>Who is /fat/ for?For cake carvers working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice. Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/>What do I do first?1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/ - Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros), LoseIt (great for both), or Waistline (FOSS).>Now what?Count calories, all of them.Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.Buy scales, be accurate.Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and lose fat much quicker. Not lifting results in the body eating away muscle AND fat.Drink more water.Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html>DON'TEat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.Eat processed foods.Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks."Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.>Other resources:Loose skin, gynecomastia & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/Reddit Wiki: https://www.reddit.com/r/loseit/wiki/faqPrevious thread: >>76742685
>was 160kg in september, my max weight>now have lost enough weight my scales actually work and shows a cool 150I can't believe it, the process works
i haven't had an erection in two weeks. does that mean i'm not eating enough?
>>76747722good job big guy. do not stop.
>>76747725It means you haven't seen your mum enough
i'm so hungry i can't sleep...starving myself better be worth it /fat/
>>76747708So the question I have is simple, what do you do to curb hunger? I'm just drinking a fuck ton of water. It's making me piss a lot, but it's preventing me from eating, which is good I think.
was going to comment on the old thread but fuck it, since it's here i will post in the new thread. this is some great information. i recently started my weight loss journey after being obese for most of my adult life and my doctor telling me i need to lose weight. just got done with an hour long workout and gonna go for a long ass walk in a minute. is there a discord or something for motivation amongst peers and accountability? or is it just this thread?
my 36" pants is no longer as tight after 3.5kg (7.7lbs)loss. i think i can start wearing it again after 2 more kilos (4.4lbs).
>>76747741Just this thread. Never join 4chan discords, they're always moderated by powertripping losersWe have the fatty contest in the OP for accountability.
>>76747741remember diet is more important than exercise.
>Sober October, Day 20Today I ate:1.5 cups of greek yogurt1 cup (cooked) of steel cut oats2 cups of homemade chicken chili2 ounces of cheddar rice cakes1 protein bar5 pieces of sugarless gum3 cups of black coffee48 ounces of diet pepsivitamins/psyllium1450kcal
>>76747737going low carb made hunger much easier to tolerate for me. it was suffering on a normal diet.otherwise, i make a huge bowl salad. it's ~200 calories and is very filling.i squeeze 2 lemons to not use any oil.
>>76747752i am aware. just been upping my exercise since my gf is a drama queen and thinks monitoring my calories closely means i'm gonna fucking die in a day. i would up and starve myself if she didn't get so angry at me for it. i don't understand women sometimes. i'm trying to better myself, i'm not a retard.
should i fast for one or two days?
>>76747737Eat high protein. Naturally produces more GLP-1, suppresses Grehlin which is the hormone that makes you feel hungry. Also burns more calories to digest the protein. I was doing 1500 cals a day for 2 weeks and that has naturally dropped to 1200 calories a day because I’m just not finding myself hungry enough for 1500
>>76747754How do I into greek yoghurt? It always tastes off
>>76747771Use it like sour cream. Mix stuff into it like taco seasoning or whatever.
>>76747771find a good brand. some of them are rank but others are good. you want it to be a neutral and slightly bitter taste, not sour
>>767477612-3 for real weight loss, the first day really isn't enough.
Fatty ContestBagOMilk 183.0lbsDammit keep forgetting
>>76747781>3 daysnot possible
>>76747781nta but do you work out while fasting? or just ride it out with doing vidya/work and drinking a shit ton of water?
>>76747783mate i just started my 4th.
>>76747786i meant that its not possible for me, my record is 57 hours
>>76747785i do light cardio, its harder to do cardio when dry fasting for me. i did 2 days dry and now im my 4th (sliped into a water fast)like an hour of walking, and an hour of cycling.
>>76747788ah man thats rough buddy, i pretty much never count the first 24 hours as real fat loss.
>>76747771option 1: hold your nose and power it downoption 2: add blueberries or a little honey to sweeten itoption 3: buy flavored greek yogurt. i have purchased chobani zero sugar varieties in the past. it tastes so good that i don't trust it.option 4: what this guy said >>76747777, you can mix it with stuff.learn to tolerate it, shit's magic.
>ate my food for dinner as soon as I got to work>hungry at work nowThere's a domino's down the road...
>>76747859not worth it anon, not worth it
>>76747737>High protein>Boiled potatoes>OMADIt's honestly easy as fuck at this point. I don't even feel the hunger, you just need patience.>Cod, chicken, shrimp, crab, pork tenderloinAll relatively cheap and low calorie. 90% of potatoes are 80 calories per 100g, and boiled potatoes in particular score the highest in satiety out of any food.
>>76747859not worth it bro.
so hungry...
>>76747873I want to punt this orange thing into the sun
Friendship ended with ovenNow air fryer and slow cooker are best friends
>>76747886based, all i use is my air fryer and stove for meals now. (mainly chicken and rice)
>>76747737I like to save most of my calories for dinner. After work I make a yuge plate of raw veggies, pickles, olives and Greek yogurt with ranch seasoning mixed in. Comes out to about 150 calories depending on the veggies and it takes me a solid 30 mins to eat it all. A nice boost of protein, fiber and micros too- I never get my 5 a day without it.
>>76747737if i'm hungry and don't want to have a meal yet, i have greek yogurt and i'm good for a couple hours. if you're fasting, i don't have an answer besides black coffee or water with a slice of lemon
>>767477712% fat tastes miles ahead of nonfat for a negligible increase in calories. 5% is quite decadent, add Dutch process cocoa and stevia for a cheeky treat at the end of the night.
When do the pebble poops stop? arggggh
>>76747771Mix in a decent protein powder and it might just taste like ice cream
>>76747771Not sure on this one. I always buy a tub with good intentions but usually sits in my fridge unopened until expires. Theres just not a good time in my day where I feel like yogurt. I do just take a probiotic pill in the morning with my oats. Perhaps I could use some yogurt in place of some of the milk, but then my million dollar question would be...does heating yogurt kill the good bacteria?
>>76747815>shit's magicWhat's it do?
>>76747771Buy Skyr instead. Same macros but has a more tart flavor that you might like.
Not sure if this is a stupid question or not, but why don't people just eat strawberry yogurt instead of greek? you avoid that whole gross sour taste. the macros arent that far off either if you buy the right stuff.
>>76747958Greek yogurt is supposed to be a base for other things. If you just want to eat it straight out of the container then yeah get it flavored.
>>76747958I used to buy some pretty good strawberry yogurt and add fresh raspberries. Was pretty good. Think it was pretty high fat though, but I wouldnt eat enough for it to be a problem. Very satisfying.
