If so, is it really the ideal diet for gains and stressfree living?
It's a fad diet for retarded manchildren with weak jawline who didn't ever learn how to cook and chew food properly.They always abuse steroids, because not only are they incapable of basic human tasks, but their genetics aren't capable of producing basic male hormones.
>>76748195Fucking vegans. Can't believe I used to be one, but the propaganda was strong >>76748179Not stress-free living, but it makes cooking / shopping / meal prep a lot easier. If you can stick with it, you will also lose and after maintain weight a lot easier. I would however add eggs, some cheese, and some fruits.
>>76748199>muh vegansI accept your concession, manbaby.>Easier = betterGet your testosterone checked, you might be eligible for government subsidized TRT.
i did it for a month, felt ok but shit gets boring fast
>>76748199You were a vegan and now you like carnivore? You might just be an easily-propagandised NPC.
>>76748219You look at guys who aren't DYEL and what they eat, and it turns out that they eat just normal average (non-USA) food, kek.
>>76748179Meme diet that will fuck you up sooner or laterEat your vegetables and fruits
>>76748248>fruitsSugar will kill you faster than anything. Modern fruits are a meme
>>76748252Modern processed food has almost no real sugar because unlike substitutes, it was too healthy.
>is it really the ideal diet for gains and stressfree living?all the girls I've seen that are carnivore are also hot unlike the vegans that look like a 25 year old that smokes 10 packs of cigs every day, so I'd rather follow what the hotties are doinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6mACElRrfEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRj0hrJA6oY
>>76748280>the ad has hot girls, the product is le good>>76748219You might be onto something.
>>76748284>>the ad has hot girls, the product is le goodunironically true thoughbeitjust as anecdotes I remember right now>when pc hardware used hot waifus as marketing the products were better>when cars used hot models for marketing the cars were better
>>76748219Might be, yeah, but at least I tried out a bunch of diets. From vegetarian to vegan, OMAD, intermittent fasting / "warrior diet", powder slop (think: onions), protein shakes, "healthy" diets with oats or smoothies in the morning and god knows what else, it all fades in comparison to how easy and natural a mostly ketogenic diet feels. Better mood, better weight, easy to stick to.
>>76748179I've been doing it for about 5 months now, I started pretty fat and I've lost ~20 pounds, gained significant muscle, and all of my lifts have improved. Skin has gotten better too. I've been having a hard time following it though because it's so restrictive. I'm currently getting in a cheat meal a week (usually fried chicken or burgers).
>>76748195>didn't ever learn how to cook and chew food properlycooking and eating meat isn't cooking and chewing foodt. retarded frog
>>76748309Meat requires 0 chewing, carnivores (animals, not humancel LARPers) don't chew meat at all, they tear flesh and swallow it, they also don't cook it, don't call yourself carnivore if you aren't one, retard.
Could it be that we have 3 sets of very wide and strong molars with strong jaws that keep getting smaller and weaker as we get better at cooking and processing our food, because our ancestors did in fact eat something else than just meat?
>>76748318>our ancestors did in fact eat something elseyeah, they ate mammoths
>>76748252My grand parents and their ancestors have lived for decades on farms eating a balanced diet
>>76748511ah yes because a few hundred years is enough time to evolutionarily adapt to a carbohydrate and grain based diet. Just ignore the previous 250,000 years of evolution.
>>76748518Vegetarians live longer and healthier than carnivores like you.
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>>76748179You can't really fully commit to a fad. People will say it's not a fad, but we all know that it is. A lot of the prominent carnivore grifters, all of which sell supplements, by the way, have reintroduced fruits and vegetables and other foods into their diet, because regardless of the fact that it causes horrendous side effects long-term, it's incredibly monotonous, and human beings are a cultural species. We like variation and flavor.The hallmark of fad diets is extreme restriction. People who eat low-fat, vegans, low carb, or people who adhere to religious tenants of diets, will not make a big deal about having a slice of birthday cake every once in a while, or a few squares of dark chocolate, or an animal food once in a blue moon. The thing about carnivore is that it's literally an all or nothing diet, and it's a historical. Even if it were true that human beings ate mostly meat, or almost exclusively meat in the past, they didn't actively avoid plant foods. They ate whatever they could get their hands on. The math doesn't work out any way you slice it.
>>76748252Can you explain why every single study ever conducted showed that eating more fruit or adding fruit on top of a diet that was already consumed even in diabetic people, improved health markers and mortality outcomes?
>>76748518How many years would you say is a reasonable timeframe for an evolutionary diet or lifestyle adaptation to occur? This isn't a gotcha. I'm genuinely curious.
