even do any sort of recreational drugI'm just sick in the head tbqhHow does your coompulse manifest? Porn? Wanking? Edging? ...sex?
>>76746797Sounds like placebo, if anything test will make you a gooner. Unless you're taking finasteride.
>>76746824I'm not lolI mean, I'm still an absolute gooner, the desire is still there but i can control it much better.
>>76746815>How does your coompulse manifest?Honestly it gets really bad sometimes. I spend a lot of time flirting with tranny tops on insta. My favorite is to sniff my girlfriend's dirty asshole while I make her edge me. Then I'll fuck her for an hour straight while I call her a filthy whore and make her suck her ass juice off my tongue and put my most powerful vibrator on her clit until she's literally crying and begging me to stop making her cum.I was like this before roids desu, but they definitely made me worse.
>>76746835
Am I supposed to remove this piece of metal in the middle??
>>76746860NO NIGGA
>>76745452KEK
>>76746863I can barely fit an alcohol swab through it to wipe the silicon stopper tho??
>>76746896he's making fun of you because you're clearly retarded. yes I would suggest removing it. why would you even need to ask?
>>76746905I've never seen a vial with this shit on it at least not when I ordered peptides, Jesus Christ you gate keeping trannies are insufferable
>>76746896I'm not memeing you. You just need access to the membrane. Don't put the alcohol swab on there no need. Just use two different needles and you're good. One syringe to extract, one to inject. And of course apply a good amount of alcohol on your skin to clear it That's how i do it at least
>>76746933>One needle to extract, one to inject.Fixed
>>76746797Same, started test at 100 (diagnosed low T) and moved up to 500 a week for the last month. Everything in life just got better. Libido feels relatively unchanged for me except once a week my dick will decide it can break through a concrete wall if I let it.
>>76746933Yeah that's what I do, thanks for the info. I've just never seen this little metal piece in the center surrounding the stopper
>>76746797I am absolutely more calm, less anxiety and stress, however I am 100% a gigacoomer when my E2 is dialed in right. On my first blast of 500mg I was absolutely super-libido 24/7.
>injected some yk-11>heart hurts
I never wanted to /fraud/ until I had kids. Just the idea of possibly screwing up my balls scared me.Anyway, now that I've had kids, I'm thinking about a test e cycle. What are the real downsides?
>>76747193You will shut yourself down. If you cycle, that means you gotta take toxic breast cancer meds to restart production, along with feeling low T sides for weeks.You gotta control e2, if it gets too high you could get gyno, and once it forms the only way to get rid of it is surgery. If you crash your e2 you'll be depressed AF, no libido, achy jointsThe only way to keep most of your gains is if you blast and cruise. If you cycle, eventually you will revert back to your natty limit best case scenario until you begin another cycle.
>>76747209Thx for the reply.Qrd on blast and cruise then?I'm assuming that's starting off a high dose and maintaining
>>76747221Blast means a cycle of high dose compounds, then once its over instead of coming off everything you run TRT, rinse and repeat. Most people here will recommend B&C, but that comes with its own problems. You're taking risks with your health either way, up to you to decide if its worth it.
>>76747221read the fucking wiki
>>76746740ah nice. well i'm a junkie, so i'd just hop on asap. make lifts go brrrrr
>>76746860looks like it ripped from the plastic cap when you popped it off. you could try clipping those little metal bits that connect it to the edge. just be careful not to remove any more than that middle bit, or else the rubber stopper could pop out, and you'll either lose your oil, or allow crap to get in there
>>76747221750mg blast 24 weeks, 200 cruise 24 weeks, ad nauseum. check cholesterol and prostate antigen twice a year. watch for high e2 sides on blast, and take an ai twice a week if they pop up. shrimple
>>76747226Why not add compounds when cruising so you're at least replacing lower test with something? And then come off the extra compounds when blasting?
>>76745292Gay
>>76747193You will never come off once you start. Don't know if that's a downside but its a truth.
>>76747829Injecting 3ml of oil is usually not considered a cruise.
>>76747934Tell me why you wouldn't do that.
>>76743988Who do so many people want a magic shortcut pill to fix their shit? Put in the fucking work
>>76747209Literally all of these downsides are inherent to pinning. Cycles are fine and are what someone new should do for their first time, rather than committing to jabbing themselves with needles for the literal rest of their lives. Yes you dont get to keep all of your gains once the cycle ends, but you keep several times more mass than you would have gained staying natty so you are still coming out way ahead. Nothing wrong with B&C and honestly thats where most people end up if they do more than one cycle, but for a first timer its better that they try the sample pack first before signing up for life.
>>76747961A cruise should be a break. What you're describing is a permablast. I'm ok with that if you are but it's not B&C.
>>76749697You're not breaking either way. You're still taking test.
I've just recently started taking tren and it's made me so angry. Or rather, the stuff that used to annoy me really pisses me off now. about an hour ago I got into a pretty big argument with one of my annoying co-workers and I'm like 99% sure I just got written up and will have to see HR this week. Before I would have just sighed and let it go but today I could feel myself getting hot and sweating. Like my body went into fight or flight mode over some guy being a little annoying. I don't think this is for me. I'm too weak mentally to hold it in.