>>76747948very high satiety and very good macros. anecdotally, when i incorporate it into my diet it makes calorie restriction much easier.
>>76747948Very filling, great macros, versatile. Eat 150-200 cals worth and you’ll put a huge dent in your protein goal and be satisfied for a few hours. You can have it classic like with berries/flax seeds, turn it into savory dips, use it as a spread for a Mediterranean wrap, put a big scoop on a spicy bowl of chili, etc etc. Cottage cheese is similar and the flavor is milder (as long as it’s not super salty like TJ’s) but the texture is kind of yucky and needs blending for much more than mixing into scrambled eggs imo. I don’t understand why more brands don’t sell it pre-whipped, just mix in some jam or sugar free pudding mix and it’s reminiscent of cheesecake.
Well that concludes another day. I barely made it and feel like shit.>>76747966I just stuff the chobani yogurt mixed with creatine and chia seeds while gaming.
Fatty ContestName: Dzonathan GavertWeight: 100.05 kgOverall progress:https://tinylink.net/1JdoyMotivational Song of the Day:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkjyxJh2b3M
>>76748123
>>76747868This and keep it low fat, you are already burning tons of fat from your stored body fat
just had a dream that the US gov put a $700k bounty on my head.....
>>76748135i wouldnt try to kill u anon
I’ve only consumed 1,400 calories today and shan’t consume any more
Good morning anons. God bless and you got this. Back to work today after being sick.
>be fat, wear XL clothes>lose 9 kg>many XL shirts are now a little too loose / saggy>most L shirts are still a little tight, if not outright WAY too tight>pants went down two sizes fairly comfortablyWhat the fuck...
>>76748216L didn't fit me until i was under 25 bmi
>>76747771I add walden’s farm caramel in mine and it tastes very good.
>>76747868Boiled potatoes is the best. I also like oven baked potatoes.
>>76748237>I also like oven baked potatoeshow dp you prepare them?
4:30 AM and my sleep schedule is absolutely fried. Can't sleep so may as well go on an adventure to the gym. Should be tired enough to instantly fall asleep when I get back
>Eat 600kcal of chicken for breakfast yesterday and nothing else all day>Still feel bloated this morning>Gain 0.1kgI can't deal with this. I'm going to fast until tomorrow morning.
>>76748403Ngmi
>>76748135future falseflag patsy?
>>76748326seriously ? you have no business cooking for yourself if you ask this, go to mcdonald’s
Fatty ContestNicoSVW116kg
how the fuck do I get mounjaro if I'm already skinny? I want to use it to get shredded
>>76747886i got tired of my air fryer because cleaning is a pain in the ass
>>76748517sis use baking paper
>>76748517i just use aluminum foil or a silicone tray for things that get messyquick wipe down with a wet rag while it's still warm, stuff comes off easy.you can just soak the air fryer basket in hot, soapy water if things get bad.cleaning it doesn't take very long. you save a lot more time since it heats up so quick compared to a normal oven.
>>76748517>not using baking paperbased retard
>>76748123rooting for you you meticulous little bastard
Is it a bad idea to only do upper body resistance training and bundling leg work and cardio into one day a week?
>>76747761This anon >>76747781 is correct that there are certain processes in the body that only really kick in on day 3 onwards, but 1 day fasts are still great for weight loss. You might not be getting any fasting benefits but it’s still a day with a ~2500 calorie deficit, which is huge.Just do what works for you best, if you can manage 3 days or more, great, if you can only do 1 at a time that’s also fine.Realistically 3 days fasting whether all in one go, or spread out, is still going to be a 7500 calorie deficit, the only difference is having it altogether gives you stuff like autophagy and ketosis
>>76748524>>76748538>>76748553baking paper and the like fuck up heat distribution, which i guess is not an issue if you don't mind taste and texture but for me i can't go back to baking paper after cooking without it, but i also hate cleaning so in the end i store the air fryer in a box
>>76748562are you asking if it's a good idea to lift 1 day a week? yeah it's great if you want to never see any gains
>>76748577Oh my heckin science not the heat distribution maillard reactionero!!! Even though the air fryer fucking heats equally!!!!
>>76748580patently false but whateverI've seen women who do upper body one day a week, even skipping some, and complaining about being too jacked
>>76748577you're just lazy and looking for excuses
>>76748580No, I lift three days a week doing upper body and go running once a week
>>76748589yeah that's fine. You really should give legs their own day, but if you can't / don't want to you should at least prioritize and do the leg workouts first in that day before you're tired from doing upper body.>>76748586>women are complainingwow I guess we better throw out the entirety of human knowledge around bodybuilding
>>76748602The point is, through years of effort you will make gains even if you only do it once a week
>>76748611>yearslolyeah sureonce a week is better than nothingbut not by much
>>76748614it's better than forcing yourself so hard you actually lose progress from being injured
>>76748616>working out 3x a week is going to cause an injuryhave you ever stepped foot inside a gym?
>>76748619Yes and I got injured and still am tending to that injury
>>76748624lol filtered
>>76748625:(
>>76748602>prioritize and do the leg workouts first in that day before you're tired from doing upper bodyNo, fuck that I'll give them their own day doing Upper Cardio Push Pull got me feeling retarded, UCUL it is
>>76748611once a week is better than not at all but anon, please don't delude yourself that you'll make any gains from training a single day a week. because you won't.
I WANT TO BE SKINNY AND SEX A WOMAN
>went from 310 to 170 in the past 15 monthshow do I keep this off? I'm so worried that I'll put it back on from all the stuff I read about fat cells remaining here. I've done really basic lifting (never lifted in my life) the past 15 months, all cardio and diet to lose the weight. I figured when I get down to around 155 I'll really start trying to bulk because maybe increased mass will improve my TDEE and make it harder to become obese again?
>>76748802find a physically demanding hobby you can't do if you gain the weight back. It serves two functions>you will immediately see if you start gaining some of the weight back because it will be much harder to do anything in the hobby>it will be also keep you in shape while you're enjoying yourselffor me it was rock climbing and hiking. Don't bulk, bulking will lead to regaining again, start lifting more seriously though
does CICO work if you're eating bread?
>>76748815I want to bulk to improve my (admittedly not bad, but kind of annoying) loose skin situation. I'm worried about doing anything to increase my caloric intake though. For the past year and a half its been 1600-1800 calories a day and any deviation from that I feel will just pile weight back on. I do pushups, bench, OHP, squat but I don't go hard at it so I sometimes think I'm wasting my time. Your advice about a hobby that forces me to be vigilant is good - I'm not really social otherwise I'd start playing a team sport but I can do hikes.any fatties who successfully avoided putting the weight back on years later?
