Is peating and bodybuilding a doable match? Can you still build muscle on a mostly gelatine protein Peating diet while limiting red meat?
>>76751399Peat didn't advocate for a diet.there's no reason you can't sprinkle gelatin on your ground beef if you want.
>>76751399Bulking yes. Cutting no. Peating isnt designed to put anyone in a catabolic state.>mostly gelatin dietNot peating. Gelatin isnt a complete protein. Only reason to add gelatin to the diet is to balance out the methionine in muscle meats.>limiting red meatCertainly not peating. Red meat and especially ruminant meat is the highest quality meat you can get.I've posted this before but among the things that peating does for lifting are>higher tissue co2 helps recovery and buffers lactic acid>adequate sugar keeps body from cannibalizing muscle mass for gluconeogenesis for no reason>low cortisol sleep -> more and deeper sleep -> boosts recovery>prioritizing milk and eggs over muscle meat gives more complete amino acid profiles; protein is more bioavailable per gram
>>76751403>>76751450Thanks I appreciate it I'm still fairly new to peating but I find it very interesting and it made my sleep better.
>>76751399Nobody who shills this guy has ever posted body. That's all you need to know.
>>76751995He looks like this.
>>76752223>Doesnt post his own bodyThanks for proving my point.
>>76752243I'm not posting too many fruitcakes here, you post yours tho
>>76751399I've heard people reference Stan Efferding's Vertical Diet as "peating for bodybuilders", and it seems like it's just about as close as most would get. I liked it when I tried it. Might have to grab the newest version, now that I think about it... I'm sure he's updated things since then.
>>76752985I'll look into it, thanks
>>76752712Concession accepted
>>76751399Ive still got no idea what peating is, apart from eat more carrots
>>76754973https://wiki.chadnet.org/introduction-to-ray-peat.mp4tl;dr>low metabolism bad>high metabolism good>genetics is cope, everyone can improve metabolism if they want to>lower metabolism with age is not an inevitability>if your body isn't getting readily available energy from your diet (cellular respiration) it will get it from your muscles - over long enough time your body defaults to "stress metabolism">the two different states the body can be in are healthy metabolism and stress metabolism>or, put another way, active thyroid use vs active adrenal use>or, healthy parasympathetic nervous system activation vs chronic sympathetic nervous system activation>or, high dopamine, T3, testosterone profile vs high estrogen, cortisol, serotonin profile>due to interconnectivity of endocrine and nervous systems, things get better as they get better and they get worse as they get worse>example: stunted thyroid -> insulin resistance -> sugar processed in liver instead of blood -> higher visceral fat -> stunted thyroid -> insulin resistance, etc etc>entire point of peating is to either boost cellular respiration or decrease stress>decreasing stress boosts cellular respiration and boosting cellular respiration decreases stress
>>76754967Be sure to tell ur mom
>>76755146Sorry you're so upset
>>76755284Don't tell me what I feel, you are wrong. Now drink your OJ
all i know about this nigga was that he wants you to drink OJ and take aspirin and that he died. what is his pill?
>>76755776>>76755284
>>76755797ok ignore this post i understand the gist but why listen to ray peat? what is his credibility beyond being a phd?
>>76755811The point is that 99 percent of doctors dieticians etc aren't multidisciplinary and have no framework for how multiple bodily systems interact and frankly don't even care to have one since their job is treating symptoms as they arrive.For instance>thiamine (B1) deficiency leads to increased serotonin>serotonin decreases brain ATP, acting like a stress hormoneBoth statements are true and have been proven for a long time but there are virtually zero practical frameworks that actually tell you what to do with that information.>why listenYou can literally just try it out and see if it does anything.I only tried it out to treat insulin resistance and in less than a year of minor dietary changes it's vanished on top of a dexascan that says my visceral fat within the normal range for the first time in years.
>>76756006>visceral fat within the normal range for the first time in yearscan I ask what were you doing with your diet and training before you started peating? biggest thing that I get hung up on about peat is his stance against efas
>>76755811He was right about seed oils before it became a thing