>>76748595At least 100,000, and with some evolutionary pressure.The problem is that bread and grains haven't been around for long enough to have any serious evolutionary adaptation in humans, and technology is advancing so fast that medical breakthroughs remove evolutionary pressure to adapt to the diet. The biggest problem with a non seasonal, constant yearly high carbohydrate diet is that they're mostly devoid of nutrients and inherently fattening, but since the human body is built like an oversized dumpster diving racoon you can go decades without seeing any major problems (as long as you get the bare minimum amount of nutrition from meat). You'll get fat, but in modern times that's not a serious obstacle to reproductive success, and even if it does become such a problem, we have modern medicine to fix that (ozempic / mounjaro). So there's no evolutionary pressure to eat a natural diet.
>>76748179>doing a retarded meme diet instead of just eating a variety of healthy and delicious foodsishygddtwhy do people like to overcomplicate this shit? just eat a steak with some potatoes and veggies. eat some chicken with fried rice and veggies. eat shellfish with some pasta and veggies. the most delicious option is also the most healthy. its like god was trying to make this as easy as possible for you and you're overthinking it.
>>76748518Humans and their ancestors have been eating an omnivorous diet for hundreds of thousand years
>>76748632how many years have we been eating bread and ricefruits and meat != donuts and pizza
>>76748535>vegan>70 years oldSays nothing about vegetarianism.
>you didnt evolve to eat eat this food!!! you're gonna die if you eat it!!!!nigga nothing evolved to eat any food. its just the things that COULD eat the food carried on living and thriving BY eating it. if you're too much of a weak pussy to be able handle eating some bread or rice, maybe its for the good of the gene pool that you die off. the rest of us will carry on eating a normal balanced diet with a large variety of foods, including delicious grains, while thriving.
>>76748813>while thrivingthe obesity, heart disease, and alzheimers rates don't seem to suggest that but go aheadin fact please eat as little meat as possible, that's a totally healthy and natural diet. I want lower beef prices.
>>76748295when will you eat normal and stop being a retard?
>>76748813>normal balanced dietMeaningless NPC buzzword.
>>76748820yes, the people who overeat to the point of obesity are the people included in the group of people who i described as 'too much of a pussy to be able to handle eating some bread or rice'. and dont worry anon, im eating plenty of meat too. im just not such a faggot that i need to subscribe to some meme diet that says i cant ever eat potatoes or rice or vegetables.
>>76748295Based and tryingshit-pilled. Imagine not just trying stuff
>>76748839make sure you take a trip to mcdonalds 2x a week and get your weekly doses of hydrogenated basedbean oil and tertiary butylhydroquinone while you're at it!Don't want to be a meme dieter, now do you? gotta eat like a normal human being.
>>76748838its a buzzword for people who arent so retarded that they know to just eat normal meals with a mixture of meats, fish, vegetables, dairy, and carbs. do you need me to post some easy recipes for you anon? maybe a beef stir fry? or a seafood pasta dish? how about a hearty chicken sandwich? or are those foods to scary and complicated for you?
>>76748866passive aggressiveness is very female coded
>>76748862oooh, now i get it. you're an american. that's why you think "normal food" refers to McSlop, instead of recognising that it refers to, y'know, a normal fucking home cooked meal. The rest of the world has figured this out, why can't americans? genuine question.
>>76748179been doing it for 4 months and i feel like im 16-20 again (28 y/o). feels pretty great, gonna keep goingalso you get to trigger retards who think (1) presence of 1 enzyme for carbs means its optimal for us and (2) ignore our digestive similarities to lions, vultures and wolves and (3) fiber is 'necessary'
>>76748868I like it when they bitch at me like that, it confirms to me that I'm likely to be right.That, combined with name-calling, are the hallmarks of a midwit or low IQ person.
>>76748179Yes. For the first month or so I had quite an upset stomach and often felt carb cravings. My shits were no fun. But once I got over the carb addiction I started to feel great. Mental clarity, high energy, rarely hungry, and more strength.
>>76748918the irony in this comment is great
>>76748588>Can you explain why (((science))) studies paid for by agricultural companies say their products are good?Keep believing everything you read goy.
it doesn't even take a genius to figure this shit out>bread / rice / pasta / nuts are crushed up and processed seeds>seeds are literally the part of a plant that plants want you to eat the least>somehow eating this is completely the same as eating fruits, the part of a plant they most want you to eatbut yeah you're just a pussy or a weak bitch or something if you don't want to eat glyphosate soaked rice that's banned in like 99% of the countries in the world except americait's a totally balanced and healthy food that humans have been eating forever.
>carnivore-tards are terrified of this image
do you niggas seriously think arnold was never eating rice, fruits, or veggies?