>>76748815Can confirm. I tried bulking for three weeks. Now my weight loss journey is back to where it was in March.HERE I GO AGAIN ON MY OWN
>>76748831so how do we ex fatties get muscular? what about that actor who used to be obese and now is ripped and looks like a UFC fighter, the one from American History X. he has loose skin but a really good physique otherwise.
>5'7''>230 lbs>12 hours from now will be the 72 hour mark of this water fastI can't wait to break this with a cup of warm garlic-y broth. Yesterday was brutal. I was laying in bed for most of it feeling like I had the flu. I feel a little bit better today so I might actually be able to get on the bike for 15-20 minutes before I break the fast.
>>76747725>wish this was meI'm constantly horny when trying to lose weight.
>making soup in slow cooker>2 hours left until it's done>house smells amazing>16 hours into an 18 hour fast>stomach growling like a chainsaw>can't think about anything but foodplease help, I don't know if I can make it
>>76747725save some of that low libido for NNN
you WILL make it
>>76748852Im gonna hop on the roids once Im lean enough for it not to all aromatize into estrogen.
>>76747755>going low carb made hunger much easier to tolerate for me. it was suffering on a normal diet.same here, I went keto because I heard it made it easier to fast along with the diet, and they were right. Something about eating the majority of your calories from fat makes you much more satiated than if you had from carbs
>>76747741anon, friendly piece of advice: NEVER EVER EVER EVER NEVER EVER join 'cords from 4chan. They're always without fail toxic, troon-controlled, groomer schizo hubs. Just stick with these threads and use the resources in the OP if you want to track your progress with us
>>76747758maybe she likes you better when you're fat and out of shape? Certainly makes you less appealing to other women, which she might be threatened by
>>76747859if you're gonna break with a cheat meal, don't debase yourself with fucking dominos
>>76747919>When do the pebble poops stop?when you stop eating rabbit food
>>76748115holy shit dude drop your carb consumption significantly, that's why you feel like shit
>>76748816yes. If you properly count your calories then you'll still be losing if you're in a deficit. For a lot of people bread is an extra food item with their meal and is almost never needed so it's just extra calories for most people but if, for example, you were making a sandwich then just track properly what you put in the sandwich and the calories the bread has.>>76748822for loose skin hydrate your problematic areas, could start start supplementing 15g collagen daily(it helped overall with my skin elasticity and health in general so it couldn't hurt) and avoid sun exposure while lowering your body fat percentage. The fat you still have on your body just makes the loose skin sag more so the lower bf% will definitely help you, stretched out skin will never properly return to it's form but keeping your skin elastic and healthy will help with some of the skin retraction that can happen but genetics is also involved so it's a lottery in the end.>>76748852he's rich and an actor so he has all the spare time in the world to do nothing but visit the gym and work on himself
>>76748875>>5'7''>>230 lbsplease post bodyI seriously want to see what this looks like, you're almost exactly 100 pounds heavier than I am
>>76747873iktfIt dawns on me that I have to stay hungry for the rest of my life
>24 hours into a fast>have another 24 lefthow do i make the hunger go away
>>76749044vidyawatch a movie go for a walk
>>76747708I hear conflicting things about fruitI hear that it helps weight loss because of insulin resistance, but I also hear that it cause weight gain because of the fructoseAnyone here have any personal experience with fruit while losing weight, specifically blueberries?
>>76749052I eat fruit and it seems to work out fine, admittedly I started back on it over halfway into my weight loss journey and still in moderation, tending towards berries with the occasional apple or banana
>>76749044>cram down some black coffee>exercise>scream as loud and hard as you can into a pillow, repeat until not hungry
starting weight: 118.1 kg 20/8current weight: 102.9 kg 21/10goal weight: 70 kgheight: 179 cmmethod: rolling 72s with water and coffee
>want to eat pint of ice cream>walk for 4 miles first to even it out.>ice cream doesn't seem worth the hassle anymore
I have some macadamia nuts on hand and have no idea what to pair them with while on a caloric deficit, or more generally. Anyone have an idea or two?
>>76749210they are nice to eat by themselves, you don't need to pair them with anythingt. have a macadamia tree in my backyardthat being said>snackingdon't do that
>>76749113Honest, can you drink black coffee during fasting?
>>76749215>t. have a macadamia tree in my backyardI'd be obese if that were me but also I'm jealous.
>eating nutsishygddt
>>76749222Yes? I drink my tea and coffee with milk and I dont consider it breaking fast cause it's like a whole 50kcal over the day.
Fatty ContestAbuGarcia237.8
>>76749222yes, plain black coffee (no cream/sugar obvs), 0 cal tea and water are totally fine
>>76749235i have a theory that nuts are the most overestimated for calories because you honestly shit out most of it without digesting.
>>76748875>I was laying in bed for most of it feeling like I had the flu.This stuff blows me away. I'm 6'3'' and well over 300lbs, and I've done multi-day water fasts a couple of times. I never had any reaction like that, I just wanted to kill myself like any addict would when you take away his drugs.
202 lbs at 5'9", just started cutting yesterday. I need to drop at least 20 lbs, probably more like 25. Gonna try doing 36 hour fasts on Wednesday and Friday to speed things along.I'm fat and out of shape, but that means I'm in a great spot to also regain muscle. Anybody else been in this position?
>>76749044my unemployed friend hit me up and now we're going to go work out
It must feel so good, being that thin and having the ability to dress however you like. I wish I was this thin. The main problem is not even my diet, it is my will. I ask myself, just who the fuck am I getting thin for? People are all disgusting. Being near them make me sick. If you are good looking they hate you, if you are thin they hate you, if you are fat they hate you, if you are normal they hate you... they just fucking hate you. After mastering your body, you need to master your voice, you need charisma, you need to be social, you need connections, you need to be rich, you need to be a fucking perfect person and even then these assholes will find a way to hate you. I am 75kg, I don't have the will to go beneath 70. Its asinine.
>>76749315cutting is a term reserved for people who work out. you are a weak fatty trying to lose weight, which is most people in this thread. start lifting now if you can manage it.
Imagine being this thin. How would you feel? Anyone below 70kg? Do you feel like shit? Is it worth undereating for the sake of shitty people and high society?
>>76749347>>76749339i don't know where you're pasting this from, but baiting with it here isn't subtle enough
>>76749343I'm out of shape, not gay. I benched for the first time in over two years today and still managed 185 lbs 4x8. I pause squatted 315 yesterday. Thank you for your assistance in this matter.
