Did you all know that high protein unprocessed foods require more caloric demand to digest? Say a 200 calorie portion of steak you measure is digesting, well approximately 50 calories would be burned just digesting it compared to eating 200 calories of corn flakes or some shit. Also before you ask no caloric estimations of these high protein foods do not account for the calories burned in digestion. What are the implications?
>>76749248There are none. The "thermic effect of food" is part of your BMR. Consistently eat a balanced diet and it doesn't make a difference.And stop making this thread. SIAF.
>>76749265Yeah eat a consistently balanced diet and it doesn't make a difference but that doesn't mean it is an unchangeable aspect of your BMR. If you ate nothing but unprocessed lean meats all day, you'd be getting 20-30% less calories than you would record if you were tracking.
>>76749275BMR is part of the CO. Adjust CI to compensate. You're welcome.Stop making this thread.
You discovered TEF (Thermic effect of food) and it's pretty mild. Martin from leangains is big on it which is why he tells people to get 300g of protein when cutting. From what I remember, every additional gram of fat or carb swapped for protein is about 1 extra calorie burned via TEF. So swap 100g of carbs for 100g of protein and you burn an additional 100 calories. Not relevant for 99% of people and IMO doing something like 300g of protein per day to burn some additional calories is too restrictive in terms of food choices. Best diet is the one you can stick to.
>>76749248eat less, fat fuck
>>76749345>no way to reasonably know CI because food calories are a guess based on how much energy they release when set on fire>no way to reasonably know CO because the digestive system is impossibly complex to figure out with any accuracy>make the blatantly false assumption that mass and energy can be converted back and forthThere is no scientific basis for CICO beyond the trial and error required in restricting or supplementing a diet until the weight loss or gain desired is achieved. It's all guessing and won't be consistent from one person to the next. CICO is a midwit ideology
>>76750720Said the midwit.The "scientific basis" for CICO is CI < CO = weight loss. The mental gymnastics you're doing is no one's problem but your own.
>>76749248>protein has a lower CI/higher CO than carbs>WTF CICO ISN'T REALno it works you're just a midwitworrying about this kind of minutia is the hallmark of a midwit, complex systems are much easier to manage with critical thinking skills than simple memorization>>76750720and yet thousands of millions of people have lost weight by tracking their weight and eating less accordingly, strangeyou don't even need to know biochem to know CICO works>energy is stored in chemical bonds>energy can be used to do Work >Work can be performed to synthesize moleculesunless you want to deny that fire exists and that it can produce soot/ash (basic observations you can perform at home), CICO is real