>>76749832Sounds like woman behavior, youre clearly not taking enough
>>76641226still wondering about this one op
>>76749832Dosage & ester? Also, what other compounds are you on right now?
>>76749694>but you keep several times more mass than you would have gained staying natty so you are still coming out way aheadYou won't keep gains past your natty limit. Its impossible. Once you cycle off, over time you will return to your natty limit, there is no amount of diet or training that can keep any gains past your natty potential without anabolics.
>>76750446True but what if someone is fine being at their natty limit? If you are lifting competitively or something of the sort then sure, you need to get big as possible. But if you are just some average joe walking around looking to be in shape, I feel like there is no shame in cycling and going back to natty. Then again everyones test levels are so pathetically low compared to decades ago that keeping a modest cruise dose going almost seems therapeutic and legitimately beneficial to ones health.
>>76749822Retarded monkey, your own body produces test. If you take a low dosage like 170 to 185. You're staying in the natty zone while your CNS and health markers recover.
>>76750626I think for a first time user a cycle is what they should go with, as you said before. If someone can dial in their diet and training to keep the gains at their natty limit (most people wont do this but its possible) and they're happy with their natty limit then that's best case scenario. The reality is almost nobody stops at one cycle though.
>>76750680You're the retard. You could be taking low dosages of tren by your definition still be taking a break.
>>76750734alright you're baiting, no one can be this retarded. Just keep blasting king
>>76750837Ok, so you have nothing
>>76743937If i took steroids id be able to break someones arm mid punch and wpuld probably end up eating their face off
>>76743988I have never experienced any noticeable psychological effects from higher dosages of test. I'm a docile and socially anxious fuck by nature, no compounds I've ever tried fixed that. Looking good and getting compliments and getting hit on/approached by girls absolutely helped, but in reality most of the work is done internally. The more you interact with people the better you get at it the more positive responses you get the more you see the "evidence" that you can do it, that's really all there is to it.
>>76746800>Side of the body with your heartYou mean your LEFT side or are you one of those genetic anomalies? Is that side your dominant handed side?
>>76749822Actual retard, not sure if bait tho bc its so retarded
>>76751025You're retarded.
>>76751154
oldhead checking injesus christ these threads fucking suck now holy shit.
>>76751261You're the nigger
>>76745516I've done hundreds of injections like this and it's fine. Drawing with a 29 or 30 gauge takes a few minutes but it's not bad.
what should i do for this last bit of stubborn belly fat? already on tirz and tren, and it just won't fucking go away. clen + t3? some of y'all like dnp, but chinks with raws keep gettin shut down, and i'm wary of a hot tab from some fucko. i hear reta increases metabolism? ive got enough tren raws to last me a minute, so my current plan is to just ride it out as long as i fucking can. bp meds have made it a breeze so far compared to previous blasts, but sides still are tickin up, so my time is limited. i'm doin 500 test 300 tren.... maybe it's just water, and i'm fighting against myself? should i flip it, and go high tren low test? fucking annoying
>>76751267remember where you are.... this site has always been terrible. that's part of the appeal!
>>76751544>last bit of stubborn belly fatfirst get down to 8% bfthen fix your anterior pelvic tiltreta does not increase metabolism to the extent clen/t3 doesi would say just do clen or gw501516
>>76744036>Then you enter something called "phenibut hell" where you need to slooooowwwlllyyy taper down, or you can literally start seizing.Just using this shit for a week gave me about 5 days of feeling like I was in hell. Phenibut must have the nastiest tolerance buildup out there, as I've done gabapentin for months and dropped it without feeling a thing. Definitely the least worth it anxiety drug out there. I thought the 1x/wk rule was a meme, but fuck me did that shit bite me in the ass
>>76751544Just fast for 36 hours a couple times bro it will go away, especially if you're on enough gear
>>76751553>>76752359thaaaank yooooooous. i'll try fasting first, before ordering clen. never thought about pelvic tilt too. gonna have to check that out
>>767515443iu of GH a day makes the stubborn belly fat go away.
>>76751544Tren decreases HGH and IGF-1. Lower the test and tren. 250 test 150 tren 50mg anavar and 4iu hgh. Cardio everyday and fat will melt away
>>76752504ooh man i want to so bad.... tranny just posted 36iu kits us domestic, too. i want to do 8iu though, because, fuck it, we ball. seems high enough for happy fun times, and low enough to avoid undesirable effects>>76752774ah did not know that! good bit of info. thank you!
>>76751549it seems to be missing the trip fags who actually gave decent advice and actually posted progress and insight into what they're experiencing.
>>76753081You can thank the acne nigger and the nattys coming up and shitting up the thread. I try to help where I can, but there are way more experience people than me on here, and truthfully I am running a business so hard for me to help out as much. Considering the amount of people suggesting PCT, I'm thinking nattys and inexperienced one-cycle fags are ruining it. Still some good posts here and there though.