>>76749284I know this is true because when I eat a full tub of unsalted peanuts I shit alot out undigested. But the protein:fat/calorie ratios are ass, and nuts are not good for cutting weight.
>>76749387>But the protein:fat/calorie ratios are assthis, it's mostly (healthy) fat and fuck all protein
>>76749397Aye they are good if you need calories and fat to fill your macros for the day. But for us fatties I don't think they are worth it.
>>76748237I just microwave most of the time. A LITTLE oil and salt on the skin and they come out crispy like baked potatoes.
>>76749372>hasn't worked out in two years>"i'm cutting"jej
>>76749420I'll cut you bitch.
>>76749372No you did not
Day 1 of super lock in>No snacks>Diet>No porn>No fap >ready daily>clean up daily>just be a sick cunt in generalJust got to do this everyday until Christmas and I'll be doing sweet.
>>76749356Not baiting, stop overanalyzing everything. The internet fried your brain. >>76749464Good. However I doubt any of it will help. If it did, some people would be happy. I see nothing out there but misery.
>>76749447My old PR singles were 330 on bench and 405 pause squat, it's not that crazy.I should hit my goal sometime in January, I'll post an update.
I've tried to lose weight most of my life, ive been obese since childhood. I was in these threads before like 7 years ago. Been here off and on. I've participated in fatty contest before. I tried keto. I tried intermittent fasting. Could not lose long term. Why? Because I crave food too much. I got straight As in school and a have a decent paying WFH job but I've never been able to put down the fucking fork or the soft drink. I found a journal I used in high school where I describe it as like a rabid rat banging at the sides of the inside of my brain demanding me to eat. As a lard veteran I highly recommend you look into tirzepatide or retatrutide. Tirz has brand name Mounjaro/Zepbound, Reta is still in clinical trials but you can buy the peptide from various sources and prepare it DIY as long as you research well. Simply put tirz ends my endless cravings for food. It makes me feel more full, and it makes healthier foods taste more palatable to me. See if your insurance is willing to cover it. If for some reason your doctor is unwilling to prescribe it, there are telehealth companies you can sign up to and basically say in a survey "yeah I'm fat and think about food too much" and you will get the prescription. Some insurance plans are covering semaglutide but not tirzepatide. Semaglutide (Ozempic/Wegovy) does work but isn't as effective in clinical trials and anecdotally, causes much worse side effects.Overall these medications are so life changing, it's like seeing what difficulty level people who never got fat have been playing on their whole life. That is genuinely how I believe things work, some people absolutely deal with stronger longer more intense cravings for food available in our modern world than others.
Before and after Down about 30lbs and about 70 more to go to be at my target (bmi of 24). So far so good my stomach is still not sagging so I don't think my loose skin will be that bad. We’re gonna make it bros.
>>76749347I wouldn't want to be that thin. My personal ultimate goal weight is 225, don't think I've been under that weight since middle school
>>76749487hell yea man, great progress. If you're working out don't forget to put in a few sets of 10 on neck and trap exercises at the end of your workout. It'll take a few months but the results will be well worth it
>>76749487Nice progress brother, hope you keep up the good work
>>76749479Nope, you're lying.
>>76747708Fatty ContestObiWanJabroni239.6
>>76749479Post body
>>76749482I saw something kind of comforting in the biggest loser documentary heh >if you’ve ever struggled with your weight, that is always going to be a monkey on your back You can let it control you or lock in and tell it what to do. Ultimately it does get easier. If you can go 2 weeks with a proper diet then you can go for years. It’s part of what’s alarming with the autists in these threads who are trying to eat like 800 cal/day, losing their shit about carbs, macrodosing caffeine etc. They’re just making their disordered eating worse. You simply have to learn how to take care of yourself and that does go beyond pure numbers. Ultimately nothing tastes as good as skinny feels but if you end up the guy who skips Thanksgiving dinner or who won’t go out to eat for a date or out to the bar with friends once in a while, what’s the point?
>>76749487Sorry bro but those tiddies are going to sag
>>76747958>Why don't people buy sugar-loaded alternatives with a much lower protein content when they're trying to lose weight?
>>76747758my girl is the same kek. thinks I'm "starving myself" meanwhile i'm in like a 700 calorie deficit. I think they just feel threatened that you're going to leave them once you get in shape
>>76749613>I think they just feel threatened that you're going to leave them once you get in shapeyou will, right?
>>76747954this is the way. the siggi's mixed berry & strawberry banana fuckin SLAPS. Can't believe it tastes as good as it does for the macros it has. Great high protein snack and plenty of probiotics as a bonus
>>76748135>checks google search trends in DC>your exact name comes up 50 timesit wasn't a dream anon...
>>76749210pair them with the trash can cuz they're a waste of fuckin calories
>>76749505>If you're working outProbably will soon enough, I'm only doing bike for 2-3h a week right now. A guy at the gym told me that I have a pretty good frame( my shoulders don't really have any fat right now) and that I should use it. >>76749541yeah, I had gyno since I'm a teenager, so these titties are getting chopped off, loose skin or not.
>started paying attention to what clothes I buy now that im skinny fat >buy an L sweater from Banana Republic >wow this fits perfectly >buy an L sweater from JCrew without trying it on because L fits perfectly>it doesnt fucking fitI thought sizing was universal wtf
>>76749722going from 2XLs to Ms has been the best feeling of my life apart from the last time I had sex (6 years ago)
>>76749722the best is when you buy two shirts in the same size from the same brand and one fits perfectly but the other is too small.
>>76749624I mean she's been attractive the whole time and never left me when I got fat so I can't do that to her kek
>>76749722yeah this is the most annoying shit ever. i also buy j crew and even between different product lines of shirts from the same brand fit wildly differently. i have 2 different large shirts, one baggy and one that's borderline tight on me. so retarded
>>76749734>black shirt fits fine>grey shirt is tight as fuckliterally how the fuck does this happen lmao
>went from 5XB to 4XBwe're making progress bros...
>hit the elliptical machine>resistance 15/20>do 20 minutes>calorie counter shows me I burned 400 kcalwhy lie about this? what are they getting out of those blown up numbers?
It's not about how you look. It's about how you function.
>>76749734>>76749744The same happened to me. With pants too
>>76749802so fat fucks don't get demotivated and stop using it before the return window closes
>>76749802>I burned 400 kcalWhile 400 insane, a very out of shape person killing himself on a bike for 20 min can burned a lot of kcal.
>>76749812In a world where the halo effect is real, looks are functional.
