It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when.
>>76754097Then we will deadlift with the pain when it comes
>>76754097And you know this how?
>>76754097>The unstoppable force of herniated disc when facing the unmovable will of core isometrics.
literally happed last week to me. Only a slight herniation though. Every time I bend over my left heel goes numb.
>>76754469Huh, sure you don't have sciatica?
Without risk there is no glory. Herniated my c6/7 rack pulling 700 lbs. Hurt it on the first rep but banged out a triple. Set me back about a year or so but good to go now.
>>76754097How do i know if my disc is heniated if i suffer from lower back pain?
>>76754630you get a MRi examination
>>76754097You absolutely MUST do deadhangs, it's non negotiable
>>76754630MRI will show you. Also, if its on a nerve you'll know. Just start incorporating reverse hypers into your workouts and that should fix you right up (if no herniated disc).
Don't deadlift, don't barbell squat, don't OHP while standing (do them seated instead). Use isolation machines for legs, do hyperextensions for erectorsProblem solved.
>>76754097>does the reddit lift>gets the reddit backims
>>76754674Bitch ass nigger with no performance based goals.Do your compounds. Do them properly. Recover thoroughly. Don't overeagerly overload. Delpad often.
>>76754634ho much do mris cost?
>>76754097I don't bench or deadlift0 injuries over 16 years
>>76754740Free in developed countries
>>76754756smart
>>76754674Isn't seated OHP even worse than standing? All the weight goes straight to your lower back and tailbone
>>76754780but i don't have a tail?
>>76754097That is why you strengthen the back with deadliftsIgnoring your back muscles will lead to pain because anyone over the age of 30 has degenerated discs to some degree due to wear and tear
>>76754674Have fun building no muscle
>>76754763In burgerland?
>>76754722>>76754955There are upper body compounds that don't compromise your lower back, retards. >noooo you need to squat like a fag to get bigNo. I don't want T-Rex mode, fuck off.
>>76754780No, it takes load off your back because you don't have to stabilize, assuming you're seated with a backrest. Try it, seated DB OHP is incredible for your shouldersIf you want to be even safer just do it with less weight, more reps.
>>76754674The responses to this post are a nice illustration of OP's point.
>>76754634How much is MRI?
>>76754634It's bullshit because they could MRI someone with no pain and find disc abberations.
Shit like this is why, at the age of 31, I really want to move past lifting. I just don't knoe/am afraid to move on. Because it'll feel like abandoning something I've been working on for 13 years straight. I mean, what are the best alternatives to keep good aesthetic and also feel good internally? Bodyweight? Lower volume higher rep? I'm not looking to just bodybuild.
>>76755190How is that bullshit? If you're not getting a nerve pressed and you work in an office or some bullshit lackey job you will probably never feel it but it is possible to still have herniations and disc damage
>>76755213Incorporate more calisthenics and work accessories more. Do supportive lifts and exercises. They might even help you with your main lifts. There's really no reason to lift 2000 lbs unless you're competing. Just work on you and stop chasing numbers that'll eventually hurt you
>>76754780It would on a flat bench but when people talk about seated OHP they are talking about a fold able bench you use with a backrest
>>76755213What is your weight and your deadlift? I think that unless you're pulling 2.5-3x bodyweight, then you're fine and too weak to worry about injury.
>>76754097>>76754674It's always crazy to me that people say avoid deadlifts and back squats to avoid injury when they are the two exercise every physical therapist recommends for the elderly to prevent injury.Yeah, if you do them incorrectly at a weight that's too much for you, you'll get injured. That's true for every single exercise period. But it's easy to cheat on deadlifts and back squats with poor form and using a weight that's too much them which leads to injury, not the exercises themselves. But when done correctly at a proper weight they are the best exercises for preventing injury.
>>76754674>don't ever use your body lest it fall aparthow about you just feed yourself properly?