>>76748951I don't really give a shit what arnold was eating because I'm not taking trenbolone and HGH
>>76748930Okay
>>76748955thats the problem with you guys, nothing is ever good enough for you. if a study comes out that says fruits and veggies are good for you, its sponsored by the agricultural industry and the jews. if a fit person says fruits and veggies are good for you, they're either lying or on steroids or both. if a 120 year old grandma says she did it eat by eating whole grains and fruit, she's lying about her age and her diet. you've already made up your minds, and so you just choose to ignore the endless evidence that shows how eating fruits, vegetables, and whole grains in addition to meat and dairy can be highly beneficial. i guess its fine, its your choice, but you're just choosing to nerf yourself so hard both in terms of making social gains that you can get from bonding with other people over great food, and in terms of muscle and health gains that you can get from a varied diet. we're trying to help you, trying to open your eyes to realise that not everything is a jewish conspiracy, but you simply dont want to be helped.
>>76748943>weakness on a plateCattle food.
>>76748973its always bad faith arguments and strawmenI don't think fruits are bad for youI'm not even going to bother responding to the rest of your post, comparing arnold's diet to what the optimal human diet should be is retarded because he's fucking taking a gram of testosterone a week
>>76748976post a picture of a meal you enjoy
>>76748973Or maybe grains and vegetables are actually bad for you.
>>76748983here's a japanese buffet I went to a few weeks ago.>unlimited chicken / shrimp / steak from the hibachi section>unlimited sashimi from the sushi section (just take the fish off the rice)
>>76748995amorphous brown muck with bits that you have to pick off like a toddler because they're too icky for you vs. >>76748943 a vibrant and colourful meal with a good balance of macros, a variety of micros, and a lot more flavour. just lmao
>>76749022>vibrant and colourful mealimagine calling anyone else a toddler
>>76749031enjoy your carnivore diet pal, just make sure you dont give any money to a jooish doctor when you need to buy your weekly laxatives and go for your fourth haemorrhoid operation, or else you might be giving them the money they need to fund more agricultural industry research!!
>>76749043ive been on carnivore for 5 months and i've only felt great. I don't take any supplements besides creatine. My only issue is that good quality fish is expensive as fuck and I want to eat more.
>>76749043>muh fiber>muh constipationPlant fiber is 100% unnecessary, and it's even harmful.The reason you don't shit as often on carnivore is that your body isn't eating loads of useless, harmful and indigestible plant matter so you don't need to shit it out.The only reason most people feel that shitting daily is necessary is that it feels good. If you really crave anal stimulation this much, then you should just become gay.
>>76749081This is your brain on imageboards.
>>76749131Nah >>76749081 is right. Anyone that tried out keto / carnivore can tell you how shitting became so much better and easier. Also no bloating.
>>76749081Can vouch for this >>76749131 should just try to keto for like 3 fucking days and you'll see you literally don't need to shit daily. Its actually a cheat code and it checks out metabolically; it should work for literally everyone.
>>76748195Imagine being so assmad about people eating beef.>>76748179I've never gone full carnivore, but I feel very good on an animal foods + fruit + honey diet. I really don't think vegetables serve much purpose in the human diet, and grains/legumes are straight-up detrimental.
>>76748280Based>>76748284Cringe
>>76748825Everyone who tries different diets started off "eating normal" and was fatigued, overweight, had severe digestive issues, etc. Do you think people just randomly wake up one day and decide to fundamentally change how they live their lives? Retard.
>>76748813Kek, you could not possibly misunderstand evolution more. Stop embarassing yourself.
>>76748820>please eat as little meat as possible, that's a totally healthy and natural diet. I want lower beef prices.The problem with this logic is thst if most people trend towards veganism, they'll be more ok when the globalists try to ban meat outright. I'd rather spread the truth so more people will resist the bugs.
>>76748839You have to be a paid shill to be this wilfully ignorant. Hope you're at least getting compensated well for being this evil.
>>76748940Guess I'm the biggest pussy in the world then. I went years without eating any seeds and felt the best I have in my entire life.
>>76749602>The problem with this logic is thst if most people trend towards veganism, they'll be more ok when the globalists try to ban meat outright.We have to ban meat eating and if someone ignore the ban he should be killed, hanged, or converted to human meat and human soap.
>>76749791Low quality bait
>>76748179Raw "Carnivore" - on it now for the 6th year.I would not heat meat, eat it raw. I also eat yogurt(raw milk), unheated honey, etc.Bodies usually react well to the "diet" - it makes life beautiful but it's pricey.
>>76748280holy fuck you're stupid. An advertisers wet dream.
>>76749818How hard was it for you to switch to only raw meat?I've been eating some raw meat for years, but never fully committed to raw carnivore. Lots of junk food, coffee, etc.I eat raw meat for most of my meals, but it's like 40% of my diet.
>>76749847Or maybe his brain is capable of recognizing patterns.