>be 119 pounds yesterday>eat 600 calories in total yesterday>wake up today>120 pounds todayokay
>>76749862YOUARENOTFAT
>>76749863he's 4'8" give him a break
>>76749719If you do decide to lift just understand that while cutting you want to do low volume. Full body 2x per week (strong lifts is a decent enough program, I would do only 3x5 instead of 5x5 for sets and reps for you while cutting), 3x only if you want to and are recovered is plenty as a beginner on a cut. Low weights and focus on form first. Assuming you goal is mainly fat loss prioritize cardio, low intensity steady state (a pace where you can still hold a conversation but not comfortably) and generally the more the better. Keep protein high for satiety and to preserve whatever muscle you already have. Keep up the good work.
>>76749860If you function well you'll end up looking good as a bonus.
>>76749863I just have abysmal fat distribution. I have to lose more weight for my face to stop looking round.
>>76749875>If you do decide to lift just understand that while cutting you want to do low volumecan you expand on why this is?
No bacon, egg, cheese on a roll this morning...Day 1 of an old school no-sugars, no-carbs, only healthy fats diet. 6 small healthy meals/snacks day and a lean and green (6oz meat and salad) at night. Not drinking much alcohol at all, so to quit altogether is no big deal. Back to Sashimi, and NO FOOD AT ALL AFTER 8pm.I’ve been feeling like ass since putting on 40lbs over the last 2 years…Lower back fucked up, can’t bend straight over to tie my sneakers without breathing hard, feels like I’m laying face first on a basketball if I try to get a tan on my fat ass…A high weight of 250 today folks. It will only go down from here.ANYONE CAN DO IT. Takes will power and the desire to feel healthy overriding the desire to eat food that tastes GREAT. I quit smoking and (backmin the day) blow…cold turkey. Just stopped at will.If you follow this plan and get your body into “fat burning mode” (takes about 2 weeks of hardcore diet adjustment) WITH NO CHEATING…and the weight will fall off of you like a terminal AIDS patient.(No offense AIDS patients….)Goal- 210lbs…PS- I cover my fatness up well. Being 6’ 1” helps big time.
>>76749898lmao ngmi
>>76749903Sorry son but I served in the Air Force... where did you serve except mommys basement??? Sit your LIBTARD ass down
>>76749898oh no, I ate a pastry with my coffee this morning, I guess my body won't be burning fat
my diabete doctor says I need ozempic now :(.
>>76749909Ngmi fat shit
>212lbs*wheeze*
>>76749909the chAir Force you say?
>>76749913just fucking take itthat shit is the braindead solution to weight loss, be glad he's prescribing it to you. do you really want to be fucking hungry all the time?
>>76747919i had those today. they all came out at once though, it hurt.
>>76749895Sure.You're at a deficit which is going to impact your recovery. Generally the main goal of lifting while cutting is to preserve muscle. You do not need much stimulation to the muscle to preserve it at all as opposed to grow it. Moreover, for fat loss your main focus is on diet first then low intensity long period cardio second. Adding in a high volume workout that keeps you in the gym for a other 2 hrs 4x per week is a recipe for burnout and ultimately failing your main goals. Willpower is a finite resource so use it accordingly. While yes you can get into recomping (cut fat while building muscle) with calorie and macro cycling I don't think the additional complication makes sense for a first time lifter who's goal is mainly fat loss (my assumption maybe I am wrong). Also, if you are a full on beginner I would wager that you gain muscle even with very low volume since your muscles are used to basically zero stimulation. Another point, most studies on muscle growth seem to point to the fact that volume is less important than overall intensity. If you do 2 sets flat the fuck out you will get more stimulation then someone who does 6 sets half assed (most gym goers). Like I said though your focus at first should be on form, then intensity. And intensity takes learning. Learning your limits, like what does each lift to true failure feel like for me? Failure isn't form breaking down, failure is failing the lift. Then you learn what does 1 rep before failure feel like? What about 2 reps? Then you can do your sets with 1 or 2 reps before failure, which is fucking INTENSE. Most people usually have 5 or more reps before failure and will beliefs their set was "intense" (it wasn't). So that's its own skill that comes with experience and discipline.
>>76749913oh yes, suck that pharmaceutical titty for the rest of your life
>>76748915Man dominos is my favorite cheat meal…2 large pizzas and some chicken bites mmmmmm
72 more days. 15 more pounds.W-We can do it bros. I feel so tired and hungry all the time, but we're there.
I've always been a huge condiment user, ever since I was a kid I used to drown my food in catsup, bbq, ranch, sweet and sour you name it. I was told they were basically little to meaningless calories and thought nothing of it. Fast forward 30 years and I'm learning a few spoonfuls of ranch or bbq have as many calories as a burger patty. It's outrageous, honestly I bet 20% of all my accumulated weight over the years comes from condiments. I'm trying to find better alternatives, using lots of seasonings and even trying some foods without any condiments at all. It's been hit or miss but I really missed ranch in particular. I've been experimenting and here is my latest attempt. First I found some low calorie store bought ranches, some tasted like shit, others were ok but they were all loaded with random shit I'd rather not be eating and still had a good amount of calories. But the other day I saw someone talking about ranch packets, I had forgotten these things existed, 0 calories just the flavor. The previous store bought ranch alternative I tried had a yogurt base but with oils and other things as well. So I thought what if I combine a ranch packet with some yogurt and see what happens. Mixed one packet with 2 cups of greek yogurt and about 3/4 cup cold water to get the consistency closer to the real thing. It's in the fridge now to set up and let the flavors meld. But tasting the fork I mixed it with was promising. It's super tangy though, not sure if greek yogurt was the best idea. Going to try normal yogurt next time and see but I think this might work. If it does it would be a life saver. So many less calories and also the ones that are there are more nutritious. I'll post results after I use it making some gyros.
>>76749978get a food scale so you don't have to scoop yogurt into a measuring cup like that
>>76749929>>76747919Those are healthy bro love my pebble poops.>>76749941This anon is mad jealous.
Fatty contestBiker Scout265 lbs
>>76749995Bro just eat lean meat and vegetables, you will never be hungry.
>>76749994Shit I have one but I didn't even think about it nice catch.
>>76750015Post your before and current body so I can judge if your advice is worth listening to.
>>76749932Thank you so much for this. I have next to no muscle but I've been lifting during my weightloss from 310 to 180, I haven't noticeably put on any muscle but I haven't been trying very hard because all I've been mainly focusing on is caloric deficit and 3 hours of walking a day.