>>76754630Sit on a chair with your back straight and pull yourself down with your arms, the do the same with a curved back.If it hurts when your back is straight this means its a pinched nerve or a compressed disc, if it hurts when you curve your back this means is a bulging disc because the compression is only in one side.You might find that you have pain in both.If the former then core exercises in general will help because your spine is compressed because of the lack of core stability.If the latter ,core exercises focused in your lower back and spinal erectors will help a lot, this is because the discs are compressed on one side.
>>76754674>You got a leak at home, ignore it>Your stove is leaking gas, ignore it>Your car is making funny noises, ignore it>A hood nigga is robbing you at gun point, ignore itThis is your logic.
this hurts like hell and never fixes no matter how much you do, man i miss doing snatch and OHP so much, but each time it ends hurting for days.I have to do calisthenics to stretch my back every week now, for 2 years, is not that bad but PLEASE PLEASE TAKE CARE OF YOUR BACK
>>76754674based, do lifts that actually build your back
>>76755986>>76755863No, my logic is to build your back with exercises that don't axially load your spine, that is, non injurious exercises, but I'm arguing with cultists here.My goal is that new anons read this so they don't ack themselves.
>>76756332>Just avoid the issue and never address it bro its the exercise fault You're retarded, post body.
It's not even a matter of when. You more than likely already have bulging or herniated discs. It's just a matter of whether or not they will press on a nerve.
>>76755863Retard take. There is not a single PT on earth recommending barbell squats or deadlifts, regardless of weight because it is a sack of fluid. You can't train the sack to make it stronger.Further, the entire goal of lifting is to increase the weight. Unless you're a dyel (you) you will load more than spine is designed to handle.
>>76756845>Yes, physical therapists often recommend back squats and deadlifts to the elderly to prevent injury, but only after a thorough assessment and with a focus on proper form to ensure safety. These exercises build the necessary strength, balance, and bone density to reduce fall risk and improve functional independence, which are crucial for aging well>Address fears: There is a common misconception that these exercises are dangerous for older adults, but studies show the risk of functional decline from not exercising is often greater than the risk of injury from performing these movements correctly.>https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11587132/>https://refineptp.com/older-adults-do-you-even-lift/>https://www.claremotionpt.com/2025/05/30/squatting-for-all-a-physical-therapists-guide-to-incorporating-the-squat-in-your-routine-part-1-2/#:~:text=Squats%20for%20Lifelong%20Strength%20and%20Independence%20Incorporating,your%20strength%2C%20mobility%2C%20and%20quality%20of%20life.>https://spineandpainla.com/benefits-and-risks-of-back-squats-for-spine-health/
This happened to me when I jumped off a stool down to the ground with my knees nearly locked out, I don't know why I did it, but I fully recovered now and never had it since, I started lifting with empty barbell which would make /fit/ shit itselves, but now I deadlift 4pl8 and my back hasn't hurt once in past 15 years, cya l8r DYEL scum.
god you guys are pathetici don't understand how you can look in the mirror and not feel immense shame
>>76754636>deadhangsuseless non-exercise, just do scapular pull-ups, hammer curls with weight you can, and wrist flexions and extensions with about 1-5kg dumbbells, do some YWTL and face pulls and make sure your form is ideal, progress into pull-ups, problem solved.If you do other lifts properly, your forearms can already hang onto a bar longer than you can do proper, slow pull-ups for reps, you don't weigh 666lbs, do you?
>>76754674>Only move in a wheelchair so that your knees don't hurtBitchmade
>>76755213Maybe just stop overloading. Stick to a weight you can handle comfortably to maintain your strength level, and work on other stuff. Maybe do more calisthenics, or get really into mobility work, or cardio, or pick up a sport you enjoy.You don't have to continuously push yourself harder and further, it's fine if you've reached your goals and want to do something else now
why do DYELs, especially on this board, have mind-body dualism so severe?
>>76758219we arent talking about grip strength
>>76758459Dead hangs are grip strength training for DYELs.
>>76758464What did I just fucking say
>>76758496That you don't know anything about how human body works, you stupid DYEL.Do pull-ups for reps and your spine will get decompressed enough without hanging pointlessly like a DYEL monkey that you are.
>>76758509no lol
>>76754331>Why is there smoke coming out of your oven, Seymore?
