Are You a volume responder or an intensity responder?
If volume is all that matters, what is the difference between 5 sets of 10 and 10 sets of 5 reps.
>>76750176The weight, except you aren't doing 10 sets of 5 reps ever, DYELkun.
>VolumeHigh effort, every single rep is perfect, never get injured, intelligent, never have issues in life.>IntensityHey guys, this is my 3rd ragebait thread today, I got injured and no doctor wants to talk to me at this point because of my retardation, please please PLEASE diagnose what tendon I tore this time over internet.
>>76750225What if you use the same weight?
>>76750289Then I diagnose you with asthma.
>>76750289If you are going to near failure on your first set of 5 (which you should be, otherwise its junk volume) you will tend to fail before rep 5 some time after your 5th set.Maybe you can get to your 7th or even 8th set before failing on your 4th rep. I have never made it to 10 x 5. Supposedly the East Germans did 10x10 but they were also on commie state sponsored juice (which probably came from the nazis).Point being... idk 5x10 is probably not possible
>>76750394>failurememe buzzword
>>76750169Both.
>>76750498>buzzwordMeme buzzword
This is a bullshit dichotomy. You need intensity no matter what. Volume depends mainly on whether you're in a surplus trying to make gains or a cut trying to keep gains, or where you are in an actual periodization program.
>>76750498May as well be since 95% of people in the gym's definition of failure is when they have 5 reps in reserve.
>>76750169No such thing as either. You train to mechanical or muscular failure for the right amount of sets and then you grow. The guy who trains with high intensity will always grow more than the one who trains with low intensity. BTW, the proper definition intensity in exercise is intensity of effort. >>76750233>>Volume>High effortYou realize all the high volume guys are don't grow unless they roid right? And as far as effort is concerned. Sure it's psychologically hard to try to work non-stop for 8 hours. But the intensity of effort for that work is going to be low if you do it for that long. Likewise if you're doing 20 sets for a muscle group in a session, by necessity the intensity of effort must be much lower, especially on a set by set basis. If you're actually training with high effort sets, you're not going to do that many sets. Reach MMF on the 11th rep of the first set, you're not doing more than 8 reps on the second. Then on the third you're not doing more than 5-6 reps. Fewer on the next set to the point where doing more than 3-4 sets is not going to be worth your time. Whereas volume spammers are holding back the whole time. 8 RIR. So by time they're done they either get nowhere or juice up to let the drugs do all the work. Volume spamming was never high effort. It was just an exploit by roiders since they can let the drugs do the work for them. They just had to get the body to put more blood into the muscles they want to grow so that it gets exogenous test concentrated there. >never have issues in life.Somehow you can ignore people getting golfers elbow and other overuse injuries from spamming volume. And of course, we can't ignore how the high volume junkies known as crossfitters celebrate when they get hospitalized for rhabdo (overtraining to the point where the muscles can't stop breaking down). >what tendon I toreTendons are much stronger than muscles. It's usually a muscle that tears.
When you understand that volume is effort over time and not mechanical work it becomes obvious that one properly performed set involves a greater volume of exercise than most people's three to five sets. The difference between a properly performed HIT workout and most conventional normalfag workouts isn't the amount of exercise performed but how it is Divided and Distributed over time.
>>76750169Intensity, and I have insane stamina so I always accumulate more volume than most as well.
>>76750169All people respond the same
>>76750169You need intensity for long term gainsThat's why people always have to switch volume programs "It just isn't working anymore" = it's a shit program
>>76750713Thank god someone knows what they're talking about, well said.
>>76750713>>76752226Post body. You wont.
>>76750169exercise nonresponder
>>76750644Volume depends on intensity, and if you need more depends on intensity. If you progress on 3 sets there's no reason to add more.Where people spin their wheels is they think they don't have to progress their lifts over time in intensity
>>76752275Agreed, it's ultimately about progressive overload as a way to make sure you're getting enough stimulus. It just bugs me when people think there's a magical set and rep range. Almost anything will work with proper intensity.