>>76749978>bbqyou can just add the bbq spices, peprika, red pepper, garlic and onion. without the sugar its just spicy meat though
>>76750047I need that sweet though, bought a bottle of sugar free sweet baby rays. Going to make some slow cooked pulled pork with it later this week. I'm not expecting great things but we'll see.
fatty contesthungrybeaver136.3 kg179 cm
>>76750028Not him but can vouch for the strategy, down 150lbs in 9 months
>>76750028>>76750067Current
>>76750072well done bro
>>76750028I'm not at my goal yet but sure
Any other fatties experience this?I have sores(?) like this on some parts of my body. This is on the overhang of my belly but they're in other places too like my man boobs.Most of them don't hurt but these have started to bother me.What are they do you think? Maybe friction/chafe issue given their locations? Is there anything i can do to soothe or get rid of them besides continuing to lose weight?Temp link because while it's not explicit I don't want to subject you to my ugly body if you don't want to see ithttps://litter.catbox.moe/gyend2v1b8cad1xb.jpeg
>>76750101Chaffing keep your fold dry. Picture looks like ingrown hairs but I'm no dermatologist.
>>76750046Happy to help!If your goal is fat loss don't worry about putting on muscle you have plenty of time for that once you reach a goal weight then eat at maintenance for a couple weeks then increase to a modest surplus (no more than 500 additional cal imo, you want muscle gains not fat). For now, lift for fun, to learn technique, and to learn intensity. Then you'll be in a great position to put on muscle once finished cutting. Best of luck dude
>>76750072that's fucking awesome bro, great work
>>76750082Good work.
>>76750082>>76750067>>76750072great work :D
Been about a year so figured I'd post my progress. Started sometime last year at 6'0 225. Unfortunately didn't take any reference photos until I was down to 205 (left picture). Right picture is from a few days ago at 170lbs (shitty crop job I know). Tried recomp for a while so that's why it took over a year to lose 55lbs. Pretty happy where I am now, been lifting for about 6 months. Long way to go but at least I look somewhat acceptable. WAGMI ANONS KEEP GRINDING
>>76750159Good work can see arms and chest got more musculature and belly smaller. Thick solid tight. Keep it up braza.
>>76750082lookin great brother. desu all you gotta do is get those gym gains in and you'll have a great physique. you've got a good frame
>>76750181Thanks. The worst part was seeing myself go from 1.5/2.5/3/4 to less than 1/2/3/4, but I'm planning on getting it all back, and some more, once I'm done.
>>76750194yeah I'm currently going through the same thing kek. don't worry though, it all comes back pretty quickly once you're able to eat normally again. definitely going to come back even stronger/leaner!
>>76750201hell yeah brother
wow so some ppl here actually do make it
>haven't eaten all day>make some baked potatoes cause saw anons praising it to heaven and back>200g>184kcals>62kcals olive oil>15kcal ketchup>full to bursting at last, i truly see.too bad about the macros...>>76748430i'm asking how do (you) prepare it. i.e. your secret recipe
>>76750159damn you look so much better, nice
>>76750207i made it once, but didn't stick with it and gained it back after 2 years like a fat retard.
>go to a vitamin shop to get some whey powder>find this shit >it's a complete meal replacement, shit load of carbs and protein>600 calories per scoop (says 2.5 scoops per serving lmao)
>>76749347Great, I will be back there by the end of the week>>76750072>>76750082>>76750159GJ fellas
>>76749978There's a big variety among condiments. I actively avoid most American stuff, just because of all of the HFCS.But for example, Stubb's BBQ has 108cal per 100g, but Sweet Baby Ray's BBQ has 204cal per 100g. And you're only really using maybe 15g at at a time.I honestly don't think condiments are that bad.That said, mayonnaise is my kryptonite. It just makes chicken and rice taste so much better, but the calories are nuts.
>>76750224these are for bodybuilders and athletes trying to consume thousands of calories in their bulking up phase
>>76750242Or just for people who are underweight and trying to gain weight. I know it sounds crazy to anybody here because eating is so easy for us, but there are a lot of people who really struggle to gain any kind of weight.
>>76750219well ur here again so that means ur getting urself back on track, if u did it once u can do it again
>>76750245wish I could swap bodies with one of those scrawny guys for a few months so I could fix them
>>76750226this is my goal level of thinness
>>76750251Just talk to them and try to help them. Same deal with anybody who's going through a tough time.I come here regularly even though I'm down to about 15%BF, I just genuinely want you guys to succeed.
ok guys 42 hours into my fast, feel a tiny bit dizzy but fine overall, stomach still a bit rumbly but staying occupied to distract from itHow long should I keep this going for? I was thinking 72 hours or even 84And more importantly what do I eat when I break it? Was thinking some rice, scrambled egg, and a sausage for breakfast but is that not good?
>>76750247yeah im already down 27 pounds in 27 days (had a couple bad days)
>>76750281?? ur losing a pound a day? how tf
>>76750219This is my third time. I think I've figured it out so it doesn't happen again hopefully.
>>76749539>It’s part of what’s alarming with the autists in these threads who are trying to eat like 800 cal/day, losing their shit about carbs, macrodosing caffeine etc. They’re just making their disordered eating worse.Necessary part of the process for most and as it helps them learn while trying to speedrun. The problem comes when it is time to slow down and actually live like you describe. Like >>76750293>>76750257I kind of fucked up the bulk by dirtying it a bit too much without working out (life got in the way) so trying to get back down to around 13% bf, this is like 15-16% bf. YOU CAN get there.>>76750287That is totally doable, I can do it when I eat below my bmr and stay somewhat active on my feet.
>>76750287alot of fasting and staying in a calorie deficit on my re-feed days. also walking at least an hour a day.when i re-feed i normally just have chicken and rice (1400 cals) so even on the re-feed days i will still be losing weight.
>>76750293the more we fail the more we learn so it gets easier for us to stay on track and keep it off eventually.
>>76750319>The problem comes when it is time to slow down and actually live like you describe100%, this is the most important part. You have to teach yourself how to maintain healthy habits that are sustainable for the rest of your life. I'd rather take 5 years to reach a goal that I can keep for my whole life than to spend 5 months speedrunning something that I'll lose again a year or two later.
Is the meme about extended fasts reducing loose skin true
>>76750340Sure
>>76750319That's like 25% at least.Not to downplay his achievements, because it's still really impressive.
>>76750340eh i wouldnt know i never had loose skin, but i would guess dry fasting would since it eats more water.
The final product, overall I'm on the right track but not quite there. The ratio was off, I used too much yogurt couldn't taste the ranch very well. The consistancy was perfect though, I'll cut the yogurt by about 30% next time and also try normal instead of greek and see what difference it makes. I think it's going to work though, pretty happy with it.
>>76750245buddy of mine has that issue. some medical condition that means his stomach is paralyzed. poor dude is 140lbs soaking wet but is stronger than me lmao. can't gain mass but definitely can still gain strength
>>76750344The camera does not pick up the loose skin and veins well, I store almost all of my fat in my midsection
>>76750389forgot pic
>>76750344doesn't 25% seem a bit high considering his collar bone and shoulder bones are extremely visible?
>>76750101It's not just friction or chafing. It's friction and chafing on top of sweat from that area that grinds it into the subcutaneous layer of skin.
>>76750360fuck bud that looks pretty fire. sure as hell beats my ground chicken and rice diet
>>76750360Looks good but why did you cum on it
>>76750442Wasting protein is illegal. Gotta recycle to the save the planet.
>>76750360Is that egg, hot dogs and chicken? Romaine, tomatoes, onion and cabbage with your homemade ranch? Sounds strange but tasty. The tartness of Greek can be intense but you get used to it. If you can spare the calories a bit of mayo or even light mayo goes a long way toning it down
>>76750360Tortilla a little white, could use more fire. If you have a gas stove you can toss is straight over the burner. Lookin good tho. I do a similiar thing with Tzatziki over Ranch.
>>767504741 scrambled egg, 2 hot links sliced up and some leftover gyro meat. Then half a roma tomato, some sliced onion and some salad mix. The meat was enough for two wraps I just used half of it. >>76750481The tortilla was one of those weird low carb versions, texture was a little off from the real thing but it worked. I just heated it in the pan I cooked the meat for a few seconds. But next time I should do more it was a bit bland.
>>76750488>low carb versionsI could never stomach that stuff. ~150kcal ain't that much for getting to eat actual food.
>>76750194Try cutting volume in half to get your lifts back up. Also try reverse pyramid training, 2 heavy sets should be enough to maintain and regain strength. Best of luck.
>>76750280> rice, scrambled egg, and a sausagesounds fine, not too much rice, you want to reduce carbs if you're fasting to keep burning fat
carbs are frens
going on 33 hours fasting, still strong
>>76750595good stuff buddy
>>76750596I woke up pretty hungry and had a VERY stressful day with a lot of drama, that seemed to have completely decimated my hunger and replaced it with a constantly above resting heart rate
TRIPLE CHICKEN SOUPCHICKEN BROTHCHICKEN BREASTEGGSSHRIMPLE AS
>>76748326Poke a few holes in them so they don’t explode then in the oven at 350 for an hour maybe more if Im hungry now i microwave them 3-4 minutes then in the oven for 20-30 minutes
>>76749416Yeah microwave is fine but i always finish them in the oven nothing beats a nice oven baked russet potato with crispy skin
Extremely fatty 30 bmi question: how do you work out when all that fat is moving around and hurts after a while? Like I'd jog on the spot and my stomach would go up and down and eventually hurt, so I'd stop. Currently doing 1 hr elliptical everyday. I hate this shit so much, would a compression garment work? Are there exercise routines for actual fatties that take into account the fat physics and not just for tight gymbros?
>>76750672Walk until you get down to about 25-26 bmi and it'll be much more comfortable to jog.
>>76750672track steps start with 10k move up with increments of 1k whenever you get comfortable with the current number. cut down from 30 to 26-27 before i started other forms of cardio comfortably.
>>76750672Dont jog or run to lose weight when you are overweight. Try walking or swimming instead, its better longterm for you and your knees.
>>76750672The first thing to consider is that diet is MUCH more important than exercise for weight loss. You can't outrun a bad diet, and I say that as someone who will go out and jog 20km before work. Exercise makes you hungry, which without proper discipline will make you gain weight. Exercise is obviously good, but try to treat it as a separate goal to your weight loss with different progress metrics.For strength, you're actually going to be a lot better than the average beginner, because your extra fat probably also comes with some extra muscle. Something like Stronglifts 5x5 is a good starting point.For cardio, you don't need to run. Even walking is a great exercise for beginners, and it's really functional in how it directly improves your daily life. Whether you're walking inside or outside, try to build up your speed and/or distance over time.Treadmills and ellipticals are good because you can measure and fine-tune your progress. Having a smartwatch helps too, because you can choose a heart rate and then set a speed and incline which lets you maintain that. They also gamify it a lot, which makes it fun to track your progress.Another thing that can make it fun is getting out with local events. Check if you have a Parkrun near you. It's a weekly 5km walk where they measure your time, so you can try to improve each time you go. It feels a bit like a race, so you can have some friendly competition with the other people around your level too.
>Breakfast: Monster Zero Ultra>Lunch: 800 calorie meal of whatever I want>Dinner: Monster Zero Ultra>Dessert: Monster Zero Ultra>Snack: Sugar free chewing gum
>>76750672I used to work out a lot during college and always wore a compression shirt/compression shorts like the Under Armour brand. Kept everything nice and tight the whole time. I'd recommend that, tuck it in under your workout shirt (or just wear it by itself)
>>76750672if I was a 30 bmi fatty I would be at home starving, not exercisingstop eating
>>76750214i spoke too soon.the filling effect doesn't last long>>76750659you do them whole? how do you eat them? directly with a spoon? peel and mash them? i cut them up like french fries. they're not as good as french fries but they're good enough.
Fatty ContestStumpage330lbs6'0"
since when is 30 bmi considered that fat? its only 5 points higher than the healthy range
i feel like im missing something, isn't Celery goated for weight loss?a pound of it is only like 100 calories, and it gives you dick gains
>>76750828yes? are you wondering why were not all eating celery?
>>76750823>muh bmianything above 20% bf is fat
>>76750828it's rabbit food
>>76750828Celery is amazing!You just smear it with some peanut butter, dip it in some melted chocolate, and... Oh, right.
>>76750828>i feel like im missing somethingyeah, fiber is terrible for you and celery tastes like nothing (because it's not human food)
>>76750828dont take too much fiber, also celery is just water and fiber.just go for rice and chicken. cannot get fat off of rice and chicken unless you just eat too much of it.
>>76750891>>76750896how much fiber do guys consume?
>>76750896>Cannot get fat... Unless you eat too muchThanks for the sage advice.
>>76750672incline walking on the treadmill is way better for fatties than jogging. save the jogging for when you're a lower bmi so you don't absolutely trash your joints. with the right incline / speed setting you can burn just as many, if not more calories than you would jogging. and it's way lower impact (also less movement for your fat)captcha w00ka kek
>>76750908i just consume the fiber in rice mainly (and some fruits) i don't wanna over do it on fiber because all i hear about is people not being able to shit, or having painful shits.
>>76750912hehe yeah. you can only get fat by eating too much, or eating foods that aren't good for you and mess up your metabolism making it easier to gain weight and don't leave you full.
>>76750908zero.I am not joking.
>>76750915but the minimum daily recommended fiber is 25 grams...
>>76750823Bmi is an almost useless statistic. You can be shredded 170lbs with the same bmi as a 170lb skinnyfat
>>76750888i like how it tastes raw, do people really need dips for it? cant you just use hummus or something that has low calories too?>>76750891>>76750896i thought fiber was extremely good for you
>Sober October, Day 21SW: 244 CW: 238 Thanksgiving Goal: 230 Christmas Goal: 225Today I ate:.75 cup of greek yogurt1 ounce of blueberries2 ounces of raspberries3 ounces of watermelon4 ounces of honeydew melon1 protein bar1 piece of chicken stuffed with cheese and broccoli3 ounces of steamed broccoli2 cups of homemade chicken chili2 ounces of sesame crackers5 cups of black coffee64 fl.ounces of diet pepsi1500kcal. I will do better tomorrow
>>76750928>hummus >low calorie
I had 667 calories today, and even fewer yesterday, so if I don't wake up tomorrow a little lighter I am going to be mad
>>76750933we'll be waiting for your update
>>76750908Usually around 30-40g, although I do keto and a lot of the keto bread/tortillas have a shitton of fiber in them
>>76750942how often do you fart?i've tried to increase my fiber intake but i hate feeling gassy and bloated
>>76750933Sounds like a sensible and sustainable diet, which you definitely aren't going to rebound from in one week.
>>76750952not often actually, the poops are pretty slick and easy to pass due to all the fat I'm consuming too
900 calories per day is the golden zone for weight loss. When I was doing 1800 calories per day I was losing very slowly and over many days, at 1,500 I was losing weight every other day or maintaining. At 900 I lose weight every single day, doesn't matter how or what I eat, every day I am guaranteed to wake up lighter than the day before. This continues from 100 kg down to 75 kg and only slows when you approach 70 kg. Why are you not doing the sub 1000 calorie a day challenge?
>>76750957I want to do the same, you know what next week is right? A little suffer now pleasure later
>>76750958lucky youi'm jealous
>>76750957I fear you are unfamiliar with my game
>>76750962or, how about this0 (zero) calories per dayyou're GUARANTEED to go down every day
>>76750962because at 1600kcal I rarely feel hungerlosing weight feels like waiting for a movie or game to come out
>>76750962>To build healthy habits>To retain my muscle mass>To not wreck my hormones>To have enough energy for a happy life
>>76750982>>To build healthy habitsstop shoving your face with fucking pizza, not hard nigger this isn't some herculean task>muh habits!!!!put down the fucking corn dogs and eat some sausage instead>>To retain my muscle massyou lose muscle mass during prolonged periods of low caloric intake regardless of your diet, even on a moderate cut (500cals less a day) you will still lose muscle. Unless you're a complete newbie bodybuilder, in which case you will gain muscle as soon as you hit a gym no matter what, even in extreme deficits>>To not wreck my hormonesbut you're already a faggot with a wrecked ass>>To have enough energy for a happy lifeyou can be happy when you stop being a fat piece of shit
>lose 200 lbs>lose all my hairYeah this is great I don't mind this I'm fine
>>76751003uh try the Chinese remedy of dirt on the scalp or whatever? its all i know for hair growth.
>>76751001peak ngmi energy lol
>>76751001Grumpypants over here lmao go eat a string cheese or something, you’ll feel better
>>76750962You're not wrong. This is my routine: >>76750748But ngl, it would be bleak without the caffeine/energy drinks. If someone is opposed to stimulant abuse I can see why they would want to do a slower deficit.
>>76748875Explain these long fasts to me pls. Why not just exercise and eat healthy.
>>76750965to be fair I'm a month into strict keto and I've only had one blowout diarrhea shit, the rest have been normal
>>76751010Fin and minGiving it a year to see how it goes before cueballing
>>76750405Would baby powder help do you think?
>>76751027NTA but I am over here looking at /ck/
>>76751034Fasting is objectively, scientifically better for hunger levels and sustainability. The reason most fat people inevitably relapse/regain the weigth back is because they do the normie CICO/3 meals a day thing instead of fasting. Keto probably works too but you might as well kill yourself if you're going to live without carbs.
>>76750340anecdotally people say its helpsthe autophagy from fasting should help but I don't think it's been proven yetthis guys videos about it fasting and loose skin are greathttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhS_-i8N7vY
>>76751045the reason why people relapse is because they dont even understand cico, most people are sold retarded 'rewards' schemes like weightwatchers, or slimming world, or some other group like that, the general population thinks if you want to lose weight you should go to the gym and go on a treadmill for an hour
Doesn't fasting cause GH spikes which means you don't really lose lean mass
>>76751064yeah that's why i prefer fasting.
>>76750962>>76750978what this guy says. i make sure to eat 1200 at a minimum, and allow myself to go up to 1700 if necessary. most days are 1400-1600 and i feel zero discomfort while losing weight.
>>76751060yeah 100%. if done properly CICO is foolproof. problem is most people don't do it properly. I can see why fasting works for some people because its literally impossible to fuck up (as long as you stick to it).
>>76751034You burn fat fast when you force your body to switch to fat as fuel for your brain (ketones) when you starve yourself 30+ hours. The glycogen that lives in your liver and muscles is depleted and your body has no choice but to burn fat to stay alive. Not only that but once you cross into the 48+ range your body starts to exterminate damaged and potentially cancerous cells in your body since it isn't preoccupied digesting food. There are also waves of pleasant adderal-type highs that give you naturally heightened mental clarity and focus.
>>76751034just burns fat faster, and for some people its more comfortable since some get less hunger, or no hunger in my case from doing it.also i still exercise and try to eat at calorie deficit. i lose about a pound a day.
>>76751202>>76751202>>76751202
>>76750931Nice one. Consistency is the first step to conquering the scales. I need to take a leaf out of your book. Im trying to volume eat, but also low cals, Im trying to maintain some sort of normal digestion but every day its a different challenge for my colon.
>>76751039Yes very much so
>>76750214There is an amino acid present in potatoes that actually specifically triggers satiety. It's so effective at this that it ranks as the number one most satiating food when tested amongst people, even against high protein foods. There's even weight loss products that use potato extracts of this amino acid for its appetite-suppressing effect.
>>76751001everything he said was right. you are piling on stress hormones, nuking your metabolic function and condemning yourself to eventual failure being a sub 1000 cal a day retard. What happens when you lose the weight? You magically discover balanced healthy eating? I would bet any you use the 900 cal excuse to eat shit food too.
